2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here - Page 18

timber09 · 07-20-2016, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

So you don't care if the President breaks Federal Laws that he is supposed to enforce. Got it!

Nope - I really don't

If you are a functional adult and you want to choose to smoke dope or drink, have at it. I'm not going to partake myself (well in the weed anyway) but I could give a rats ass what someone else wants to do.

Ephland · 07-20-2016, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TOMBB25

I'm familiar with the Clinton's, yes. They have a history of being incredible people.

So then it's fair to say that none of the issues in 2016 are really affecting your decision. And that Clinton's ability to be President has nothing to do with it either.

You know, it's funny. The so-called "liberal media" (not accusing you of pulling that card, just using it to make a point) gets a lot of mentions, but yet, somehow the people who oppose Clinton and "all that she is" seem to know quite a bit about her.

timber09 · 07-20-2016, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

OMG! Numbers from POLITIFACT.com!!! Lol!! Nope...no liberal bias here.

Feel free to debate any of their statements or reviews however any site that gets trashed by conservatives and liberals alike is probably more accurate than anyone would like to let on. I am sure there are errors in their findings here and there but I'm also sure that it is a better place to start looking for answers than Fox News or MSNBC.

NeilCO · 07-20-2016, 03:01 PM

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jubei777 · 07-20-2016, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NeilCO

I'm not really a political guy. Just a huge Third Eye Blind fan.

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Yeah that was an awesome troll job that they did.

chipmaster · 07-20-2016, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jstephens24

0% chance Obama would get 50% of higher if he was able to run again. What state do you live in?

I know a couple of people that voted for him 1st and 2nd term and are pissed right now because of the healthcare exchange bull$hit. It really hurt the small business/self employed sector in the pockets.

jcardstore · 07-20-2016, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chipmaster

I know a couple of people that voted for him 1st and 2nd term and are pissed right now because of the healthcare exchange bull$hit. It really hurt the small business/self employed sector in the pockets.

NO! Obamacare is wonderful! Don't you dare disgrace his legacy

preakness · 07-20-2016, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Devi8or

both of them are hot.....wait.....is that what you were asking?

Yes
Yes indeed

preakness · 07-20-2016, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by babyfaceposey

Not a Kelly fan. I watched the whole debate that night and the questions asked to Trump compared to others was out of line. There is dirt on everyone on that stage, but she choose to go after only Trump. It is not her job to play favorites.

No. Not talking about them
Professionally

Who cares about that

I'm talking hotness

jdandns · 07-20-2016, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

She is a liar (fact), hypocrite (fact), unfit to be president (opinion).

There, since you want to be technical, I cleared it up for you.

Not technical. Accurate.
Again, those are merely your opinions, not fact.
You can turn them into a vote, for what it's worth.

TOMBB25 · 07-20-2016, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chipmaster

I know a couple of people that voted for him 1st and 2nd term and are pissed right now because of the healthcare exchange bull$hit. It really hurt the small business/self employed sector in the pockets.

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

NO! Obamacare is wonderful! Don't you dare disgrace his legacy

Obamacare will go down as one of the biggest social failures in our history. People will still stand up for it because it is timed to him, but most of us realize how horrible it has failed. My brother is self employed, probably qualifies as low income and has diabetes and his premiums went through the roof. Also, there is so much debate with planned parenthood and women's rights and abortion, blah blah blah. I understand that abortion services a such a small part of what they do, but I would have thought that the EXTRAORDINARY Obamacare plan would have gotten rid of the need for planned parenthood. I mean it is UNIVERSAL healthcare, correct?

jdandns · 07-20-2016, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

NO! Obamacare is wonderful! Don't you dare disgrace his legacy

What we had before was worse. What we'll have in the future will be better.

jdandns · 07-20-2016, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TOMBB25

Obamacare will go down as one of the biggest social failures in our history. People will still stand up for it because it is timed to him, but most of us realize how horrible it has failed. My brother is self employed, probably qualifies as low income and has diabetes and his premiums went through the roof. Also, there is so much debate with planned parenthood and women's rights and abortion, blah blah blah. I understand that abortion services a such a small part of what they do, but I would have thought that the EXTRAORDINARY Obamacare plan would have gotten rid of the need for planned parenthood. I mean it is UNIVERSAL healthcare, correct?

It wasn't the extraordinary version. They didn't get everything they wanted, so it's hard to judge it since it isn't finished yet. Making it a single payer system is the main thing.
Once that's added, it'll be better, but it's already way better than what the average person had before, and by the nature of the that, some people certainly preferred what we had before. Some people just don't like anything to change, ever.
Regardless, if something didn't have to be done, they never would have been able to do it. I'm still astonished they got through as much as they did.

preakness · 07-20-2016, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jdandns

I'm not defending a criminal because she is literally not a criminal.
How do you still not get that one is not a criminal unless they are convicted of a crime? Due process is one of the very cornerstones of our Democracy.

But perhaps I am mistaken.

Please list the specific times Clinton has been convicted of a crime for my edification. Make sure these convictions occurred in our actual material world in a genuine court of law (as opposed to the those registered solely during one of your own partisan-driven fitful and angry nocturnal emissions).

Once I have that information, I'll get back to you.

Glove don't fit we must acquit
Must mean OK
Not a criminal

chezball · 07-20-2016, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jdandns

It wasn't the extraordinary version. They didn't get everything they wanted, so it's hard to judge it since it isn't finished yet. Making it a single payer system is the main thing.
Once that's added, it'll be better, but it's already way better than what the average person had before, and by the nature of the that, some people certainly preferred what we had before. Some people just don't like anything to change, ever.
Regardless, if something didn't have to be done, they never would have been able to do it. I'm still astonished they got through as much as they did.

Because you had Pelosi telling the dems "just vote for it and read it later"
That's how it got passed.

atoaz12 · 07-20-2016, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chipmaster

I know a couple of people that voted for him 1st and 2nd term and are pissed right now because of the healthcare exchange bull$hit. It really hurt the small business/self employed sector in the pockets.

Brutal on us small business folks

But all people heard was 'Healthcare for everyone!'

They never stop to think how it's paid for. The way it is setup is nothing but a way for the government to make money and have more control.

NeilCO · 07-20-2016, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jdandns

It wasn't the extraordinary version. They didn't get everything they wanted, so it's hard to judge it since it isn't finished yet. Making it a single payer system is the main thing.

Once that's added, it'll be better, but it's already way better than what the average person had before, and by the nature of the that, some people certainly preferred what we had before. Some people just don't like anything to change, ever.

Regardless, if something didn't have to be done, they never would have been able to do it. I'm still astonished they got through as much as they did.

I admire your efforts in this thread. I would have burned out hours ago. Keep fighting the good fight.

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jdandns · 07-20-2016, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by preakness

Glove don't fit we must acquit
Must mean OK
Not a criminal

Yes, she is O.J. Simpson.

Still waiting for even one crime that can be proven from any of you.

Will be waiting for a loooong time....

chezball · 07-20-2016, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by atoaz12

Brutal on us small business folks

But all people heard was 'Healthcare for everyone!'

They never stop to think how it's paid for. The way it is setup is nothing but a way for the government to make money and have more control.

So if you had let's say 54 employees, instead of looking to expand.
What do you do, you lay-off five to get under the fifty employee threshold.
Absolute job killer, the whole thing is caving in on itself because there aren't enough young people signing up for it.

preakness · 07-20-2016, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jdandns

Yes, she is O.J. Simpson.

Still waiting for even one crime that can be proven from any of you.

Will be waiting for a loooong time....

Didn't she break rules / procedures with the emails and server?

Timmay · 07-20-2016, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by preakness

Didn't she break rules / procedures with the emails and server?

With Hillary supporters it's always about proof and evidence. You never hear a Hillary supporter looking for the truth. I wonder why?

jdandns · 07-20-2016, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NeilCO

I admire your efforts in this thread. I would have burned out hours ago. Keep fighting the good fight.

I can't tell you how many threads have evaporated from this forum when people confronted by simple reason and logic had to go to Defcon and ruin the discussion for everyone by getting the thread deleted with some overtly outlandish statement. More often than not, I think they do it on purpose, not having enjoyed their experience within the thread. I've lost some good work because of that, modesty be damned.
It's more worthwhile for me to post now, with these subjects no longer off limits, knowing that escape hatch I described above is gone, not only for others, but for myself, as well. These kinds of words will at last linger here. We should all choose them well.

chezball · 07-20-2016, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmay

With Hillary supporters it's always about proof and evidence. You never hear a Hillary supporter looking for the truth. I wonder why?

She lied to congress and Colby was given the proof. Let's see what he does with it. We all know the answer.NOTHING

Timmay · 07-20-2016, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chezball

She lied to congress and Colby was given the proof. Let's see what he does with it. We all know the answer.NOTHING

Yes, it was proven but no charges. In their mind that makes her innocent.

preakness · 07-20-2016, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmay

Yes, it was proven but no charges. In their mind that makes her innocent.

I'm tired of white privilege and special
Treatment in this country

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