Michael Jordan RC, PSA 10, shatters 100k !!! - Page 182

jmarascojr · 07-29-2023, 09:59 AM

I didn't see it, but I believe there was a display at The National with 30 (?) Jordan Rookies, wonder if any of those would cross...

And wasn't Probstein looking for a Black Label BGS 10? Not just a BGS 10?

towerymt · 07-29-2023, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jmarascojr

I didn't see it, but I believe there was a display at The National with 30 (?) Jordan Rookies, wonder if any of those would cross...

And wasn't Probstein looking for a Black Label BGS 10? Not just a BGS 10?

You gotta get on that Probstein mailing list...those 30 are his, and none crossed to BGS 10. Said he turned down 6mil, too, which seems crazy. Sell those duds and buy that elusive BGS 10

auburn35 · 07-29-2023, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by towerymt

You gotta get on that Probstein mailing list...those 30 are his, and none crossed to BGS 10. Said he turned down 6mil, too, which seems crazy. Sell those duds and buy that elusive BGS 10

Looking only at the certifications with recorded sales through PSA's APR, Rick's average purchase was around $291,000.
8.7~ million cost, if that average carries throughout the 30.
I noticed at least three copies are currently deactivated.

dunkindutchmen · 07-29-2023, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

No you don't, you just have to evaluate and send in the right cards. I've successfully crossed over 18 BGS 9.5s or SGC 10s to PSA 10 without cracking.

so you're 18 for 200 then, right?

clocsta2323 · 07-29-2023, 02:45 PM

The easiest way to separate the biggest sucker against the more mild suckers is if they buy BGS 10s or black labels

messier2 · 07-29-2023, 03:00 PM

Anyone notice the prices for the 7,8, and 8.5 at the National. They were all very competitive

7= $7,000ish
8= $8,500ish
8.5= $10,000ish

Are these considered high, low, etc.?

discodanman45 · 07-29-2023, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by messier2

Anyone notice the prices for the 7,8, and 8.5 at the National. They were all very competitive

7= $7,000ish
8= $8,500ish
8.5= $10,000ish

Are these considered high, low, etc.?

7's are right around $5000
8's are around $7500
8.5 might be a good comp, not sold much.

messier2 · 07-29-2023, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by discodanman45

7's are right around $5000
8's are around $7500
8.5 might be a good comp, not sold much.

Are these National prices? I had planned to look but forgot and focused on other cards instead.

discodanman45 · 07-29-2023, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by messier2

Are these National prices? I had planned to look but forgot and focused on other cards instead.

These are recent eBay comps.

messier2 · 07-29-2023, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by discodanman45

These are recent eBay comps.

Ah, cool!

Cardsandcoffee · 07-29-2023, 04:25 PM

Imo there’s some strong variance even within the same grade, depending on the centering. Well centered copies sell for a premium

Spacemanspif · 07-29-2023, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dunkindutchmen

so you're 18 for 200 then, right?

18 for 31 (58%), should be even better but against my better judgment I sent a couple with 9 subs which were some of the failed crossovers

boxbuster7 · 07-31-2023, 02:11 PM

Anybody know what the deal is with the 1985 Prism/Jewel Stickers? What company manufactured them or how people were able to get them? Just curious. thanks!

jetta20162 · 07-31-2023, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by boxbuster7

Anybody know what the deal is with the 1985 Prism/Jewel Stickers? What company manufactured them or how people were able to get them? Just curious. thanks!

Didn't they come from candy vending machines?

auburn35 · 12-08-2023, 01:46 AM

Nat Turner shared some interesting 2023 grading stats on the Jordan Fleer today.

Twitter thread, if you would like to view source.
https://twitter.com/natsturner/statu...KEgaqmMKw&s=19

Of the 2,051 copies PSA has received this year, 21% (447) were determined to be fake/counterfeit.

Would be curious to know how many of the 1604 authenticated copies were legit 1st submissions, vs re-submit.

Regarding new PSA 10's, Nat didn’t provide a total and deactivations/reactivation will impact the population, but Gemrate shows the population has grown by 3 over the year.

sourcehill · 12-08-2023, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by auburn35

Nat Turner shared some interesting 2023 grading stats on the Jordan Fleer today.

Twitter thread, if you would like to view source.
https://twitter.com/natsturner/statu...KEgaqmMKw&s=19

Of the 2,051 copies PSA has received this year, 21% (447) were determined to be fake/counterfeit.

Would be curious to know how many of the 1604 authenticated copies were legit 1st submissions, vs re-submit.

Regarding new PSA 10's, Nat didn’t provide a total and deactivations/reactivation will impact the population, but Gemrate shows the population has grown by 3 over the year.

With the incompetence of PSA, it makes you wonder how many of those slabbed were fakes. What a joke.

KhalDrogo · 12-08-2023, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sourcehill

With the incompetence of PSA, it makes you wonder how many of those slabbed were fakes. What a joke.

How many fake 86f MJs have you seen in PSA slabs this year?

JWBlue · 03-07-2024, 09:31 AM

What is a good price for a PSA 6?

towerymt · 03-07-2024, 10:49 AM

https://www.ebay.com/sh/research?mar...S&tabName=SOLD

https://mavin.io/

https://130point.com/sales/

MJGOAT23 · 03-07-2024, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBlue

What is a good price for a PSA 6?

good rule of thumb for awhile for grades 1-8 was 1K per number grade but they've come down. $4500~ for 6 w/ good centering

towerymt · 03-07-2024, 01:44 PM

1986 fleer jordan -sticker "psa 6"
Format: auction
Price: 1500-7000

GOATcards · 03-07-2024, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by towerymt

1986 fleer jordan -sticker "psa 6"
Format: auction
Price: 1500-7000
chart

chart at the bottom of this page shows a brief peak over $10K and they've settled at around the $3500 mark

so at about 1/3 of its brief early '21 pandemic peak, while the 9s and 10s are down to about, what, 1/5 of their peaks

drobfan8 · 03-07-2024, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MJGOAT23

good rule of thumb for awhile for grades 1-8 was 1K per number grade but they've come down. $4500~ for 6 w/ good centering

There is no way I would pay that much for a 6.

These have room to either go down, or stay stagnant for a long while.

Be patient

hermanotarjeta · 05-07-2024, 08:09 AM

Interesting to read that Probatein was propping up the psa 10 Jordan rookie market by purchasing every copy that fell down to $140,000.

Value manipulation at its finest.

Hellcat · 05-07-2024, 01:52 PM

Jordan's only rookie the Star 101 will continue to funnel more money too it thus the 3rd year Fleer will continue to get liquidated more and more! Sell if have copies you don't want to be holidng the bag when the bottom falls out.

07-29-2023, 09:59 AM	#4526
jmarascojr Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 4,341 shooterjoe13	I didn't see it, but I believe there was a display at The National with 30 (?) Jordan Rookies, wonder if any of those would cross... And wasn't Probstein looking for a Black Label BGS 10? Not just a BGS 10? __________________ Always looking to trade, https://flic.kr/s/aHsmVYMy7F I PC Luke Harper/Brodie Lee

07-31-2023, 02:11 PM	#4538
boxbuster7 Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 12,039 boxbuster777	Anybody know what the deal is with the 1985 Prism/Jewel Stickers? What company manufactured them or how people were able to get them? Just curious. thanks! __________________ Psa 9 > psa 10

12-08-2023, 01:46 AM	#4540
auburn35 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,305	Nat Turner shared some interesting 2023 grading stats on the Jordan Fleer today. Twitter thread, if you would like to view source. https://twitter.com/natsturner/statu...KEgaqmMKw&s=19 Of the 2,051 copies PSA has received this year, 21% (447) were determined to be fake/counterfeit. Would be curious to know how many of the 1604 authenticated copies were legit 1st submissions, vs re-submit. Regarding new PSA 10's, Nat didn’t provide a total and deactivations/reactivation will impact the population, but Gemrate shows the population has grown by 3 over the year. __________________ Ashley Lelie Rookie Collector, always looking for more.

03-07-2024, 01:44 PM	#4546
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,664	1986 fleer jordan -sticker "psa 6" Format: auction Price: 1500-7000 Last edited by towerymt; 08-27-2024 at 10:31 AM.

07-29-2023, 02:45 PM	#4530
clocsta2323 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: D.C. Posts: 6,841	The easiest way to separate the biggest sucker against the more mild suckers is if they buy BGS 10s or black labels

07-29-2023, 03:00 PM	#4531
messier2 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 15,258	Anyone notice the prices for the 7,8, and 8.5 at the National. They were all very competitive 7= $7,000ish 8= $8,500ish 8.5= $10,000ish Are these considered high, low, etc.?

07-29-2023, 04:25 PM	#4536
Cardsandcoffee Member Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: PNW Posts: 1,062	Imo there’s some strong variance even within the same grade, depending on the centering. Well centered copies sell for a premium

03-07-2024, 09:31 AM	#4543
JWBlue Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,373	What is a good price for a PSA 6?

03-07-2024, 10:49 AM	#4544
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,664	https://www.ebay.com/sh/research?mar...S&tabName=SOLD https://mavin.io/ https://130point.com/sales/

05-07-2024, 08:09 AM	#4549
hermanotarjeta Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 20,653	Interesting to read that Probatein was propping up the psa 10 Jordan rookie market by purchasing every copy that fell down to $140,000. Value manipulation at its finest.

05-07-2024, 01:52 PM	#4550
Hellcat Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 2,312	Jordan's only rookie the Star 101 will continue to funnel more money too it thus the 3rd year Fleer will continue to get liquidated more and more! Sell if have copies you don't want to be holidng the bag when the bottom falls out.