Connor Bedard

[cholodolo]

Connor is lucky the Paul Kariya treatment is expressly prohibited.

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by cholodolo

Connor is lucky the Paul Kariya treatment is expressly prohibited.

Kariya/Selanne in todays NHL would make McDavid/Draisaitl look like traffic pylons.

[razorsharp]

He has to shoot more. He's gone 2 out of the last 3 games without a single SOG. Not gonna get it done.

Just for context, Auston Matthews his rookie season had at least 1 SOG in every single game (and he played all 82).

[kellmuff]

Originally Posted by anusinha

Kariya/Selanne in todays NHL would make McDavid/Draisaitl look like traffic pylons.

lol stop

Re Bedard. Said it at the draft but Chicago was the worst team for him to go to in the short term (arguably the long term too but that's more up for debate)

What isnt up for debate is that he has no one to play with, and no #1 centre in front of him to help shelter him a bit.

Had he went to Anaheim, Columbus, Montreal, etc. he would have had much better teammates and others to take pressure off him

Going to be a long year.

[cholodolo]

Originally Posted by kellmuff

lol stop

Re Bedard. Said it at the draft but Chicago was the worst team for him to go to in the short term (arguably the long term too but that's more up for debate)

What isnt up for debate is that he has no one to play with, and no #1 centre in front of him to help shelter him a bit.

Had he went to Anaheim, Columbus, Montreal, etc. he would have had much better teammates and others to take pressure off him

Going to be a long year.

The Blackhawks deserve the beatings.

[valleynuckfan]

Originally Posted by kellmuff

lol stop

Re Bedard. Said it at the draft but Chicago was the worst team for him to go to in the short term (arguably the long term too but that's more up for debate)

What isnt up for debate is that he has no one to play with, and no #1 centre in front of him to help shelter him a bit.

Had he went to Anaheim, Columbus, Montreal, etc. he would have had much better teammates and others to take pressure off him

Going to be a long year.

agreed on all counts, especially the Kariya comments.
I'm a huge fan of good local kid Paul and he was a brilliant skater and playmaker until he got decimated in the NHL to the point that the sourness still remains.
But he wasn't McDavid.
https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awrj...NyzKewrlEnBrc-

[WallyatJCCards]

Is Bedard in Series 1 Hockey this year or only as a insert type of thing and his YG will be in Series 2?

[smanzari]

Originally Posted by WallyatJCCards

Is Bedard in Series 1 Hockey this year or only as a insert type of thing and his YG will be in Series 2?

A tough insert type thing. YGs will be in S2

[ThatGuyPal]

Guess it's a good thing he has leeway until his YG releases to really go off since no one seems to be paying attention until then lol

Bedard scores again tonight, and it counts this time

[Dave34]

Wrong thread

[anusinha]

Kids got a real nice shot when he gets space, teams need to play a tight D on him

[codered]

Well…….that was fast lol #4

[anusinha]

Can he play goal too?

[mbrahv1984]

How is this thread so dead? Is it because no cards real cards are out yet (yes I know about the late addition into series 1).

[The_Reverend]

He is scoring on a regular basis and the only reasons he is not being talked about more is his lack of cards and there being no desire to bring attention to him from non-hickey people. Currently the focus of many of the investor types is on non-nba JERSEY cards of VICTOR.

[NotGoSportsBall]

IMO it also has to do with the fact that he hasn’t really stood out amongst the other rookies in the class. He’s hovering right around that 7-8 point area that is also occupied by 10 other rookies.

[Satan]

Originally Posted by NotGoSportsBall

IMO it also has to do with the fact that he hasn’t really stood out amongst the other rookies in the class. He’s hovering right around that 7-8 point area that is also occupied by 10 other rookies.

Yep - so far he is meeting expectations (maybe underperforming...) but definitely not blowing anyone away (literally) like McDavid did in 15-16 before his injury. This is mostly because Bedard is playing with a bunch of retirees.

I think most people were expecting 60+ points. 10 games into the season, Bedard's pace is 57 in 82 games.

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by Satan

Yep - so far he is meeting expectations (maybe underperforming...) but definitely not blowing anyone away (literally) like McDavid did in 15-16 before his injury. This is mostly because Bedard is playing with a bunch of retirees.

I think most people were expecting 60+ points. 10 games into the season, Bedard's pace is 57 in 82 games.

When do the blackhawks play the sharks?

[ZappBrannigan]

Originally Posted by The_Reverend

He is scoring on a regular basis and the only reasons he is not being talked about more is his lack of cards and there being no desire to bring attention to him from non-hickey people. Currently the focus of many of the investor types is on non-nba JERSEY cards of VICTOR.

This is good news the aisles will be clear of the investor types buying Kraft dinner, Diet Coke and cards.

[fjf31970]

FIRST-ROUND COMPARISONS
Here's how Bedard stacks up points-wise through 11 games compared to some other No. 1 forward picks (year they were selected):

Patrick Kane, Blackhawks (2007): 14 points (four goals, 10 assists)
Connor McDavid, Edmonton Oilers (2015): 12 points (five goals, seven assists)
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Oilers (2011): 11 points (five goals, six assists)
Auston Matthews, Toronto Maple Leafs (2016): 10 points (six goals, four assists)
John Tavares, New York Islanders (2009): eight points (four goals, four assists)
Connor Bedard, Blackhawks (2023): seven points (five goals, two assists)
Nico Hischier, New Jersey Devils (2017): seven points (two goals, five assists)
Nathan MacKinnon, Colorado Avalanche (2013): seven points (one goal, six assists)
Jack Hughes, New Jersey Devils (2019): six points (two goals, four assists)
Taylor Hall, Oilers (2010): six points (three goals, three assists)
Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning (2008): four points (two goals, two assists)

[kluke84]

Equivalent of 2 games of a rookie football season. Looks good to me. LCS pushed UD 2 hard today as a big deal. Singles the way to go.

[kellmuff]

Bedard is going to struggle to put up big numbers as long as he is playing with this roster. It's one of the worst of the cap era.

[Bcr]

It would be great if Series 2 presell prices would reflect reality. Wishful thinking I know.

[slightlyrounded]

Originally Posted by Bcr

It would be great if Series 2 presell prices would reflect reality. Wishful thinking I know.

The rookie class is absolutely stacked, PLUS we've got the introduction of 1/1s and a bunch of other short-print YGs. I personally think the hobby prices should command a massive premium to previous years.

[CalderCityCards]

Originally Posted by kellmuff

Bedard is going to struggle to put up big numbers as long as he is playing with this roster. It's one of the worst of the cap era.

I don't disagree with this, but he's also basically on a 40 goal / 80 point pace as an 18yr old, 11 games into his NHL career. The ridiculousness of expectations and how some folks are measuring "success" & "living up to the hype" is hilarious.....