Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer - Page 1759

KhalDrogo · 08-06-2020, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Topps will sell card #200 next week.... have they shipped card #100 yet?

I know I got #95 Cartoon Mattingly last week.

A few people have #100.

AirplaneDon · 08-06-2020, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Shinjoy

If only someone could post today's Efdot card to distract from the carnage. That should be a BANGER.

I like the card a lot, but I'm not sure how it will be received.

rats60 · 08-06-2020, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AirplaneDon

I like the card a lot, but I'm not sure how it will be received.

Do you have the full image?~

dOubleO · 08-06-2020, 08:56 AM

To change the channel...Today's cards are

Bruvydsb · 08-06-2020, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

A few people have #100.

I got my 99 & 100 yesterday

AirplaneDon · 08-06-2020, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rats60

Do you have the full image?~

Yes, I'm in his Patreon, but can't share early images from there. But the images are available now obviously.

Shinjoy · 08-06-2020, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AirplaneDon

I like the card a lot, but I'm not sure how it will be received.

Oh wow, now I know what you mean.

I think a key problem at this point may be that good cards are going to start to get lost in a mammoth 400 card set. I love Naturel's Ryan, but it just won't stand out immediately to most people in a sea of P2020, and overall there don't seem to be many Naturel or Nolan Ryan collectors intensely involved in this. And Naturel doesn't seem to be buying huge lots to autograph.

Efdot's card stands out. I like it.

ThoseBackPages · 08-06-2020, 09:27 AM

i see nothing "this is my best yet" in that McGwire. its his Gooden retread, but using nothing from the original card.

and his Gooden was incredible (as a Mets fan from Flushing). it's an easy pass.

The Efdot Brett. i will have to think it over, but first viewing is underwhelming

DioBrando · 08-06-2020, 09:30 AM

Think today is another pass on both cards, at least buying from Topps. Might eventually pick up the Brett via Ebay. Unless there is a Ermsy tomorrow, looks like a one card week for me(Trout)

eldustino · 08-06-2020, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by oplum29

really? who?

Someone who loves clemente came in hot, cussing about shore's effort, adding that fucci is also bad, and inspired some pretty funny back and forth between the regulars here. It was hypothesized that he was really antonio brown. Kind of an inside joke I guess.

eldustino · 08-06-2020, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i see nothing "this is my best yet" in that McGwire. its his Gooden retread, but using nothing from the original card.

and his Gooden was incredible (as a Mets fan from Flushing). it's an easy pass.

The Efdot Brett. i will have to think it over, but first viewing is underwhelming

I see san francisco in the background; is that a problem for A's fans? Real question. [edit, this is the view "from" an airplane flying over oakland]

And baller could give old man a lesson in what a decent baseball card photo looks like. Much better photograph than the original and needless to say better image than [L]ol's.

That said, I'm in the camp that much prefers cards to resemble the original card; I really don't want completely new versions. Baller's wood borders look like cheap faux wood flooring they put in new apartments.

RyanSwinger · 08-06-2020, 09:37 AM

Does anyone know what was the thing that Ben Baller cryptically said would "compeltely change the hobby" tow months ago?

was it Stockx? Trout autos?

ThoseBackPages · 08-06-2020, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by eldustino

I see san francisco in the background; is that a problem for A's fans? Real question. [edit, this is the view "from" an airplane flying over oakland]

And baller could give old man a lesson in what a decent baseball card photo looks like. Much better photograph than the original and needless to say better image than [L]ol's.

That said, I'm in the camp that much prefers cards to resemble the original card; I really don't want completely new versions. Baller's wood borders look like cheap faux wood flooring they put in new apartments.

that IS next level trolling! lol

Shinjoy · 08-06-2020, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanSwinger

Does anyone know what was the thing that Ben Baller cryptically said would "compeltely change the hobby" tow months ago?

was it Stockx? Trout autos?

Is he really coming out with a Chrome set? That's one possibility if true.

AirplaneDon · 08-06-2020, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Shinjoy

Oh wow, now I know what you mean.

I think a key problem at this point may be that good cards are going to start to get lost in a mammoth 400 card set. I love Naturel's Ryan, but it just won't stand out immediately to most people in a sea of P2020, and overall there don't seem to be many Naturel or Nolan Ryan collectors intensely involved in this. And Naturel doesn't seem to be buying huge lots to autograph.

Efdot's card stands out. I like it.

Good points here. I think a lot of the PR numbers are influenced by having to get over the hump of delays from the bubble and people having to deal with offloading bulk ordered cards at a loss, that I forget how big the set is in general and how cards can get lost.

Naturel is really a subtle artist that I wasn't collecting, but who I liked (had him ranked at the top tier of artists in my first take on them). But the more I paid attention to his cards, the more I liked, and his Mic Trout was the one that made me go back and grab some of his earlier cards. At this point, I don't expect anyone to be switching artist or player sets around, so it makes sense these are getting lost a bit. A new wave may change that, but I can see cards that don't jump out in any way for the non-draw players getting lost in the shuffle. Good points again.

dOubleO · 08-06-2020, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanSwinger

Does anyone know what was the thing that Ben Baller cryptically said would "compeltely change the hobby" tow months ago?

was it Stockx? Trout autos?

Are you referring to his partnership to BGS on auto'd P2020 cards? I think moving forward all the auto'd cards from his store will be BGS certified.

Unless it's something else you're referring to

GeechQuest · 08-06-2020, 09:49 AM

Love the BO shout out on the Brett.

TPB, has Blake given you an Easter egg yet?

ThoseBackPages · 08-06-2020, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Love the BO shout out on the Brett.

TPB, has Blake given you an Easter egg yet?

GEECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No Sir

GeechQuest · 08-06-2020, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

GEECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No Sir

I want a Blake/TPB and a Don C/AirplaneDon easter egg card.

-TPB on the Blake Gooden
-AirplaneDon on the Don C Clemente (would be EXTREMELY controversial).

ThoseBackPages · 08-06-2020, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I want a Blake/TPB and a Don C/AirplaneDon easter egg card.

-TPB on the Blake Gooden
-AirplaneDon on the Don C Clemente (would be EXTREMELY controversial).

oh, that would be fantastic!

RyanSwinger · 08-06-2020, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AirplaneDon

Good points here. I think a lot of the PR numbers are influenced by having to get over the hump of delays from the bubble and people having to deal with offloading bulk ordered cards at a loss, that I forget how big the set is in general and how cards can get lost.

Naturel is really a subtle artist that I wasn't collecting, but who I liked (had him ranked at the top tier of artists in my first take on them). But the more I paid attention to his cards, the more I liked, and his Mic Trout was the one that made me go back and grab some of his earlier cards. At this point, I don't expect anyone to be switching artist or player sets around, so it makes sense these are getting lost a bit. A new wave may change that, but I can see cards that don't jump out in any way for the non-draw players getting lost in the shuffle. Good points again.

This comes back to my thoughts about the set once it has been completed.

Most of cards being shipped I completely forgot about and dont even remember ordering. At the current time most arent that exciting when I receive them but after the set is over I will be able to look back and pick and choose which ones I like more than others. My opinion isnt going to be the same as others and I feel, once all cards are in hand, the secondary market will become more positive.

People love talking long term when things are up, but when things are down they get obsessed with short term thinking.

samcam · 08-06-2020, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dOubleO

To change the channel...Today's cards are

Thats two good lookin cards! More playful than the usual Efdot and the Baller has the best use of color of his cards so far.

AirplaneDon · 08-06-2020, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I want a Blake/TPB and a Don C/AirplaneDon easter egg card.

-TPB on the Blake Gooden
-AirplaneDon on the Don C Clemente (would be EXTREMELY controversial).

Easy 20K PRs each.

Silas Barnaby · 08-06-2020, 10:19 AM

Are the nickname colors a 'Future Stars' reference?

Silas Barnaby · 08-06-2020, 10:23 AM

I wasn't aware of Colossus as an actual nickname for McGwire that he used.

Learn something every day.

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ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,340 ThoseBackPages	i see nothing "this is my best yet" in that McGwire. its his Gooden retread, but using nothing from the original card. and his Gooden was incredible (as a Mets fan from Flushing). it's an easy pass. The Efdot Brett. i will have to think it over, but first viewing is underwhelming __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

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DioBrando Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 2,574	Think today is another pass on both cards, at least buying from Topps. Might eventually pick up the Brett via Ebay. Unless there is a Ermsy tomorrow, looks like a one card week for me(Trout) __________________ 1312 no gods, no masters

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dOubleO Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Toronto Posts: 398 d0uble0	To change the channel...Today's cards are

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RyanSwinger Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 1,104	Does anyone know what was the thing that Ben Baller cryptically said would "compeltely change the hobby" tow months ago? was it Stockx? Trout autos?

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GeechQuest Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 10,779 GeechQuest	Love the BO shout out on the Brett. TPB, has Blake given you an Easter egg yet?

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Silas Barnaby Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Bogeyland Posts: 8,230	Are the nickname colors a 'Future Stars' reference?

08-06-2020, 10:23 AM	#43975
Silas Barnaby Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Bogeyland Posts: 8,230	I wasn't aware of Colossus as an actual nickname for McGwire that he used. Learn something every day.