First Buzz: 2022 Panini Prizm WWE cards (will update) - Page 17

Bowman1951 · 04-04-2022, 10:43 AM

If this could turn back into a WWE Prizm discussion and not somebody's unwanted opinion HERE about F1 cards, that'd be ggggrrreeeeaaaattt.

fordcollector · 04-04-2022, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowman1951

If this could turn back into a WWE Prizm discussion and not somebody's unwanted opinion HERE about F1 cards, that'd be ggggrrreeeeaaaattt.

lol, on a side note i got my tracking for FOTL, will be here tomorrow!!!

fordcollector · 04-04-2022, 11:21 AM

looks like first breakker rc listed on ebay

mossoholic · 04-04-2022, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnocahoma

Don’t have any friends that are into collecting. I do have a couple friends who bought F1 stock within the last year so F1 is definitely getting more attention.

Are you reading anything this guy is posting? You are just proving everything he says is 100% correct. People are not collecting F1. They are buying it as they see it as an investment they can make money on. People don't know or care about F1. They are buying it to make money. Doesn't mean it can't work. It has worked for a bunch of stocks I know that.

To be fair the whole "hobby" right now is pretty similar. I've said it a million times. 2018 the hobby was 98% collector 2% investor. Now it's 2% collector 98% investor. F1 is probably at least 99.5% investor.

I don't think anyone besides maybe the super rich are paying $1000 a box for WWE Prizm hobby boxes to rip and collect the cards. I don't think people bought WWE Prizm FOTL boxes for $1200-$1500 to rip to collect. They are buying it as an investment.

mossoholic · 04-04-2022, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mrchipz

You know honestly i dont know and would love to know that as well.
I would not think so though since ive never seen a Hogan card with the same image on it ever and he has 100s.
I just think they got lazy as usual, but good point.

Thanks for your posts. I think you're basically spot on with everything you wrote.

Bowman1951 · 04-04-2022, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fordcollector

looks like first breakker rc listed on ebay

Really curious how they already have this in hand as the only one. Unless they won it in the GPS Live break a few nights ago.

fordcollector · 04-04-2022, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowman1951

Really curious how they already have this in hand as the only one. Unless they won it in the GPS Live break a few nights ago.

yeah either that or LCS sold early i know quite a few lcs that have theirs in hand now

ATLOTP · 04-04-2022, 02:18 PM

FOTL shipped. should be interesting to see how the parallels sell. on another note I don't understand why k13 comes here since I've seen many of his posts and he doesn't seem to genuinely enjoy anything

fordcollector · 04-04-2022, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ATLOTP

FOTL shipped. should be interesting to see how the parallels sell. on another note I don't understand why k13 comes here since I've seen many of his posts and he doesn't seem to genuinely enjoy anything

lol exactly my thoughts, just hating life its sad to see

mfisher27 · 04-04-2022, 02:33 PM

Any guesses on what the regular hobby will be listed for on Panini's website on Wednesday?

UFC "sold out" at $899 but I don't know if that sold out or they pulled it. I wasn't paying attention to when it went live vs. showed out of stock.

If that sold out at $899, that's 10% cheaper than Blowout's current pricing.

Over/Under $750 for WWE Prizm?

*unless it's been posted somewhere besides the Panini app and this is already known*

indyguy · 04-04-2022, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mfisher27

Any guesses on what the regular hobby will be listed for on Panini's website on Wednesday?

UFC "sold out" at $899 but I don't know if that sold out or they pulled it. I wasn't paying attention to when it went live vs. showed out of stock.

If that sold out at $899, that's 10% cheaper than Blowout's current pricing.

Over/Under $750 for WWE Prizm?

*unless it's been posted somewhere besides the Panini app and this is already known*

My LCS will have it at $850 pre-order, so that means it will be $875 - $900 in the shop after pre-orders are filled.

PoPCulture · 04-04-2022, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fordcollector

looks like first breakker rc listed on ebay

The sellers’ photo or scan sucks. Don’t see the point in being first to market while using an image that makes the card look pretty scratched up.

Between that and his 7-word description, he’s not doing himself any favors. Kinda forces potential buyers into making their own assumptions. Some people can’t seem to dedicate more than 2 minutes to a listing these days.

fordcollector · 04-04-2022, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PoPCulture

The sellers’ photo or scan sucks. Don’t see the point in being first to market while using an image that makes the card look pretty scratched up.

Between that and his 7-word description, he’s not doing himself any favors. Kinda forces potential buyers into making their own assumptions. Some people can’t seem to dedicate more than 2 minutes to a listing these days.

yeah noticed that the description i could care less about, but make sure its a good photo atleast front and back, however it will sell way to high first to market always wins

CharlieHustle · 04-04-2022, 03:05 PM

Anyone wanna guess what the "average" price for a Bron base RC will be after a full week of sales? $20? $50? $100.

I think this is a $50 base card and within 2 years will be no less than $100.

Feel like this could be an iconic card. Like if Topps Chrome debuted the same year Cena was a RC.

fordcollector · 04-04-2022, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieHustle

Anyone wanna guess what the "average" price for a Bron base RC will be after a full week of sales? $20? $50? $100.

I think this is a $50 base card and within 2 years will be no less than $100.

Feel like this could be an iconic card. Like if Topps Chrome debuted the same year Cena was a RC.

yeah i think first few will do over 100 settle in the 50-60 range I can see his big colors doing huge money

mrchipz · 04-05-2022, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mossoholic

Thanks for your posts. I think you're basically spot on with everything you wrote.

Thank you.

kdog4187 · 04-05-2022, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fordcollector

yeah i think first few will do over 100 settle in the 50-60 range I can see his big colors doing huge money

It all depends on Breaker... I think everyone is counting on him like he is a sure fire bet to be the next big star. The reality is this kid has all the tools but has been wrestling on TV less then a year. I have seen WWE blow this exact same story dozens of times over. Breaker is great no doubt but he is far from a finished product. He could be the next Cena or the next Karrion Kross. It's just way to early to tell with him. Although I do agree that out of the gate his cards will be the one to get and probably in that 50- 100 dollar range.

CharlieHustle · 04-05-2022, 04:06 AM

nvm..................

yea yea · 04-05-2022, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kdog4187

It all depends on Breaker... I think everyone is counting on him like he is a sure fire bet to be the next big star. The reality is this kid has all the tools but has been wrestling on TV less then a year. I have seen WWE blow this exact same story dozens of times over. Breaker is great no doubt but he is far from a finished product. He could be the next Cena or the next Karrion Kross. It's just way to early to tell with him. Although I do agree that out of the gate his cards will be the one to get and probably in that 50- 100 dollar range.

Am I crazy to think Gable Steveson will outsell Bron? This is Gable's first trading card. Hes a Gold Medalist, multiple time NCAA champ. If WWE doesn't work out for whatever reason, UFC will be there.

nera20 · 04-05-2022, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jmarascojr

shooooooshhhhh!!!!!! :d

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Originally Posted by yea yea

Am I crazy to think Gable Steveson will outsell Bron? This is Gable's first trading card. Hes a Gold Medalist, multiple time NCAA champ. If WWE doesn't work out for whatever reason, UFC will be there.

Gable in my opinion doesn't have a good look and doesn't throw it factor vide like Brock and Angle did in the past but i am hoping i am wrong . Bron has the look and legacy but is lacking the crowd interaction and still needs the seasoning in the ring.

Both are going to be given a chance so i hope that WWE can build up two new future stars.

Super32 · 04-05-2022, 07:58 AM

As a huge amateur wrestling fan I hope Gable makes it. I personally think AJ Ferrari is going to be a better prospect though if he goes the WWE route.

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Originally Posted by nera20

Gable in my opinion doesn't have a good look and doesn't throw it factor vide like Brock and Angle did in the past but i am hoping i am wrong . Bron has the look and legacy but is lacking the crowd interaction and still needs the seasoning in the ring.

Both are going to be given a chance so i hope that WWE can build up two new future stars.

MTBRM · 04-05-2022, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by yea yea

Am I crazy to think Gable Steveson will outsell Bron? This is Gable's first trading card. Hes a Gold Medalist, multiple time NCAA champ. If WWE doesn't work out for whatever reason, UFC will be there.

Gable is a POS who dodged a rape case due to an insane Minnesota loophole

https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSt...sault-67855516

mnvikingstwins · 04-05-2022, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MTBRM

Gable is a POS who dodged a rape case due to an insane Minnesota loophole

https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSt...sault-67855516

He didn't "dodge" it and didn't rape anyone. Try reading the actual facts before trying to smear his character

Steveson and Martinez were arrested in June on suspicion of criminal sexual conduct. They were released from jail without being charged, but the investigation remained open. Few details have been released in order to protect the victim, according to Freeman. He did say the Minneapolis sex crimes unit conducted a “very thorough” and “complete” investigation.

“In the interest of justice, there is inadequate evidence to fairly charge and prosecute this case,” he said on Dec. 20 in a press conference announcing the decision.

PrinceVegeta · 04-05-2022, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

He didn't "dodge" it and didn't rape anyone. Try reading the actual facts before trying to smear his character

Steveson and Martinez were arrested in June on suspicion of criminal sexual conduct. They were released from jail without being charged, but the investigation remained open. Few details have been released in order to protect the victim, according to Freeman. He did say the Minneapolis sex crimes unit conducted a “very thorough” and “complete” investigation.

“In the interest of justice, there is inadequate evidence to fairly charge and prosecute this case,” he said on Dec. 20 in a press conference announcing the decision.

Oh you live in Minneapolis.. all anyone needs to know

MTBRM · 04-05-2022, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

He didn't "dodge" it and didn't rape anyone. Try reading the actual facts before trying to smear his character

Steveson and Martinez were arrested in June on suspicion of criminal sexual conduct. They were released from jail without being charged, but the investigation remained open. Few details have been released in order to protect the victim, according to Freeman. He did say the Minneapolis sex crimes unit conducted a “very thorough” and “complete” investigation.

“In the interest of justice, there is inadequate evidence to fairly charge and prosecute this case,” he said on Dec. 20 in a press conference announcing the decision.

So let me spell it out clearer for you then:

"When speaking to the media, Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman hinted that alcohol may have been involved. He also stated that under Minnesota’s current laws at the time on intoxication and a victim’s ability to give consent, Hennepin County Attorney’s Office “would restricted in how it could bring charges in the case”.

He later went one to state that “In neighboring Wisconsin, Freeman said, prosecutors have broad discretion to charge suspects who know or should know that someone's alcohol consumption can impair his or her ability to give consent. He said he and others have pushed Minnesota lawmakers to pass similar legislation but have been unsuccessful so far.”

So what's the law in your own state of Minnesota you ask?

"A person who is sexually assaulted while intoxicated isn't considered "mentally incapacitated" if he or she consumed alcohol or drugs voluntarily"

...and after protests, just last year, this loophole that helped him avoid charges, was repealed:
https://www.twincities.com/2021/06/3...e-in-rape-law/

Try looking into the actual facts yourself before you blindly defend someone who doesn't even know you exist.

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Bowman1951 Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Boston 'Burbs Posts: 4,717 djblitz Bowman1951	If this could turn back into a WWE Prizm discussion and not somebody's unwanted opinion HERE about F1 cards, that'd be ggggrrreeeeaaaattt. __________________ I am the head promoter of one of the most successful Saturday monthly card shows in New England. https://flippincardshow.com/

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mfisher27 Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: North Canton, OH Posts: 5,480 mfisher27	Any guesses on what the regular hobby will be listed for on Panini's website on Wednesday? UFC "sold out" at $899 but I don't know if that sold out or they pulled it. I wasn't paying attention to when it went live vs. showed out of stock. If that sold out at $899, that's 10% cheaper than Blowout's current pricing. Over/Under $750 for WWE Prizm? unless it's been posted somewhere besides the Panini app and this is already known __________________ It’s prolly a 70/49 split. -Mike TheCleaner

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CharlieHustle Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,532 nvsportscards702	nvm.................. Last edited by CharlieHustle; 04-05-2022 at 04:12 AM.

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fordcollector Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Mass Posts: 178 cardsncash82	looks like first breakker rc listed on ebay

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ATLOTP Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 819 snuurd	FOTL shipped. should be interesting to see how the parallels sell. on another note I don't understand why k13 comes here since I've seen many of his posts and he doesn't seem to genuinely enjoy anything

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CharlieHustle Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,532 nvsportscards702	Anyone wanna guess what the "average" price for a Bron base RC will be after a full week of sales? $20? $50? $100. I think this is a $50 base card and within 2 years will be no less than $100. Feel like this could be an iconic card. Like if Topps Chrome debuted the same year Cena was a RC.