Corona Virus

[HBMC]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

The comments should be read as well. The people commenting debunked his ideas.

They're pointing to his claim about the Diamond Princess being his model, at the time of the article's publication, that was about as reliable a test case that he had. Obviously he'd probably agree that his assumptions weren't perfect, but to act as if he was simply "debunked" on the main thrust of his claim is not true. If the Imperial College model is what spurred on our respective Government's decisions to shut down the world, then we have a much larger problem than a novel virus (utterly incompetent leadership who can be swayed far too easily by a projection and not hard data).

The other aspects about his article were far more important than simple infection rates, like Covid-19 being a catalyst for an underlying issue actually ending someone's life or pushing someone who was already vulnerable over the edge into needing lifesaving treatment. That, to me, was far more pertinent when combined with Italy's numbers regarding people passing away with pre-existing issues that contributed to their passing or hospitalization.

Judging by localized numbers we are seeing now (and the number of elderly/exposed) who are needing treatment, the wave of horribly sick isn't happening. The lag in data will always be present when dealing with something unknown until the testing is made more readily available. What is the actual pool of people who are positive for the virus but are asymptomatic? My 83 year old Grandma had a bad respiratory issue a few weeks ago and she has a constant nagging cough over the last several years, was that Covid induced? I don't know, she wasn't tested and she bounced back after quick scrip (not sure what she took).

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

What exactly is known about corona and how to treat it?

Is it SARS 2 more or less, but less lethal and it wasn't contained like the first SARS was.

Corona and the flu are not similar scenarios despite how badly some individuals want to correlate them based on early death statistics.

In terms of actual deaths, the flu is still far more dangerous, it is just more well known.

I think we made a grave error in the US and quarantined the healthy after the virus already got here, so now those who might have been vulnerable are subjected to increased risk of getting infected by those who do not know they have the virus.

Originally Posted by mc1

Yeah, lets keep concentrating on just the deaths. Instead of maybe the 5-10 or 15 percent that could require intensive care. Lets not worry about the possible effects on the health care systems around the country. Lets not worry about the people on the frontlines, the health care workers.

Keep pointing at the rising deaths!

Its only 41!
Its only 50!
Its only 100!
Its only 200!

Look at the dead, its not that bad!

I know it is morbid, but this is a means to measure the actual danger of said virus.

This virus is showing the frailty of western medicine in terms of dealing with quantities, but it is skewing HARD against people who have other issues that are compounded by covid (either way they need a bed, but it shouldn't be a surprise). An aggressive attack to your lungs when you already had walking pneumonia (which is very common for people who are overweight, sedentary, etc) is not exactly an unexpected cause for hospitalization.

Italy's population of smokers are not helping the numbers at all. Spain's population smokes at a similar clip to Italy's too. Do not be surprised if those who do die in Spain had pulmonary/respiratory issues due to smoking.

Originally Posted by zonacats8

the President acts like a petulant child who just had his favorite pacifier taken away from him.

Have you been paying attention to him at all in his life? This is who he is, perpetually 13.

Just stop already.

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by HBMC

Is it SARS 2 more or less, but less lethal and it wasn't contained like the first SARS was.

Was just reading that the biggest difference between SARS and Corona is that SARS wasn't contagious prior to showing symptoms like with Corona, and that's why it's spreading so quickly/easily.

[Ferg1945]

What are we doing wrong? North Korea has conquered the disease as of 4 days ago. We should text him to see how he did it.

[teosdesserts]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

What are we doing wrong? North Korea has conquered the disease as of 4 days ago. We should text him to see how he did it.

They found a vaccine, called a bullet to the head.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

I posted this in the other thread but it is also appropriate here:

Intel reports going back to January warned of coronavirus threat
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...navirus-threat

Not sure if this is photoshopped or not, but didn't Kobe Bryant die in January?
Note the article on the left.

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[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Not sure if this is photoshopped or not, but didn't Kobe Bryant die in January?
Note the article on the left.

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Not photoshopped. Andrew Yang tweeted "This coronavirus is very serious" the previous day. People were aware, not everyone took it seriously though.

https://twitter.com/andrewyang/statu...303809?lang=en

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Not sure if this is photoshopped or not, but didn't Kobe Bryant die in January?
Note the article on the left.

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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/co...s-cure-bryant/

That issue is not Photoshopped.

[patchgenie]

it would be nice if small businesses could get some support instead of casinos and cruise ships or airlines that spent it all on stock buybacks.

[Astros19]

Interesting
Thank you. You seriously can't trust anything anymore.

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[NeedChapmans]

My position is summed up extremely well here:

https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine...9-1b767def5894

Long read, but updated to reflect the current situation.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by patchgenie

it would be nice if small businesses could get some support instead of casinos and cruise ships or airlines that spent it all on stock buybacks.

Yes, there is no reason to be giving billionaires money when there are thousands and thousands of small businesses that are cratering on going out of business the longer they are shut down/limited in ability to be open.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Yes, there is no reason to be giving billionaires money when there are thousands and thousands of small businesses that are cratering on going out of business the longer they are shut down/limited in ability to be open.

Agreed. I think people are going to have to consider for how much longer they are going to tolerate this situation. It's not good.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Yes, there is no reason to be giving billionaires money when there are thousands and thousands of small businesses that are cratering on going out of business the longer they are shut down/limited in ability to be open.

I had to google it.
There's 540 billionaires in the United States.
18.6 million millionaires. That number surprised me.

Edit
Seeing conflicting numbers. Another site said 11.2 million millionaires. It also pointed out that's more people than the entire population of Greece. That's crazy.

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[mc1]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Not photoshopped. Andrew Yang tweeted "This coronavirus is very serious" the previous day. People were aware, not everyone took it seriously though.

https://twitter.com/andrewyang/statu...303809?lang=en

https://twitter.com/IVerboten/status...105810433?s=20

Its just the flu!!

[stanmarsh]

Florida is thinking of following NY and CA orders.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by stanmarsh

Florida is thinking of following NY and CA orders.

Stay strong Ron. Don't do it ... (Nikki Fried is LOL)

[xbignick]

Ignore the hashtags. I'm thinking we see a lot more of this in the coming weeks, maybe Sephora was right.

https://www.twitter.com/CalderonCesa...67534830063622

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by xbignick

Ignore the hashtags. I'm thinking we see a lot more of this in the coming weeks, maybe Sephora was right.

https://www.twitter.com/CalderonCesa...67534830063622

Prop47 seems to be working as planned right?

Plus they know they aren’t arresting anyone right now for low end crimes.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

My position is summed up extremely well here:

https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine...9-1b767def5894

Long read, but updated to reflect the current situation.

I enjoy reading your posts because there is thought behind them, generally speaking. In this case, this post is garbage.

The author is a nobody. This is his bio, source below. He is not a doctor, scientist, or researcher. He is, though, a Republican Operative and an “influencer in politics”. Doesn’t seem kosher. You’re so much better than this.

Aaron Ginn is the co-founder of the Lincoln Network (www.joinlincoln.org), which is the largest community of liberty-oriented technologists in the world. Aaron was named toForbes 30 under 30 for Politics and awarded the Top Ten Influencers in Politics by WIRED. His background is at the intersection of politics and technology. He is one of the early thought leaders behind the growth hacking movement and worked on growth at StumbleUpon, Everlane, and Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign.

https://libertarianchristians.com/lci_staff/aaron-ginn/

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

I enjoy reading your posts because there is thought behind them, generally speaking. In this case, this post is garbage.

The author is a nobody. This is his bio, source below. He is not a doctor, scientist, or researcher. He is though a Republican Operative and an “influencer in politics”. Doesn’t seem kosher. You’re so much better than this.

Aaron Ginn is the co-founder of the Lincoln Network (www.joinlincoln.org), which is the largest community of liberty-oriented technologists in the world. Aaron was named toForbes 30 under 30 for Politics and awarded the Top Ten Influencers in Politics by WIRED. His background is at the intersection of politics and technology. He is one of the early thought leaders behind the growth hacking movement and worked on growth at StumbleUpon, Everlane, and Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign.

https://libertarianchristians.com/lci_staff/aaron-ginn/

This made me laugh. "What a terrible idea! Did you see who wrote it?!"

One day, you're going to realize that it's the words spoken, not who speaks them that matters. Sadly, that day is not today.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

I enjoy reading your posts because there is thought behind them, generally speaking. In this case, this post is garbage.

The author is a nobody. This is his bio, source below. He is not a doctor, scientist, or researcher. He is, though, a Republican Operative and an “influencer in politics”. Doesn’t seem kosher. You’re so much better than this.

Aaron Ginn is the co-founder of the Lincoln Network (www.joinlincoln.org), which is the largest community of liberty-oriented technologists in the world. Aaron was named toForbes 30 under 30 for Politics and awarded the Top Ten Influencers in Politics by WIRED. His background is at the intersection of politics and technology. He is one of the early thought leaders behind the growth hacking movement and worked on growth at StumbleUpon, Everlane, and Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign.

https://libertarianchristians.com/lci_staff/aaron-ginn/

So is CNN, MSNBC, Fox News yet a majority of us are using that to come to conclusions on what is going on.

[Timmay]

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[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

My position is summed up extremely well here:

https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine...9-1b767def5894

Long read, but updated to reflect the current situation.

Originally Posted by Timmay

Long but good read.
https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine...9-1b767def5894

Comon Timmay!

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

This made me laugh. "What a terrible idea! Did you see who wrote it?!"

One day, you're going to realize that it's the words spoken, not who speaks them that matters. Sadly, that day is not today.

You’ve never met my mother-in-law. If you read something uncredited to her that she wrote and you believed it, lord have mercy on your soul.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

You’ve never met my mother-in-law. If you read something uncredited to her that she wrote and you believed it, lord have mercy on your soul.

My father in-law is convinced he created a drug that can put you to sleep for one year, then you wake up exactly 366 days later. But the government wouldn't let him produce it.

Sounds like a match to me.