2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[pac213up]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

I'm probably voting Biden but I agree with the banning of Tic Toc and WeChat. I see a lot of folks saying this is horrible or that this politically motivated due to the Tulsa rally. Maybe, but explain why other countries are doing the same thing? When Facebook collects data, they collect it for their use. When Tic Toc collects data, it's for the Chinese government's use. Huge difference in my mind.

Again, like everything else, had Obama done something like this, people on the left would praise him for protecting our data from foreign governments and the people on right would decry it as a violation of our freedoms.

I do not have an issue with banning TikTok at all, it seems like the right decision. I do find it interesting that many people that believe we should have the choice to wear a mask or not in a pandemic in public places do not also support having the choice to decide if we can or should use a social media app though. This selective freedom of choice is confusing.

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

You like the truth that Biden was just as much of a draft dodger as libs get all mad at Trump about. You like the truth that Biden said that Edison didn't invent the light bulb? You like the truth that pretty much everything that Dems hate about Trump and pretty much anyone that dares vote for him that they turn around and do the same thing or worse?

The 2 items you by Biden - yes he got war deferments (5 I think) and at this point we can't confirm or deny them (the same as Trump and his bone spurs)

As for the light bulb - please look up Humphrey Davy (1802 first electric light), look up Joseph Wilson Swan (1850) and Henry Woodward (1874)

Edison patented the incandescent light bulb - however his work was based on the people I linked previously.

[NeedChapmans]

Just wanted to share the '16 rap battle here today as it still holds up excellently from four years ago. (Lincoln clearly NeverTrump but Trump had better lines).

It's good stuff. Makes me smile everytime.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I see now that the BLM co-founder has partnered with China for funding. Not the decision I would have made but c'est la vie.

Honest question, has BLM made life better for anyone of any race? Someone want to point our their greatest achievement in four years of this stuff? What have they done?

I’d say the greatest achievement is racial awareness. I think the average whitey is more likely to be aware of his or her own bias nowadays, whatever that’s worth.

Overall, I believe the effect on black communities has been and will continue to be a net negative. Lower income communities need more good policing, not less funding. Good policing would result in less crime. Less crime would result in those areas attracting more businesses and wealthy individuals/families. Then those economies grow from there. Riots (aka mostly peaceful protests) certainly aren’t helping anyone.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

The 2 items you by Biden - yes he got war deferments (5 I think) and at this point we can't confirm or deny them (the same as Trump and his bone spurs)

As for the light bulb - please look up Humphrey Davy (1802 first electric light), look up Joseph Wilson Swan (1850) and Henry Woodward (1874)

Edison patented the incandescent light bulb - however his work was based on the people I linked previously.

I think the major one was asthma, but yet he was a high school athlete?? My point was the hypocrisy of complaining about one and not the other.

Nice deflection on the light bulb, my point again was Biden didn't mention any of the three you brought up and must of been wrong too on something that doesn't mean much but people continue to bash Trump on the same type of comments, but say Biden is ok.

[gopherfan]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

There's got to be some middle ground between "America is and has always been perfect" and "whitey is evil and everything is evil".

Unfortunately, I'm not seeing it from either end of the spectrum.

I'd be fine if we taught actual history. If we did it and it was bad, put it out there. If we did it and it was good, that's good to talk about as well.

[rhigh2390]

Just wanted to toss this in here and see what happens lol

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by pac213up

I do not have an issue with banning TikTok at all, it seems like the right decision. I do find it interesting that many people that believe we should have the choice to wear a mask or not in a pandemic in public places do not also support having the choice to decide if we can or should use a social media app though. This selective freedom of choice is confusing.

Forcing someone to put something on their body is different then not allowing someone to use an app. I’m fine with masks if a private business requests it.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Just wanted to toss this in here and see what happens lol

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/v...2-afe9fa7759a0

[gopherfan]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Link?

Can't do it. I looked and it happens from lightning, and says that it may happen from wildfire, but that it has never been documented.

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/v...2-afe9fa7759a0

Still trusting the CDC, I see...

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Still trusting the CDC, I see...

No, my faith will protect me.

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

No, my faith will protect me.

Hey! Good for you! I believe that's what has kept me safe this long as well!

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by yanksfan1

2008 Prez: Obama 61, McCain 37
2010 Gov: Brown (D) 54, Whitman (R) 41
2012 Prez: Obama 60, Romney 37
2014 Gov: Brown (D) 60, Kashkari (R) 40
2016 Prez: Clinton 62, Trump 32
2018 Gov: Newsom (D) 62, Cox (R) 38

CA is solid blue for the foreseeable future

Whitman supports Biden now, enthusiastically.
The other two Republicans (Kashkari & Cox) probably do, too.
I get "Recall Newsom" letters occasionally, because I'm still registered "R".
They are hilarious.

[gopherfan]

Originally Posted by jdandns

So you don't consider overt hate speech to be a form of violence?
Interesting.

Hate speech sucks and people shouldn't use it. But remember when it used to be "Sticks and Stones, etc..."?

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Whitman supports Biden now, enthusiastically.
The other two Republicans (Kashkari & Cox) probably do, too.
I get "Recall Newsom" letters occasionally, because I'm still registered "R".
They are hilarious.

You were once a Republican?!?!?!?!

[gopherfan]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Opposition to Trump's policies does not constitute hate speech.
That would require casting derision on the President's ethnicity or sexual preference, for example.

Odd, because when I didn't agree with Obama's policies, I was a racist.

[gopherfan]

Finally caught up. And I don't leave town until next Thursday. 10 days away, how many pages (25 posts per page) behind will I be?

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

The saddest part is that JD could easily just ask you if you hate trans people.

If you genuinely believe that transgenderism is a mental illness (but otherwise harbor no ill feelings towards such individuals) and JD genuinely believes this is incorrect and such misunderstanding creates the conditions for violence, he is morally compelled to address this (perceived) ignorance.

If he chooses instead to simply troll and move on (perhaps with the justification of "well, he's never going to change his mind") and leaves you to continue facilitating violence, then JD would also be complicit in transphobic violence.

In real life, I would try to stop any physical attack on anyone by anyone.
Online, if I hear an attack on orientation, I'll simply point out endless flaws in that, one by one, if need be. (Only needed one this time. Not too shabby!)

I can't help it if someone doesn't like what I'm saying, but assuming people, myself foremost, can always become better, and regularly succeed in doing that, is my very raison d'etre. That's the general motivation for what I write.

I am not trolling and never have, here or elsewhere.
Trolls give no opportunity for rebuttal.
I give nothing but that opportunity.
It's the responses that are generally lacking.

I'm happy with my posts here because unlike those who cut and paste data walls in support of the odd vision that all things in all instances must be made congruent, I simply follow facts where they go.

Someone tell Snooby I had to go to work...

[hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Just wanted to toss this in here and see what happens lol

Wow. Cmon man

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[DegaBama]

I'd support Biden too if I got paid to support him.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by jdandns

I am not trolling and never have, here or elsewhere.
Trolls give no opportunity for rebuttal.
I give nothing but that opportunity.
It's the responses that are generally lacking.



Someone tell Snooby I had to go to work...

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

You were once a Republican?!?!?!?!

Originally registered in '92 an Independent.
Sometime around 2000, it mysteriously switched to Republican.
I've never corrected it as I enjoy irony.

[DegaBama]

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1306815474848673792

And people want to believe the news?

[Yanks23]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Whitman supports Biden now, enthusiastically.
The other two Republicans (Kashkari & Cox) probably do, too.
I get "Recall Newsom" letters occasionally, because I'm still registered "R".
They are hilarious.

I lived in Calli for 10 years coming from East coast. CA is so messed up and they keep voting in the same people. I guess they will never learn. State has so many people and $$ but is totally broke. LA and SF homeless problem is only getting worse after spending how many millions on it. I got out since the taxes, real estate, and everything else are so high plus the traffic.