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NeedChapmans · 08-11-2016, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Trump will lose the election in a landslide, but the real tragedy is watching him radicalize a portion of our population. While on one hand he loses support with every moronic tweet, for those committed to him, their loyalty only becomes more unshakeable. I believe that come Election Day, 90% of the country will have tuned him out, but 10% will believe literally anything he or his successor says. American radicalization.

No credit. Trump is a mastermind on social media ... just wait for the debates. If you think the media can't stop talking about his craziness now; it's going to ramp up exponentially come October.

NeedChapmans · 08-11-2016, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NeilCO

I bet you don't even believe that Obama founded Isis. OPEN YOUR MIND, SHEEPLE.

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Just like I bet you don't believe Donald Trump is ISIS's best recruiter.

Hillary Clinton's Claim That Donald Trump Is In ISIS Recruiting Videos Isn't True. Not Yet, At Least.

NeilCO · 08-11-2016, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Just like I bet you don't believe Donald Trump is ISIS's best recruiter.

Hillary Clinton's Claim That Donald Trump Is In ISIS Recruiting Videos Isn't True. Not Yet, At Least.

I see the similarities here. In both cases, they are using hyperbole.

Hillary said that Trump was being used in ISIS videos. It was clear, in context, that when she called Trump ISIS's biggest recruiter, she didn't mean he was intentionally recruiting-- just that his buffoonery and hatred would be the best selling point for joining an anti-U.S. cause.

On first read, given how nonchalantly he threw it out there, I was pretty sure Trump was using the same kind of hyperbole when he said Obama founded ISIS. Of course, given Trump's base, it was much more likely to be taken at face value anyways. But later, when an interviewer tried to help him clarify what he meant, Trump doubled down and said he meant Obama LITERALLY founded ISIS. At this point, Trump's hyperbole turned into a crazy conspiracy theory being touted by a man in the running to be POTUS. Crazy stuff.

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NeedChapmans · 08-12-2016, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NeilCO

I see the similarities here. In both cases, they are using hyperbole.

Hillary said that Trump was being used in ISIS videos. It was clear, in context, that when she called Trump ISIS's biggest recruiter, she didn't mean he was intentionally recruiting-- just that his buffoonery and hatred would be the best selling point for joining an anti-U.S. cause.

On first read, given how nonchalantly he threw it out there, I was pretty sure Trump was using the same kind of hyperbole when he said Obama founded ISIS. Of course, given Trump's base, it was much more likely to be taken at face value anyways. But later, when an interviewer tried to help him clarify what he meant, Trump doubled down and said he meant Obama LITERALLY founded ISIS. At this point, Trump's hyperbole turned into a crazy conspiracy theory being touted by a man in the running to be POTUS. Crazy stuff.

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See that's where we don't see eye to eye. Trump wasn't using hyperbole, and he's not trying to formulate some crazy conspiracy theory. I don't think there's a single person that believes what he said to be true and he knows that. But every non Fox News station addresses the issue today, CNN going as far to create a full panel to discuss the top and FACT CHECK the statement. Everybody talking about Obama and ISIS today ... Obama and ISIS. Lumped together in discussion.

Still not a single penny paid in TV ads from Trump; but he continues to do a bang up job of getting his own advertisements out there, free of charge.

NeilCO · 08-12-2016, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

See that's where we don't see eye to eye. Trump wasn't using hyperbole, and he's not trying to formulate some crazy conspiracy theory. I don't think there's a single person that believes what he said to be true and he knows that. But every non Fox News station addresses the issue today, CNN going as far to create a full panel to discuss the top and FACT CHECK the statement. Everybody talking about Obama and ISIS today ... Obama and ISIS. Lumped together in discussion.

Still not a single penny paid in TV ads from Trump; but he continues to do a bang up job of getting his own advertisements out there, free of charge.

A good point. I honestly can't tell if he's a master manipulator or bat$h1t crazy (or both). So if you think he's just getting free advertising, do you think the crazy quotes keep coming if he is elected? Or does he tone it down once he gets what he wants?

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jdandns · 08-12-2016, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

I was being facetious. I'm on your side.

And neither one of you can connect any of those dots.
Accidents and suicides happen all the time.
In the interest of full disclosure, please provide a list of all the people the Clintons have known and had dealings with over their 40 years in public life who are still alive. Leave no one out. We'll then compare the sizes of these lists.

Conspiracy theory o' the day thread rolls on and on, but won't make a bit of difference in the end...

NeedChapmans · 08-12-2016, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NeilCO

A good point. I honestly can't tell if he's a master manipulator or bat$h1t crazy (or both). So if you think he's just getting free advertising, do you think the crazy quotes keep coming if he is elected? Or does he tone it down once he gets what he wants?

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From literally day one, when the man comes down the escalator to announce he's running for President of the United States, he doesn't just announce it. He starts off with a bang:

"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people"

This is a man that defeated polished politician after politician to get the most votes in primary history ... and that was his opening statement. I don't think there was a person in the world outside of Trump himself who truly believed he could become the Republican nominee for President of the United States after that speech, and yet here we are.

So at this point, I have no choice but to recognize his genius. It seems strange to say, when I watch him say crazy things day in and day out but who am I to doubt his strategy? The man used a fraction of the money everyone else had in their pocket, said the most outlandish and crazy things you could dream of on National TV over and over and over again, and just kept on winning.

To answer your question, I don't believe the quotes to be continued (on this scale) if elected. He'll still say what's on his mind when off the cuff, but his policy speeches and addresses will stay on point and he'll kick back knowing he conned the world into electing Donald Trump POTUS (and I use the word conned in an admiration way, not negative at all).

jdandns · 08-12-2016, 01:59 AM

The 15 politicians (and Ben Carson) that he defeated for the nomination all advocated an antiquated world view ranging mildly to wildly out of touch with the modern electorate. They couldn't even strike a chord with Republican voters, despite endless pandering to them.
If Trump can win the general election with his empty suit routine, he's due some credit for Chauncey Gardiner-ing his way to the Presidency.
Until then, absolutely zero.

corndog · 08-12-2016, 03:50 AM

I may not like Trump as a person due to his inability to control his mouth, but watching how he has taken the mostly liberal media by the throat and rag dolled them is actually quite funny.
At least he is getting information out there that Hill's shills won't report. The Clinton's are about as corrupt as I have seen and their protection is finally breaking down. Whack-a-mole doesn't work like it used to.
Good riddance to the Clintons once all of the info is finally out and their lackeys start singing.
The love that Hillary and Bill have for each other will help them survive.

NonSportsCardForum · 08-12-2016, 04:39 AM

babyfaceposey · 08-12-2016, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by NeilCO

I see the similarities here. In both cases, they are using hyperbole.

Hillary said that Trump was being used in ISIS videos. It was clear, in context, that when she called Trump ISIS's biggest recruiter, she didn't mean he was intentionally recruiting-- just that his buffoonery and hatred would be the best selling point for joining an anti-U.S. cause.

On first read, given how nonchalantly he threw it out there, I was pretty sure Trump was using the same kind of hyperbole when he said Obama founded ISIS. Of course, given Trump's base, it was much more likely to be taken at face value anyways. But later, when an interviewer tried to help him clarify what he meant, Trump doubled down and said he meant Obama LITERALLY founded ISIS. At this point, Trump's hyperbole turned into a crazy conspiracy theory being touted by a man in the running to be POTUS. Crazy stuff.

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What makes you thing people supporting Trump take what he says at face value? I certainly do not. I am voting Trump because he is not a politican. Need to get all these idiots out of D.C.

babyfaceposey · 08-12-2016, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jdandns

And neither one of you can connect any of those dots.
Accidents and suicides happen all the time.
In the interest of full disclosure, please provide a list of all the people the Clintons have known and had dealings with over their 40 years in public life who are still alive. Leave no one out. We'll then compare the sizes of these lists.

Conspiracy theory o' the day thread rolls on and on, but won't make a bit of difference in the end...

Can you put a list together of suspious deaths that are linked to Trump?

Addison · 08-12-2016, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by babyfaceposey

Can you put a list together of suspious deaths that are linked to Trump?

Trump pushed him...

Worker plunges to death at Trump site - NY Daily News

babyfaceposey · 08-12-2016, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Addison

Trump pushed him...

Worker plunges to death at Trump site - NY Daily News

That is all you have?

Addison · 08-12-2016, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by babyfaceposey

That is all you have?

Did Trump organize 9/11 to kill hundreds of "friends"? He has the money to get it done...

Trump Won?t Name Any of the ?Hundreds of Friends? He Says Died on 9/11 - The Daily Beast

babyfaceposey · 08-12-2016, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Addison

Did Trump organize 9/11 to kill hundreds of "friends"? He has the money to get it done...

Trump Won?t Name Any of the ?Hundreds of Friends? He Says Died on 9/11 - The Daily Beast

Bush. Ring a bell.

pac213up · 08-12-2016, 05:45 AM

GOP insiders: Trump can't win - POLITICO

NeedChapmans · 08-12-2016, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pac213up

GOP insiders: Trump can't win - POLITICO

I think you'll see a lot more of this as well in the coming weeks. I think it's pretty clear that Trump is not a Republican, and he threatens their party just as well as he does the democratic party. He's proven to be a guy that just doesn't care about party lines and special interests, so if you're a career politician, red or blue ... you're likely not a fan of what he brings to the table if elected President.

But in the same way Mitt Romney coming out and bashing Trump didn't work, I don't understand why these career GOP guys continue to come out of the woodwork to write pieces slamming Trump. It's only emboldening his argument to have an outsider in the White House.

Spidervacc · 08-12-2016, 09:27 AM

I have to agree as someone who does not like Hilary and will never vote for her and not sure what I will do the more they say do not vote trump the more I lean to him. It helps him and I still do not understand why they do not see that. I am like a lot just mad at government and the more these insiders and party leaders say trump is not there guy the more appeal I think he has . The more replubliocans that side with Hilary the more I go good and want to vote for him..I know the polls say Hilary is leading but I know a lot of folks who love trump but will not admit to anyone as they are afraid of the scorn. Etc. Will be a closer race then most think. Still undecided but leaning a little every day the elites come out and the news reporters try to tell me what to think..

trixstar · 08-12-2016, 10:19 AM

Can everyone who actually legitimately plans on voting for Trump please post in this thred starting now, I just need to make a list. Thanks

NeedChapmans · 08-12-2016, 10:26 AM

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Can everyone who actually legitimately plans on voting for Trump please post in this thred starting now, I just need to make a list. Thanks

I think the list you're looking for is in the poll.

chezball · 08-12-2016, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I think the list you're looking for is in the poll.

Won't see the names if he voted already.

NeedChapmans · 08-12-2016, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chezball

Won't see the names if he voted already.

Sure you can; you just click on the number of votes.

chezball · 08-12-2016, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Sure you can; you just click on the number of votes.

ha ha never knew that.

jarrodsalas · 08-12-2016, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by chezball

Won't see the names if he voted already.

I can see them.

What brilliant idea do you have Trixstar? I'm willing to bet it's similar to crossing out a name in a junior high yearbook.

View Poll Results: 2016 Election
Hillary Clinton	81	19.19%
Donald Trump	188	44.55%
Neither	153	36.26%
Voters: 422. You may not vote on this poll

08-12-2016, 03:50 AM	#4409
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 19,074	I may not like Trump as a person due to his inability to control his mouth, but watching how he has taken the mostly liberal media by the throat and rag dolled them is actually quite funny. At least he is getting information out there that Hill's shills won't report. The Clinton's are about as corrupt as I have seen and their protection is finally breaking down. Whack-a-mole doesn't work like it used to. Good riddance to the Clintons once all of the info is finally out and their lackeys start singing. The love that Hillary and Bill have for each other will help them survive. __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal.

08-12-2016, 05:45 AM	#4417
pac213up Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,269	GOP insiders: Trump can't win - POLITICO __________________ "Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser." - Red Auerbach

08-12-2016, 01:59 AM	#4408
jdandns Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Southern California Posts: 24,290	The 15 politicians (and Ben Carson) that he defeated for the nomination all advocated an antiquated world view ranging mildly to wildly out of touch with the modern electorate. They couldn't even strike a chord with Republican voters, despite endless pandering to them. If Trump can win the general election with his empty suit routine, he's due some credit for Chauncey Gardiner-ing his way to the Presidency. Until then, absolutely zero.

08-12-2016, 04:39 AM	#4410
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08-12-2016, 09:27 AM	#4419
Spidervacc Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 94	I have to agree as someone who does not like Hilary and will never vote for her and not sure what I will do the more they say do not vote trump the more I lean to him. It helps him and I still do not understand why they do not see that. I am like a lot just mad at government and the more these insiders and party leaders say trump is not there guy the more appeal I think he has . The more replubliocans that side with Hilary the more I go good and want to vote for him..I know the polls say Hilary is leading but I know a lot of folks who love trump but will not admit to anyone as they are afraid of the scorn. Etc. Will be a closer race then most think. Still undecided but leaning a little every day the elites come out and the news reporters try to tell me what to think..

08-12-2016, 10:19 AM	#4420
trixstar Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Seattle Posts: 24,201 stunner316	Can everyone who actually legitimately plans on voting for Trump please post in this thred starting now, I just need to make a list. Thanks