Potential Worth of Soccer Cards as Market Grows

[IndySportsCards]

Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

Stickers we equate to junk wax.

Rumor is, not only will Erling have an auto in Bundesliga Chrome, but so will Jadon Sancho! now that would be awesome

[GrangerCollectr]

Thought we would start to see some prices go down with the Coronavirus spreading....but looks like prices continue to stay the same or continue to rise in some cases (specifically Mbappe and Jadon Sancho).

I'm now curious to see if new releases will be pushed back such as Topps Finest, Chrome Bundesliga, etc....

[ThoseBackPages]

the only dealer with 2018 Donruss wax has doubled their pricing in the last week

[GrangerCollectr]

Yeah, if you can find 2018 Donruss hobby still in the $100-$110 per box range....it's worth it!

Some new records for Mbappe today as a base Topps Chrome PSA 10 rookie sold for $200 and a Topps Chrome Refractor PSA 9 sold for $299.99.
Topps Chrome just keeps creeping up every week in value and I still think his Select rookie could be the biggest sleeper of them all.

[fadster]

His market is booming, last 3 Psa 10 2016 Foot France have gone for $700, $700 & $695 too.

It's a shame Euro 2020 has been postponed till next year, a good performance there would have added further fuel to the fire. I wonder how much Euro 2020 stuff got printed will be binned? Euro 2020 Adrenalyn has been on sale for the kids for a month or so, it will be interesting to see if that's recalled now. If we have a window of normality in the summer we might be looking at a truncated (1-legged neutral venue) Champions League and or league playoffs which might be fun.

[IndySportsCards]

The rise of 2018 Prizm Mbappe RC PSA 10 sales

Jan 10 2020 - $44.99
Jan 22 2020 - $216.00
March 2 2020 - $280.00
March 16 2020 - $366.00

[ThoseBackPages]

how great is that?

[cruiserdaddy7]

Chrome Mbappe raw seem to be doing well. These don't seem to be slowing down at all. The sealed products will keep rising as well.

[k13]

Mbappe is doing nothing and his cards getting pumped and schilled to the max.

This will be as good as when people paid $600 for Messi Select tie Dye's and hundreds for james Rodriguez wc autos.
All the Pulsic craze...

Hopefully it will be majority garyvee sheep that get burned buying a $2 card for $200

[dream34]

Originally Posted by k13

Mbappe is doing nothing and his cards getting pumped and schilled to the max.

This will be as good as when people paid $600 for Messi Select tie Dye's and hundreds for james Rodriguez wc autos.
All the Pulsic craze...

Hopefully it will be majority garyvee sheep that get burned buying a $2 card for $200

The Optics (& Prizms to a certain extent) I can't fully wrap my head around but the Topps Chrome is totally understandable. Just a ton of upside on those. I guess Prizm is because the hype on the Giannis/Luka/Zion Prizm RC Levels. Imagine if those guys had Topps Chrome RCs lol.

[Raj3sh]

Originally Posted by dream34

The Optics (& Prizms to a certain extent) I can't fully wrap my head around but the Topps Chrome is totally understandable. Just a ton of upside on those. I guess Prizm is because the hype on the Giannis/Luka/Zion Prizm RC Levels. Imagine if those guys had Topps Chrome RCs lol.

This is the correct observation. The select and chromes were already on a high price when investors came in. So they wanted an easy route to the market and went after the prizms.

[GrangerCollectr]

Originally Posted by dream34

The Optics (& Prizms to a certain extent) I can't fully wrap my head around but the Topps Chrome is totally understandable. Just a ton of upside on those. I guess Prizm is because the hype on the Giannis/Luka/Zion Prizm RC Levels. Imagine if those guys had Topps Chrome RCs lol.

Nailed it. Topps Chrome and Select absolutely make sense and still have tons of upside.

[spotted penguins]

Originally Posted by dream34

The Optics (& Prizms to a certain extent) I can't fully wrap my head around but the Topps Chrome is totally understandable. Just a ton of upside on those. I guess Prizm is because the hype on the Giannis/Luka/Zion Prizm RC Levels. Imagine if those guys had Topps Chrome RCs lol.

I firmly believe that Mbappe is on the same tier of "prospect" as Giannis, if not better.

He's definitely the sneakerhead's soccer player of choice, the PSG x Jordan collab, followers on instagram, style of play...he can definitely be the guy who transcends sport and becomes an icon.

[IndySportsCards]

Originally Posted by spotted penguins

I firmly believe that Mbappe is on the same tier of "prospect" as Giannis, if not better.

He's definitely the sneakerhead's soccer player of choice, the PSG x Jordan collab, followers on instagram, style of play...he can definitely be the guy who transcends sport and becomes an icon.

We already have Giannis Drooling all over meeting Mbappe, I think Mbappe is bigger than Giannis.

[Pigo]

Is it me or have prices of 2018 Donruss wax gone crazy in the past week? I was umming and ahhing over Fatpack cases at around $300 the other day and now they have all either sold out or been deprived at closer to $600.

[Ianhatcher]

Originally Posted by Pigo

Is it me or have prices of 2018 Donruss wax gone crazy in the past week? I was umming and ahhing over Fatpack cases at around $300 the other day and now they have all either sold out or been deprived at closer to $600.

Yes, it has. I just bought bunch of boxes to stash away but basically here is what happened. Distributors were forcing breakers to buy 10 cases of Donruss for every case of Eminence so they started breaking A LOT of it but people soon realized man, this PRODUCT is great and has Donruss Optic Silvers which are insanely popular with basketball as well as all the other parallels like Velocity.

The rated rookie list is sick (Sancho, Junior, Kai, Foden, etc) then you have two Mbappe, Messi and CR7 base with holos AND on top of that you have sick dual, triple and quad autos.

It's basically a sick product that people have been ignoring for the past year and now the cat is out of the bag.

[IndySportsCards]

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[spotted penguins]

Originally Posted by IndySportsCards

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Sterling #2?? Really?

[fadster]

There's not a huge difference in value there and little things will jump players up the list. I believe Sterling has a bit more on his contract than some of those other players which adds to his value. Sterling, Neymar and Sancho are quite similar players so it's interesting to see them so close in value. You could make a case for any and it's easy to see each as the best fit for different teams.

[Pigo]

Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

Yes, it has. I just bought bunch of boxes to stash away but basically here is what happened. Distributors were forcing breakers to buy 10 cases of Donruss for every case of Eminence so they started breaking A LOT of it but people soon realized man, this PRODUCT is great and has Donruss Optic Silvers which are insanely popular with basketball as well as all the other parallels like Velocity.

The rated rookie list is sick (Sancho, Junior, Kai, Foden, etc) then you have two Mbappe, Messi and CR7 base with holos AND on top of that you have sick dual, triple and quad autos.

It's basically a sick product that people have been ignoring for the past year and now the cat is out of the bag.

Nuts. Missed the boat. Will just stick to boxes and Foden singles then.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by spotted penguins

I firmly believe that Mbappe is on the same tier of "prospect" as Giannis, if not better.

He's definitely the sneakerhead's soccer player of choice, the PSG x Jordan collab, followers on instagram, style of play...he can definitely be the guy who transcends sport and becomes an icon.

He could be the next Messi/CR7, or he could become "just another striker".

There are literally hundreds of great strikers who have flamed out, had their career derailed by injuries, or simply never made the jump from star to worldwide superstar.

[Akphillips86]

Originally Posted by mfw13

He could be the next Messi/CR7, or he could become "just another striker".

There are literally hundreds of great strikers who have flamed out, had their career derailed by injuries, or simply never made the jump from star to worldwide superstar.

I’ll grant it’s possible he could become just another striker, but Mbappe has a number of things going for him that lead me to strongly believe his stock will continue to rise.

1. He has already won a World Cup in his first appearance with a country that will be very competitive for years to come.

2. His star is shining brighter than Neymar while playing for the same club at PSG (the previously assumed heir to the throne as king of the sport).

3. Messi/CR7’s days are numbered and it won’t take long before people latch on fully to the next big thing (which by the way will also allow Jadon Sancho’s fame to grow).

Now to be fair, could he end up like Fernando Torres and have injuries derail him? Sure, but that’s true of all young players. I would recommend in investing in Mbappe FOR SURE before prices get stupid, but don’t put all your eggs in one basket.

If you follow the sport closely, there are many young talents out there that have previously been named that can be bought at an absolute steal right now. Sancho is no longer a steal, but still a VERY safe bet. Havertz, Vinicius, Foden, and Davies (although injury plagued I would throw Pulisic in there if nothing else just because he has ties to the US and the largest card market) are all steals and high end offerings can be bought with very little risk.

I’m still pleasantly surprised at how well the soccer market has fared given the current global crisis. I believe this is because people realized just how undervalued the soccer market was prior to COVID-19. Now, they still aren’t fazed by dropping a few hundred on a premium PSA 10 Mbappe realizing they could easily surpass a thousand in a few years if Mbappe keeps being Mbappe and there is a full economic recovery. Hopefully this all blows over and games resume sooner rather than later, but all we can do now is be patient and keep our heads.


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[Ianhatcher]

I think he has just as much going against him. He's 21 and yes has a world cup under his belt sure but right now is when he needs to make a move to a bigger club. CR7 at 23ish won his first CL and D'or, Messi won his first CL at what 19 and D'or at what 22?

He can't even dominate a B league and people are paying $7K for a BGS 10 Gold Refractor /50? That's a huge risk and I think people are really going to get burned on this one unless he moves to a big team soon and starts winning some CL and D'ors.

His attitude is a big problem too. The making fun of Haland after PSG outing Dortmund in the CL was just a lack of class and him wanting Messi/CR7 money for his autos isn't helping his case either.

I think people are going big on him because they are looking for that successor to Messi and CR7. We see this in sports all the time when GOATs near the end and it's a huge gamble but I hope the hype stays around long enough for me to get my 20 or so Chrome base/refractors and 10 Prizm rookies back from PSA cause I want to fund some sick CR7 and Messi cards I'll keep a few in case he does make it big but I just wouldn't bet the farm on it. He just doesn't have that wow factor yet for me and not playing on my club, well there is that too.

[Akphillips86]

Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

I think he has just as much going against him. He's 21 and yes has a world cup under his belt sure but right now is when he needs to make a move to a bigger club. CR7 at 23ish won his first CL and D'or, Messi won his first CL at what 19 and D'or at what 22?

He can't even dominate a B league and people are paying $7K for a BGS 10 Gold Refractor /50? That's a huge risk and I think people are really going to get burned on this one unless he moves to a big team soon and starts winning some CL and D'ors.

His attitude is a big problem too. The making fun of Haland after PSG outing Dortmund in the CL was just a lack of class and him wanting Messi/CR7 money for his autos isn't helping his case either.

I think people are going big on him because they are looking for that successor to Messi and CR7. We see this in sports all the time when GOATs near the end and it's a huge gamble but I hope the hype stays around long enough for me to get my 20 or so Chrome base/refractors and 10 Prizm rookies back from PSA cause I want to fund some sick CR7 and Messi cards I'll keep a few in case he does make it big but I just wouldn't bet the farm on it. He just doesn't have that wow factor yet for me and not playing on my club, well there is that too.

You make some valid points regarding Mbappe’s downside. To be honest, I never go in that big on anyone in regards to the gold refractors. I would have to pull one to own one haha.

I do think to some he can come across as arrogant, but that never dampened Ronaldo’s popularity. This is a common trait of dominant athletes, and while I personally have more respect for those that let their play speak for itself, I don’t think in Mbappe’s case it is bad enough to warrant concern.

PSG may not have the legacy of Barcelona, but it’s nothing to be scoffed at. Simply put, it hasn’t seemed to affect Mbappe’s popularity in a negative way.

Something I think that is worth considering with Mbappe’s rookies are the premium options that were not available with Messi and CR7. Imagine a Topps Chrome purple, blue, or gold refractor rookie of Messi or Ronaldo. Those cards would have SCARY price tags.

In summary, would I bet the house on Mbappe and expect him to surpass the juggernauts that are Ronaldo and Messi? No. Would I invest dollars in him expecting financial growth over time given what his cards are currently selling for? Absolutely.


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[IndySportsCards]

Originally Posted by Akphillips86

You make some valid points regarding Mbappe’s downside. To be honest, I never go in that big on anyone in regards to the gold refractors. I would have to pull one to own one haha.

I do think to some he can come across as arrogant, but that never dampened Ronaldo’s popularity. This is a common trait of dominant athletes, and while I personally have more respect for those that let their play speak for itself, I don’t think in Mbappe’s case it is bad enough to warrant concern.

Same here, most low numbered stuff I own I have pulled, I rarely buy it unless I find a deal, and an early deal at that. this can still be done with a lot of the rookies that have been spoken of above (Kai, Vinicius, Phil,etc)..

As far as Mbappe and the razzing of Erling, I would put that on the whole team, it wasn't just Mbappe doing it, and I think it was just a bit of fun they had with it, I don't put too much stock into it, just a bit of ribbing, or as they say in Britain, a bit of Banter.

I thought it was kinda funny myself.