Corona Virus

[fulltritty]

Saw an interview with Tim Cook, CEO of Apple this morning. Unlike the media and certain politicians, he is not panicking over corona. Most of Apple's stuff is in China and he stated the factories are already beginning to ramp back up and should be at full production soon. Apple also has a 20% market share in China for selling products. According to him, it was just a small blip and most of their production will be back on track in a few weeks.

[smanzari]

Anyone else prepping for potential of a quarantine? Or am I just being crazy like those Doomsdayers?

[caflisch78]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

Saw an interview with Tim Cook, CEO of Apple this morning. Unlike the media and certain politicians, he is not panicking over corona. Most of Apple's stuff is in China and he stated the factories are already beginning to ramp back up and should be at full production soon. Apple also has a 20% market share in China for selling products. According to him, it was just a small blip and most of their production will be back on track in a few weeks.

Apple obtains parts from several other manufacturers who's supply chains may be impacted because they are housed in China or other affected areas where they are forced to close factories, etc. It's bound to have a downhill affect on retailers which is why you are seeing the large sell off. Economy will be directly affected.

My biggest question/concern is when APPL/MSFT/insert name here report Q1 2020 earnings, are we going to see another drastic drop if the misses are large? Or is all that going to be baked in by the time this is over?

[allabtsprt]

Originally Posted by mikecamp99

I was just about to post something similar to this. I heard some numbers yesterday that the Swine Flu affected 1 Billion people worldwide back in 2009 and hundreds of thousands died in the first 12 months. Those numbers blow the Coronavirus numbers out of the water right now. I get the concern is it spreading when there isn't knowledge yet of curing people, but this thing has been massively blown up the last few weeks specifically, yet the Swine Flu was worse and I don't remember it nearly causing this much tension and chaos.

Maybe because the snowflakes have quadrupled since then?

[smanzari]

Originally Posted by mikecamp99

I was just about to post something similar to this. I heard some numbers yesterday that the Swine Flu affected 1 Billion people worldwide back in 2009 and hundreds of thousands died in the first 12 months. Those numbers blow the Coronavirus numbers out of the water right now. I get the concern is it spreading when there isn't knowledge yet of curing people, but this thing has been massively blown up the last few weeks specifically, yet the Swine Flu was worse and I don't remember it nearly causing this much tension and chaos.

Swine Flu was really bad when it started but mutated to something mild rather quickly. We also knew how to treat and test for it, as it was an influenza. This one seems to have kept its vigor (or has until this point), seems to be tough to treat, the US still can't effectively test for, and infections comes in waves (with the first seeming to be the most mild). Its also insanely hard to compare virus outbreaks when one is in progress....

[kerg]

Originally Posted by smanzari

Anyone else prepping for potential of a quarantine? Or am I just being crazy like those Doomsdayers?

We were due to buy more staples of things we use anyways so, bought a little extra and we refreshed our usual over the counters meds on hand. (Example instead of our usual 25lbs of rice, picked up 50lbs).

Not because of some great fear of a quarantine, but rather that I assume as soon as a case is declared locally, there probably will be a buying panic.

[IronMonkey415]

That book from Dean Koontz mentions something like this would happen.
I'm in line to get the book here at Barnes and Noble.

[mikecamp99]

Originally Posted by smanzari

Swine Flu was really bad when it started but mutated to something mild rather quickly. We also knew how to treat and test for it, as it was an influenza. This one seems to have kept its vigor (or has until this point), seems to be tough to treat, the US still can't effectively test for, and infections comes in waves (with the first seeming to be the most mild). Its also insanely hard to compare virus outbreaks when one is in progress....

Did it really become mild rather quickly? From what I’ve read it started in April and really didn’t start to die down until November. From what I remember the first 6 months was absolutely awful as far as people getting sick and even dying with an estimated billion infected and possibly 500k dying from it.

Since the end of December about 83,000 people have come down with the Coronavirus with only about 2800 deaths, majority in China (obviously those numbers could be skewed depending how much China is sharing.) Its only been two months so the numbers can still go up like the Swine Flu, and there is no cure or understanding yet to contain it so the CDC and WHO are taking every precaution, but the media and governments are acting like everyone’s about to get it when in reality a very small percentage is contracting it right now.

[Soxfanguy]

This has gotten so out of hand

I know people who need the N95 masks for sanding but they can’t get them because people going crazy

[Soxfanguy]

Costco in Hawaii had to limit people to 5 things of toilet paper and paper towels because people buying so much


https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ed/4903322002/

[NeedChapmans]

Thought I would post in here ... I've been hit by the panic.

My brother in law; 41; PhD dropped his car off at our house and I drove him to the airport (JFK) two weeks ago to visit my in-laws in Israel. Smart guy and for context, a glass half empty kind of thinker.

Anyway, not one hour ago (around 6am IST), I got a phone call from him in which he opened with telling me that he's not crazy, he needs me to listen and that he's made the decision not to come back to the United States. He has a cough, and to protect my family, he shouldn't come back. He thinks he has the virus, he thinks the numbers are grossly under-reported and for a variety of reasons, he believes that this is going to be on a scale that the world has never seen.

His words 45 seconds into the call "I've made the decision not to come back to the United States"

He then went on to tell me about all the Asian people on his connecting flight from Poland, how they likely escaped China the only way they could to get to Israel; how he landed the same day the Israeli's from the Diamond Princess cruise ship passengers landed in Israel and they could have gotten him infected ... etc. He then instructed me to begin the process of isolation with my family, stay vigilant and clean out supply stores ASAP before it's too late.

I was listening to Pappa Don't Preach; knocking out some work and now all of a sudden, I'm kinda shook. Not because of anything coronavirus related but because this crazy guy is eventually gonna come back and I have to have him around my kids.

I've never spoken to anyone who was as convinced in anything as he was that this is gonna break out and slaughter the population. Left here 12 days ago a normal guy.

He also insisted I not talk to his parents because they're not listening and they're worried he's just spreading panic.

Madness. 45 minutes of my life that I just don't know what to do with.

[Soxfanguy]

According to WHO, based on analysis of 44,000 cases of COVID-19 in Hubei province, around 80% of people have a mild form of the disease, 14% developed more severe disease such as pneumonia, 5% have critical disease, and 2% of cases are fatal.[73]

Among those who died, many had preexisting conditions, including hypertension, diabetes, or cardiovascular disease,[74] and the median time from initial symptoms to death was 14 days (range 6–41 days).[75] Males had a death rate of 2.8% while females had a death rate of 1.7%.[76] In those under the age of 50 the risk of death is less than 0.5% while in those over the age of 70 it is more than 8%.

I think people are overhyping this

[chezball]

not sure which thread is worse, here or the political one.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Thought I would post in here ... I've been hit by the panic.

My brother in law; 41; PhD dropped his car off at our house and I drove him to the airport (JFK) two weeks ago to visit my in-laws in Israel. Smart guy and for context, a glass half empty kind of thinker.

Anyway, not one hour ago (around 6am IST), I got a phone call from him in which he opened with telling me that he's not crazy, he needs me to listen and that he's made the decision not to come back to the United States. He has a cough, and to protect my family, he shouldn't come back. He thinks he has the virus, he thinks the numbers are grossly under-reported and for a variety of reasons, he believes that this is going to be on a scale that the world has never seen.

His words 45 seconds into the call "I've made the decision not to come back to the United States"

He then went on to tell me about all the Asian people on his connecting flight from Poland, how they likely escaped China the only way they could to get to Israel; how he landed the same day the Israeli's from the Diamond Princess cruise ship passengers landed in Israel and they could have gotten him infected ... etc. He then instructed me to begin the process of isolation with my family, stay vigilant and clean out supply stores ASAP before it's too late.

I was listening to Pappa Don't Preach; knocking out some work and now all of a sudden, I'm kinda shook. Not because of anything coronavirus related but because this crazy guy is eventually gonna come back and I have to have him around my kids.

I've never spoken to anyone who was as convinced in anything as he was that this is gonna break out and slaughter the population. Left here 12 days ago a normal guy.

He also insisted I not talk to his parents because they're not listening and they're worried he's just spreading panic.

Madness. 45 minutes of my life that I just don't know what to do with.

Are you in one of those found footage horror movies?

[Pete Schweddy]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

According to WHO, based on analysis of 44,000 cases of COVID-19 in Hubei province, around 80% of people have a mild form of the disease, 14% developed more severe disease such as pneumonia, 5% have critical disease, and 2% of cases are fatal.[73]

Among those who died, many had preexisting conditions, including hypertension, diabetes, or cardiovascular disease,[74] and the median time from initial symptoms to death was 14 days (range 6–41 days).[75] Males had a death rate of 2.8% while females had a death rate of 1.7%.[76] In those under the age of 50 the risk of death is less than 0.5% while in those over the age of 70 it is more than 8%.

I think people are overhyping this

Sounds like people think the actual cases of COVID-19 could be much higher, as many who are likely infected seek no treatment due to very minor symptoms. If that's the case, it makes the death rate even lower.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

According to WHO, based on analysis of 44,000 cases of COVID-19 in Hubei province, around 80% of people have a mild form of the disease, 14% developed more severe disease such as pneumonia, 5% have critical disease, and 2% of cases are fatal.[73]

Among those who died, many had preexisting conditions, including hypertension, diabetes, or cardiovascular disease,[74] and the median time from initial symptoms to death was 14 days (range 6–41 days).[75] Males had a death rate of 2.8% while females had a death rate of 1.7%.[76] In those under the age of 50 the risk of death is less than 0.5% while in those over the age of 70 it is more than 8%.

I think people are overhyping this

Good post. Death rate above the age of 80 was 18% last I saw. Death rate for millennials is under 0.3%.

[patchgenie]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Thought I would post in here ... I've been hit by the panic.

My brother in law; 41; PhD dropped his car off at our house and I drove him to the airport (JFK) two weeks ago to visit my in-laws in Israel. Smart guy and for context, a glass half empty kind of thinker.

Anyway, not one hour ago (around 6am IST), I got a phone call from him in which he opened with telling me that he's not crazy, he needs me to listen and that he's made the decision not to come back to the United States. He has a cough, and to protect my family, he shouldn't come back. He thinks he has the virus, he thinks the numbers are grossly under-reported and for a variety of reasons, he believes that this is going to be on a scale that the world has never seen.

His words 45 seconds into the call "I've made the decision not to come back to the United States"

He then went on to tell me about all the Asian people on his connecting flight from Poland, how they likely escaped China the only way they could to get to Israel; how he landed the same day the Israeli's from the Diamond Princess cruise ship passengers landed in Israel and they could have gotten him infected ... etc. He then instructed me to begin the process of isolation with my family, stay vigilant and clean out supply stores ASAP before it's too late.

I was listening to Pappa Don't Preach; knocking out some work and now all of a sudden, I'm kinda shook. Not because of anything coronavirus related but because this crazy guy is eventually gonna come back and I have to have him around my kids.

I've never spoken to anyone who was as convinced in anything as he was that this is gonna break out and slaughter the population. Left here 12 days ago a normal guy.

He also insisted I not talk to his parents because they're not listening and they're worried he's just spreading panic.

Madness. 45 minutes of my life that I just don't know what to do with.

he must of been watching too much news. where was all this drama for the swine flu? people who smoke or are immunocompromised will take the most damage, but otherwise you'd probably be ok eventually.

[preakness]

Trump didn't call the virus s hoax


However he's such an idiot for even using hoax and coronavirus in same statement

Dude just can't shut up

Can't stand Hillary but I just wish trump would just pipe down more

[preakness]

This post got me thinking - whatever happened to your lawsuit vs card company,?



My brother in law; 41; PhD dropped his car off at our house and I drove him to the airport (JFK) two weeks ago to visit my in-laws in Israel. Smart guy and for context, a glass half empty kind of thinker.

Anyway, not one hour ago (around 6am IST), I got a phone call from him in which he opened with telling me that he's not crazy, he needs me to listen and that he's made the decision not to come back to the United States. He has a cough, and to protect my family, he shouldn't come back. He thinks he has the virus, he thinks the numbers are grossly under-reported and for a variety of reasons, he believes that this is going to be on a scale that the world has never seen.

His words 45 seconds into the call "I've made the decision not to come back to the United States"

He then went on to tell me about all the Asian people on his connecting flight from Poland, how they likely escaped China the only way they could to get to Israel; how he landed the same day the Israeli's from the Diamond Princess cruise ship passengers landed in Israel and they could have gotten him infected ... etc. He then instructed me to begin the process of isolation with my family, stay vigilant and clean out supply stores ASAP before it's too late.

I was listening to Pappa Don't Preach; knocking out some work and now all of a sudden, I'm kinda shook. Not because of anything coronavirus related but because this crazy guy is eventually gonna come back and I have to have him around my kids.

I've never spoken to anyone who was as convinced in anything as he was that this is gonna break out and slaughter the population. Left here 12 days ago a normal guy.

He also insisted I not talk to his parents because they're not listening and they're worried he's just spreading panic.

Madness. 45 minutes of my life that I just don't know what to do with.[/QUOTE]

[callou2131]

Wish I still had a few boxes of N95 masks to cash in on the pandemonium. A box of 10 was $12.95 a few months ago on ebay, now they are like $80

[runrickyrun]

The Chinese healthcare system doesn't even rank in the Top 125. China has one of the highest population densities, making transmission more likely and at an accelerated pace. (Thus far) The probability of dying from the Coronavirus in China is 1 in 497,000; Italy is 1 in 2.89 million; South Korea is 1 in 3.22 million. According to our government website, there are 3,500 deaths in Canada every year from the influenza, giving us Canadians a 1 in 10,800 chance in dying from it. I don't recall the stock market crashing, the rest of the world hitting the "panic" button, or empty shelves in the supermarkets. Keep fueling the fire, but I won't have any problems sleeping tonight.

[runrickyrun]

Conspiracy Theory? WHO struggles to receive funding from countries and a "deadly virus" is spawned in the country that contributes (by and far) the greatest amount of money. World panics, recognizes the value of WHO, and immediately donates millions to show thanks and to assist with the prevention of future outbreaks??

From the scholarly article, "The financial sustainability of the World Health Organization and the political economy of global health governance: a review of funding proposals."

The WHO continues to struggle in delivering its constitutional mandate amidst competing donor priorities. This situation has created a vicious cycle of mistrust, leading to a lack of commitment by member states to increase (assessed) contributions to the WHO, which then leads to the limited ability of the WHO to appropriately address major global health challenges, which itself erodes the place of the WHO as a leader in global health governance. Interestingly, the emerging economies such as the BRICS have formally committed to strengthen and legitimise the WHO as the coordinating authority in global health through the principle of multilateralism. These member states have been actively engaged in WHO reform process and striving to bridge the widened gap between assessed and voluntary contributions. For example, for year 2018, China is the largest contributor of ACs with 16.56 million USD, followed by Brazil with 5.91 million USD, Russian Federation with 4.45 million USD and India with 0.67 million USD [97].

[97] WHO. WHO’s Financing Dialogue 2016 -A proposal for increasing the assessed contribution ensuring sustainable financing for WHO. Geneva: WHO. p. 2016.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by rman112

Are you in one of those found footage horror movies?

OK I lol'd at this one.

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by callou2131

Wish I still had a few boxes of N95 masks to cash in on the pandemonium. A box of 10 was $12.95 a few months ago on ebay, now they are like $80

It’s annoying because the people who actually need them can’t get them

[RedSoxFan28]