First Buzz: 2019-20 NBA Hoops Premium Stock Hobby Hybrid

[TimBuckTwo]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

in the long run I just can't win.

Keep saying you won't win and you won't. And some people here will cheer that for you.

[jjo1776]

Somebody on eBay is literally holding each pulsar set card and taking a picture then listing them one at a time for auction lolol


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[jdjdjd]

Has anyone figured out the rookie flash auto print run? I have seen two golds come out of a hobby hybrid case. 300 card set. Just going off the golds, maybe 1,500 cases? Again just my experience but I’ve seen one rookie auto in a case and there are 26 hot signatures rookies flash in the checklist and 23 rookie ink flash in the checklist. Maybe 30-31 print run per? This might be off. I’m making some assumptions that case hits and print run of each card are linear. Just trying to figure out on an average basis I suppose.

[irishfury]

https://ibb.co/41YDvv1

Pretty stoked for my pack.

Anyone know anything about the colors and which one our the rarest?

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by irishfury

https://ibb.co/41YDvv1

Pretty stoked for my pack.

Anyone know anything about the colors and which one our the rarest?

All colors have same pr..assumed 50

[mc1]

Originally Posted by irishfury

https://ibb.co/41YDvv1

Pretty stoked for my pack.

Anyone know anything about the colors and which one our the rarest?

Every pack has one of each color. Demand for each color is the only difference.

[DiamondDonovan]

Originally Posted by irishfury

https://ibb.co/41YDvv1

Pretty stoked for my pack.

Anyone know anything about the colors and which one our the rarest?

Pretty cool that PJ RC snuck into that vet pack!

All are estimated ~50 print run. Gold seems to be selling for the highest then Black, Red/Blue is even and Green is lowest.

Of course always a premium for matching uniform colors too.

[irishfury]

Thanks all for the info. Figured and pack with Luka/Trae/Klay and 1st round rookie is pretty good.

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

Lol because of what has happened with what I've sold the last 3 years I just hold everything now. I only sell if I absolutely have to for paying my bills or junk retail I bought at or below MSRP. That's why Im trying to let people know these sets will never hit it big. I had an order of 5 canceled on me from a seller but assuming I get my last 17 in the mail I'll have I think exactly 75 sets. Once I get them all they will be put in storage for probably years. Just like the vast majority of hobby related stuff I buy now.

Since I started this new strategy I think the only thing I can really double my money or better on is Spectra Basketball FOTL and Mosaic basketball retail. But I will probably never sell the Spectra. Even if it hits $3-4k as long as it is selling for less than Select FOTL I will never sell. No way should Spectra FOTL be worth less than Select FOTL. I expect to still have them when I die. So I plan on having it written in my will to have those 9 boxes put in my coffin and buried with me.

This is getting comical. So you were arguing with anyone you could about why these should be opened. But now you have 75 you're keeping sealed? Sure, nothing to see here.

And now all of the non-step whining about how you can never win. Stop trying to play people here, man. Just stop.

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by Somuchjunkwax

Found 6 blasters at Walmart this AM. Felt like I found a mountain of gold

Was there prizm as well? What part of FL?

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

This is getting comical. So you were arguing with anyone you could about why these should be opened. But now you have 75 you're keeping sealed? Sure, nothing to see here.

And now all of the non-step whining about how you can never win. Stop trying to play people here, man. Just stop.

He called people idiots for keeping the sets sealed no? Lol

[irishfury]

Originally Posted by Chris P

He called people idiots for keeping the sets sealed no? Lol

That just shows how silly he is. My best investments our my sealed products. I wasn't even able to get any of these from target but I bought 3 for 200-220 off ebay. Keeping 2 sealed and 1 opened for my PC/grading. But Basketball sealed is gold mine. I have 10 fanatics optic sets sealed. And 5 prizm retail 2019 sealed. Love sealed stuff. Got lots of soccer and baseball sealed as well.

Who buys 75 sets and like yall dumb for investing as well lol.

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by Chris P

He called people idiots for keeping the sets sealed no? Lol

Without looking, it was something like that. Meanwhile, he was buying sets to keep sealed (he's admitted he didn't get any on the target stocks). But this seems like a very recent revelation for moss (that he should keep them sealed).

Sure, sure.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

Yeah I had some of every single 18-19 basketball FOTL. I had 11 Prizm FOTL boxes. All gone for essentially nothing compared to current value.

I'm not cracking because at this point I know I'm going to lose or make as little as possible either way. If I piece out now something will happen where I'll lose the money one way or the other. You can't continually be 100% bad or 100% good without something in the universe causing it. Even with something I should do good on, like Spectra FOTL, I said for months that it was going to be the most underrated product of the year. I wanted to put at least $20k into it. I only ended up with 9 boxes.

Another example is I've being going to stores and did ok for awhile. But lately it's been horrible. The rep has been changing up Target schedules plus the virtual lists now so I get nothing or next to nothing. Walmart during Prizm, Mosaic basketball restock, and Mosaic football I saw reps stock 8 or 9 times at 6 or 7 different stores. I wound up with 3 Prizm hangers and 7 packs total. 0 Mosaic basketball. 0 Mosaic football. Statistically that should be impossible. But it happened. I said I was gonna be done going out to stores. But I'm sure I'll waste another 4-6 hours today to get nothing. Will continue to go out to find nothing or very little in the future. I can't stop.

Anything I made going out to stores the last few months I lost it all in 1 day. I hadn't been out on a Tuesday for months. My 2 local stores for 6 months the rep stocked every Wednesday at Target with the exception of 2 or 3 weeks. Him stocking that Tuesday, me going out, and the Target notification not letting you reswipe for the notification for hours cost me all those Hoops Premium sets I didn't get from target.com. To buy them on the secondary market I had to spend an additional give or take $3,200. Not to mention all these morons don't know how to pack sets. The top 25 condition of the sets I have probably 24 are the 25 I bought from target.com. As many already know from my posts they hate seeing, whether its bad luck, timing, stupidity, or something else completely out of my control in the long run I just can't win.

I feel your pain, I had 9 Prizm FOTL boxes and sold them for peanuts too.

Knowing that you bought all your sets via secondary market, it makes more sense that you're keeping them sealed. With that said, you can still make some $ if you wanted to rip them open and piece them out (e.g., someone said the packs still go for around $100 alone). But I do think that keeping them sealed for the long-term at your price-point, which is what you're doing, will net you more (as long as you're still able to make other plays and all your funds aren't tied up into these sets because more opportunities will come).

Regarding in-store success, at least you've had some. Some people haven't had any success. You've got to remind yourself to look at the positive side of things!

[ccrab1984]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

any AC color?

I got a blue and a red if you need either. I wanna keep one you can pick which one you want. Assuming you mean Caruso...

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

Without looking, it was something like that. Meanwhile, he was buying sets to keep sealed (he's admitted he didn't get any on the target stocks). But this seems like a very recent revelation for moss (that he should keep them sealed).

Sure, sure.

I think most know by now not to take Moss seriously when he's dishing wax advice.


He's either a low level troll, Prozac's top customer, or both.

[Mahomie]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

Sorry your "grown up responsibilities" are keeping you from making tens of thousands of dollars worth of profit for what would less than 100 hours work. What I think is really funny about the people saying they are holding sealed cause they don't want to do the leg work why instead of buying dozens of these sets didn't you just buy 2 or 3 of the /149 sets? If these premium stocks sets rise 3-4 times in value obviously the /149 sets are most likely gonna have a similar rise.

Originally Posted by mossoholic

I'm not cracking because at this point I know I'm going to lose or make as little as possible either way. If I piece out now something will happen where I'll lose the money one way or the other.

[bigjbasketball]

Moss is definitely trolling us all at this point...best to just ignore and move on.

I had to pick up a few things today since stores will be closed tomorrow, and I thought to myself, hey why not check a couple stores on my route to see what’s there. I walked in and out of 2 Targets and 2 Walmarts and the card sections were decimated. Nothing but WWE Finest, Donruss Racing, and some Magic The Gathering stuff. It was a good reminder why I stopped wasting my time checking stores. Need to get lucky with an online drop or just pay resale for the foreseeable future.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by ccrab1984

I got a blue and a red if you need either. I wanna keep one you can pick which one you want. Assuming you mean Caruso...

i do mean Caruso!

I have those two already, but thank you for thinking of me

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

I think most know by now not to take Moss seriously when he's dishing wax advice.


He's either a low level troll, Prozac's top customer, or both.

ive learned to do the opposite of what he says

[mcwildcats]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

I think most know by now not to take Moss seriously when he's dishing wax advice.


He's either a low level troll, Prozac's top customer, or both.

I've found his happiness seems to be inversely proportional to my wax finds. Can't we all just be happy this time of the year?

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

ive learned to do the opposite of what he says

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Originally Posted by mcwildcats

I've found his happiness seems to be inversely proportional to my wax finds. Can't we all just be happy this time of the year?

This 'HODL and chapter 11' mindset seems to be his new beartrap strategy to gain leverage on the happy riches crew.

Would love to be a fly on the wall at he and k13's weekly strategic meetings. Like Colin Powell and George W draped in all black listening to Jeremy's Spoken.

Some people just want to see the world burn.

[Geoj]

And someone tried to tell me this thread hasn’t taken crazy turns....

[coltsnsox07]

Where did all the /149 sets go? I've only seen a few opened and one sealed one on ebay.
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[hmballin]

Pretty cool Durant /49




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