Topps 582 Montgomery Club

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by glassofwater

We all get a free month! Does that mean Brooklyn collection soon?

Would be funny if they extend us by an extra month without making any products available to us.

That'd be the Topps way lol.

[cj828282]

Originally Posted by kingchromium24

Interesting with the free month......so maybe these..

All-Star RC Cup
Logofractor
Brooklyn Collection

Thinking Brooklyn Collection for sure. ASRC may come back from hiatus but not sure. Logofractor is long gone but can always wish. Maybe Minis still on the table or something new.

Still TCU Sapphire which I think will be soon and would be great if offered as a MC pre-sale.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by ndwatso

I feel like they had to "extend the club" because they are currently in breach of their contract with us as they have not offered:

2022-23 Topps Chrome Bundesliga Sapphire Edition
2023 Topps Garbage Pail Kids GPK Sapphire Edition

to us. I know that they have shafted us multiple times over this, but they made it clear these would be pre-sales.

Hoping the changes are getting rid of the presale, adding more sets back and making Brooklyn exclusive to just the members!

Don't worry, they'll make it up by giving you Fanatics Live credit.

Code will be: "BREACHXXXX"

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by kingchromium24

Interesting with the free month......so maybe these..

All-Star RC Cup
Logofractor
Brooklyn Collection

Would love to get some boxes of 2023 BC.

[bub838]

Originally Posted by ndwatso

I feel like they had to "extend the club" because they are currently in breach of their contract with us as they have not offered:

2022-23 Topps Chrome Bundesliga Sapphire Edition
2023 Topps Garbage Pail Kids GPK Sapphire Edition

to us. I know that they have shafted us multiple times over this, but they made it clear these would be pre-sales.

Hoping the changes are getting rid of the presale, adding more sets back and making Brooklyn exclusive to just the members!

This is probably the answer. They extended it through December to make these two items available because it was originally promised. I find it hard to believe after a year of underwhelming and overpriced offerings they’re going to magically dump logo, Brooklyn or any other favorite in the last four weeks of the year.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by ndwatso

I feel like they had to "extend the club" because they are currently in breach of their contract with us as they have not offered:

2022-23 Topps Chrome Bundesliga Sapphire Edition
2023 Topps Garbage Pail Kids GPK Sapphire Edition

to us. I know that they have shafted us multiple times over this, but they made it clear these would be pre-sales.

Hoping the changes are getting rid of the presale, adding more sets back and making Brooklyn exclusive to just the members!

Originally Posted by bub838

This is probably the answer. They extended it through December to make these two items available because it was originally promised. I find it hard to believe after a year of underwhelming and overpriced offerings they’re going to magically dump logo, Brooklyn or any other favorite in the last four weeks of the year.

Per wording, there wouldn't be any "breach" of contract as they have the right to alter/remove products from presale list.



Honestly, I think it's as simple as this => End club in December (full calendar year) instead of awkwardly in November.

[bub838]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Honestly, I think it's as simple as this => End club in December (full calendar year) instead of awkwardly in November.

If it’s as simple as that I don’t think they’d have sent an email notifying us of a free month for nothing.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by bub838

If it’s as simple as that I don’t think they’d have sent an email notifying us of a free month for nothing.

I mean, they'll still probably give us pre-sale access to the same stuff they planned to give us pre-sale access to but they don't have to grant us pre-sale access to the 2 aforementioned Sapphire products. They protected themselves with the way they worded the contract.

I really think it just made more sense for them to run the club from Jan to Dec. The "free" month is to make us feel better (as if we're gaining something) and it does give them extra time to deliver on the original club offerings but they're not obligated to do so.

Shoot, maybe I've just become jaded by Topps/Fanatics and assume the worst now lol

[bub838]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

I mean, they'll still probably give us pre-sale access to the same stuff they planned to give us pre-sale access to but they don't have to grant us pre-sale access to the 2 aforementioned Sapphire products. They protected themselves with the way they worded the contract.

I really think it just made more sense for them to run the club from Jan to Dec. The "free" month is to make us feel better (as if we're gaining something) and it does give them extra time to deliver on the original club offerings but they're not obligated to do so.

Shoot, maybe I've just become jaded by Topps/Fanatics and assume the worst now lol

For sure, I’m assuming the worst too. Would be cool if they gave us logofractor…

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Per wording, there wouldn't be any "breach" of contract as they have the right to alter/remove products from presale list.



Honestly, I think it's as simple as this => End club in December (full calendar year) instead of awkwardly in November.

But that doesn't allow the tin foil hat crowd to chime in, so....

[ewokpelts]

Extra month before they shut it down?!

[MattKC]

Not that Topps is looking for any feedback, but I would like to see the MC Club in 2024:

1) Keep offering the discounted price vs public release (in combination with #2)
2) Allow MC Pre-sale to purchase the same max that the public sale will have. If public sale allows for 2 boxes per customer, let us get 2 boxes in pre-sale. Customer max can stay the same so MC members are not getting extra boxes in this scenario.
3) Bring back a few of the exclusive sets sent to MC members as in prior years. The first set this year was pointless and the complete set is a given so create something special for the MC members to help bring the club back to being unique and valuable.

I think 2023 was an ok value for the price....not great but not terrible. Of the two outstanding products I would probably only buy the GPK and maybe not even that given we are down to what, series 6 now? The extra products were a nice gesture, but not good products IMO....cough, sapphire tennis, cough. I will probably rejoin for 2024 assuming the price is not crazy and it is not watered down any more than it was for 2023.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by MattKC

Not that Topps is looking for any feedback, but I would like to see the MC Club in 2024:

1) Keep offering the discounted price vs public release (in combination with #2)
2) Allow MC Pre-sale to purchase the same max that the public sale will have. If public sale allows for 2 boxes per customer, let us get 2 boxes in pre-sale. Customer max can stay the same so MC members are not getting extra boxes in this scenario.
3) Bring back a few of the exclusive sets sent to MC members as in prior years. The first set this year was pointless and the complete set is a given so create something special for the MC members to help bring the club back to being unique and valuable.

I think 2023 was an ok value for the price....not great but not terrible. Of the two outstanding products I would probably only buy the GPK and maybe not even that given we are down to what, series 6 now? The extra products were a nice gesture, but not good products IMO....cough, sapphire tennis, cough. I will probably rejoin for 2024 assuming the price is not crazy and it is not watered down any more than it was for 2023.

2023 was great value. Pretty sure I covered (or got really close) club cost with reselling a number of 582 allocation. Basically got a bunch of sets for free (or really low cost).

[Bcr]

Originally Posted by MattKC

Not that Topps is looking for any feedback, but I would like to see the MC Club in 2024:

1) Keep offering the discounted price vs public release (in combination with #2)
2) Allow MC Pre-sale to purchase the same max that the public sale will have. If public sale allows for 2 boxes per customer, let us get 2 boxes in pre-sale. Customer max can stay the same so MC members are not getting extra boxes in this scenario.
3) Bring back a few of the exclusive sets sent to MC members as in prior years. The first set this year was pointless and the complete set is a given so create something special for the MC members to help bring the club back to being unique and valuable.

I think 2023 was an ok value for the price....not great but not terrible. Of the two outstanding products I would probably only buy the GPK and maybe not even that given we are down to what, series 6 now? The extra products were a nice gesture, but not good products IMO....cough, sapphire tennis, cough. I will probably rejoin for 2024 assuming the price is not crazy and it is not watered down any more than it was for 2023.

I agree with most of this. Just giving us a discount and same allotment as public would be great. I would also prefer rarity in the exclusive sets like parallels, SPs, autos etc.. As a sapphire junky, give us back Bowman Sapphire.

[cj828282]

How about a MC chrome complete black atomic/sapphire set with 1/1's randomly inserted!

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by cj828282

How about a MC chrome complete black atomic/sapphire set with 1/1's randomly inserted!

Now you’re talking!!

[Archimedes]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Would be funny if they extend us by an extra month without making any products available to us.

That'd be the Topps way lol.

I could totally see this. Amazing.

[cj828282]

I think there are too many products that could drop for that to happen but yes I could see that.

[ndwatso]

Wouldn't it be fun if we got our pins!

[Mattsurewood]

Originally Posted by cj828282

How about a MC chrome complete black atomic/sapphire set with 1/1's randomly inserted!

I like this idea!

Also--maybe instead of the 20 card sets they send out, just do one autographed card with MC logo on it sent out annually to the members...BUT, have the auto card tiered based on length of membership...those of us who have been members continually since year 1 get an Ohtani/Jeter/Trout-type auto for the year, and on further down to first-year members, who get an auto of a star player but not as huge..the cards could be serial-numbered as well, to show how many members there are, and it would promote "length of membership" in the Club..the 6-year members get the Ohtani auto, serial numbered to 125 or whatever, so you know that's how many members there are that have been here since the beginning and never left..kind of a "Club Loyalty/Tenure" thing...

[1977 Cloth]

Originally Posted by Mattsurewood

I like this idea!

Also--maybe instead of the 20 card sets they send out, just do one autographed card with MC logo on it sent out annually to the members...BUT, have the auto card tiered based on length of membership...those of us who have been members continually since year 1 get an Ohtani/Jeter/Trout-type auto for the year, and on further down to first-year members, who get an auto of a star player but not as huge..the cards could be serial-numbered as well, to show how many members there are, and it would promote "length of membership" in the Club..the 6-year members get the Ohtani auto, serial numbered to 125 or whatever, so you know that's how many members there are that have been here since the beginning and never left..kind of a "Club Loyalty/Tenure" thing...

Interesting, but not gonna happen.

[fsu2007]

So no presell for Monty members on update sapphire

[cj828282]

Originally Posted by fsu2007

So no presell for Monty members on update sapphire

Not on the list. I heard it was supposed to release on Friday. But looks like it could be tomorrow.

[Bcr]

The "list" is pointless. Topps gives or withholds whatever products they want.

[cj828282]

True. But I have doubts this will be offered to MC members. With 3 parallels and 1 auto this could be offered in the Bowman Sapphire range that was offered earlier in the year. But since TCU probably not that high.