NBA Top Shot - High Risk, High Reward?

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I did see this gem on the discord:

If we all set our prices at $1M and stop selling they’ll only go up in value.

Some of these boiz lack logic, and ironically will probably be bumping Logic in the Pinto in a few months.

Early retirement like my favorite rapper....shot out to Dapper.

[hopalong]

Originally Posted by sandlotsportcards

I have that one too. Such a nice pass and I also like the Cavs. I bought mine at $28 and at the time thought I was crazy paying $28 for Cedi highlight.

I bought serial #30 or something for a premium $35

[hopalong]

Originally Posted by Vinny1984

Another cool site that ranks you against everyone else and shows your ROI.

https://momentranks.com/

That's interesting. It seems not as up to date as evaluate.market, but it's definitely doing something in terms of trying to anticipate value of lower serials.

Edit: Actually, it might be up to date...still checking

[Vinny1984]

Originally Posted by hopalong

That's interesting. It seems not as up to date as evaluate.market, but it's definitely doing something in terms of trying to anticipate value of lower serials.

Edit: Actually, it might be up to date...still checking

Nah it isn’t even close to being up to date. It looks like it’ll be the best of its kind once they get closer to real-time though.

[Eckstein197]

Still don’t understand Giannis /7500 is still within 100 dollars of the /15000 while most other players with /7500 and /15000 moments have a much much wider percentage of a difference. Lillard is nearly double last I checked between /7500 and /15000

Is it because of the mvp moves set?

[KD35Russ0]

Originally Posted by Eckstein197

Still don’t understand Giannis /7500 is still within 100 dollars of the /15000 while most other players with /7500 and /15000 moments have a much much wider percentage of a difference. Lillard is nearly double last I checked between /7500 and /15000

Is it because of the mvp moves set?

Giannis has a ton of moments already. But I still think you're point is valid. To me all the stars S2 /7500 are wayyyyy undervalued.

[Vinny1984]

Originally Posted by KD35Russ0

Giannis has a ton of moments already. But I still think you're point is valid. To me all the stars S2 /7500 are wayyyyy undervalued.

I think you’re spot on. I’m currently selling off all my /15000 to put into s2 /7500. I still think S1 is out of most people’s comfort zone.

[Eckstein197]

Originally Posted by Vinny1984

I think you’re spot on. I’m currently selling off all my /15000 to put into s2 /7500. I still think S1 is out of most people’s comfort zone.

I agree. I think low end players S1s are good long term plays because they should just steadily increase, but yeah high end players S1s are just so high

[b2k1121]

Originally Posted by Eckstein197

Still don’t understand Giannis /7500 is still within 100 dollars of the /15000 while most other players with /7500 and /15000 moments have a much much wider percentage of a difference. Lillard is nearly double last I checked between /7500 and /15000

Is it because of the mvp moves set?

I think it's as simple as the /15000 is a dunk and the /7500 is an assist. And for anyone that just wants to get a Giannis, the cheapest available is a dunk so it probably has a little more appeal.

[ricefan77]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

So when Panini makes new LeBron James cards his rookies go down in value because there are more available? By your description you absolutely know nothing about Top Shot and your opinions are based on something you know nothing about. Even when they release more of the 15,000 cards, which there are already about half in circulation, a $150 card won't go to a $1. Actually the card could hold its value if more people sign up. I have been telling people this for the last week though. Make money on Series 2 and put the money into Series 1. When a crash happened the last two days, the Series 1 cards were unaffected.

This is the same idea as a ponzi scheme, get new investors so the existing can sell. But those investors aren't cashing out, they are just buying more worthless moments. It's like talking to a brick wall here.

[Eckstein197]

Originally Posted by ricefan77

This is the same idea as a ponzi scheme, get new investors so the existing can sell. But those investors aren't cashing out, they are just buying more worthless moments. It's like talking to a brick wall here.

They obviously aren’t worthless, just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s worthless

When you say their worthless your whole argument becomes pointless because you’re using bias and not actual data

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by ricefan77

This is the same idea as a ponzi scheme, get new investors so the existing can sell. But those investors aren't cashing out, they are just buying more worthless moments. It's like talking to a brick wall here.

So every market is just a Ponzi scheme? Got it!

Someone get Yellen on the line!

[hoopstaj]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

So every market is just a Ponzi scheme? Got it!

Someone get Yellen on the line!

I laughed really hard at this. Love a good Yellen shout out


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[discodanman45]

When the market dips people will come on here to post to say how smart they are. When it goes up they won't pay attention. A market correction was needed and it still may go down more. Roll everything into Series 1 if you can. The populations are more stable. The Season 2 will be traded more because of the higher pops, cheaper prices, and inexperienced people. Watching my Wisemen go up to $2200 is nice. He will be a superstar.

[CKB]

Yeah, all the Series 1 are holding steady. The prices for S2 will go down a bit right now because all the scrubs are costing too much. The market will correct itself. When they release S3 next season with 50,000+ per moment, S2 prices will go up again. For now, just chill and enjoy the wave.

[dany85]

Has anyone been able to transfer money out?


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[al3xmac10]

posted this on BST, but just in case someone only posts here:

Hi, I am looking to trade the card below for a set of (3) NBA Top Shot Moments:

1) item I am trading:
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 2018 Prizm Mojo Auto 14/25 RC BGS 9.5

2) the (3) NBA Top Shot Moments I am looking to trade for:

a) Luka 3 Pointer:
Aug 23 2020
3 Pointer
Base Set (Series 1)
https://www.nbatopshot.com/listings/...8-74de10e550d1

b) Tatum 3 Pointer:
Aug 19 2020
3 Pointer
Base Set (Series 1)
https://www.nbatopshot.com/listings/...a-16185ce703f0

c) Tatum 3 Pointer:
Dec 23 2020
3 Pointer
Season Tip-off (Series 2)
https://www.nbatopshot.com/listings/...0-c9f8c0776b1a

Please let me know, thank you very much!

[ConcordXI]

Originally Posted by dany85

Has anyone been able to transfer money out?


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A question I ask frequently. I've only seen one member on here say they have successfully cashed out. Not saying that others haven't, but they are few and far between.

[gamboooler]

You basically have to be on the site for 2 months to be eligible for withdrawal at this point. Most people in this thread have been on for far less.

[brothertona]

You can cash out, there are people buying dapper balances on Top Shot Broker and the Buy/Sell on the TopShot discord.

[ConcordXI]

Originally Posted by brothertona

You can cash out, there are people buying dapper balances on Top Shot Broker and the Buy/Sell on the TopShot discord.

But are they cashing out from the Dapper site or just being paid by another user for their account?

[brothertona]

Originally Posted by ConcordXI

But are they cashing out from the Dapper site or just being paid by another user for their account?

Another user, you get a middleman. You usually sell for 65 to 75 percent of your balance. Zelle/Ethereum/PayPal.


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[discodanman45]

Right now people are having trouble buying. This is not a dip, but idiots not realizing that dapper is having big issues. This is beta and the people that are posting cards lower and lower will lose big. Hold everything right now, once payments start to go through everything will recover.

[ConcordXI]

Originally Posted by brothertona

Another user, you get a middleman. You usually sell for 65 to 75 percent of your balance. Zelle/Ethereum/PayPal.


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Really not the same as being able to cash out through the site, which is the most concerning part. The debt/value is largely being moved between members while Dapper isn't processing many actual payouts.

[Vinny1984]

Yeah I can’t buy anything right now. Think we are headed for maintenance.