2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Watched em all, and the Elm Street franchise was my favorite. Friday the 13th was OK and Phantasm was pretty good too ... I still watch them now and I enjoy them very much. The later year ones are actually quite strong for humor. Even Chucky ... Bride of Chucky is actually quite good (Seed of Chucky OK, then downhill it goes). Hellraiser, Wishmaster ... all good stuff.

Before the advent of streaming, I'd get my fill from AMC during their month of horror in October. Don't even know for sure if AMC is still a channel. Sad

Yes! I love all of those. When I was a kid the video store had $0.99 rentals for the old VHS horror. I mowed through damn near all of them. Even the corny stuff. I have a pretty decent collection of horror movie action figures that my wife makes fun of me for. Even have a Tall Man figure from Phantasm.

We’ve already started decorating for Halloween. I’ll probably make a Halloween decoration thread once we’re done. It’s nothing extravagant, but there might some others members on here who ball out with the decorations that can share.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

They matter for elections my good man. They matter to drive feeling and emotion and to get you to like or dislike the person as an individual.

For you, they may matter. But I believe you have the ability to also make them not matter. You can live a life free of care in the world of what the President thinks or says. Only his actions are likely to have real impact in what you do for a living, what you earn, and the opportunity your children have growing up. I say this with quite certainty because I'm willing to bet that through 8 years of a George HW Bush Presidency, you don't remember a single thing he said (other than "Mission Accomplished" perhaps).

I don't. And I think he's a truly admirable, kind, honest guy.

You must mean "W" who maybe could be kind but was a long, long way from admirable or honest.
No one in the world remembers anything about those second four years of the "HW" Presidency.

[Athey49]

Originally Posted by rman112

Jim Carrey to play Joe Biden on SNL. The mind jokes are ripe for the taking.

And they already have a cast member who would be a great Tara Reade!

[gopherfan]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

You bring up another head-scratcher for me (and I am sure MANY other folks) - these "elective" surgeries..... what percent of these are not needed and a total waste???

I had a trigger finger surgery a couple months ago that was considered elective. I deal poker for a living, and after 25 years of doing that, my fingers would "lock up". Sometimes I would have to use my other hand to open up my fist. I didn't think it was elective, and am very happy I had the surgery. But it was still considered elective.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by jdandns

You must mean "W" who maybe could be kind but was a long, long way from admirable or honest.
No one in the world remembers anything about those second four years of the "HW" Presidency.

LOL, you got me on the H.

But I disagree that W was not an A+ human being. I've spent many years reading about who he is, what he has dedicated his life to since his presidency (and during his presidency) and no matter what you say about him, you must admit at a time when things have become politically charged everywhere, he has, not once, gotten involved.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

LOL, you got me on the H.

But I disagree that W was not an A+ human being. I've spent many years reading about who he is, what he has dedicated his life to since his presidency (and during his presidency) and no matter what you say about him, you must admit at a time when things have become politically charged everywhere, he has, not once, gotten involved.

Wait, I thought ex-two-term presidents were supposed to remain living in DC and run a shadow campaign that puts their senile VP in office?

[gopherfan]

Originally Posted by jdandns

There are trashcans literally all over the place.
Why waste the gas to go all the way down to the polling place to throw your vote into one there?

Because I am hoping that at some point moving forward that 3rd party candidates will at least be on the debate stage. It's total BS that Jorgensen isn't allowed to debate. The polling places say she is polling at less than 5%. Guess who isn't even listed on the polls? That's right, Jorgensen. Do you think that sways the results at all?

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

Wait, I thought ex-two-term presidents were supposed to remain living in DC and run a shadow campaign that puts their senile VP in office?

Nah; new policy. Not a fan.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by gopherfan

I had a trigger finger surgery a couple months ago that was considered elective. I deal poker for a living, and after 25 years of doing that, my fingers would "lock up". Sometimes I would have to use my other hand to open up my fist. I didn't think it was elective, and am very happy I had the surgery. But it was still considered elective.

It was for your job and livelihood, clearly not important. Has COVID taught you nothing?

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by gopherfan

I had a trigger finger surgery a couple months ago that was considered elective. I deal poker for a living, and after 25 years of doing that, my fingers would "lock up". Sometimes I would have to use my other hand to open up my fist. I didn't think it was elective, and am very happy I had the surgery. But it was still considered elective.

I agree with you that it was not "elective" because it helped you function in your job and life, but insurance companies take these things literally.



You scheduled the surgery, it was elective.



I'm not debating the definition of the word.

[Onions]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

LOL, you got me on the H.

But I disagree that W was not an A+ human being. I've spent many years reading about who he is, what he has dedicated his life to since his presidency (and during his presidency) and no matter what you say about him, you must admit at a time when things have become politically charged everywhere, he has, not once, gotten involved.

Huge respect for W here. He is a great guy. What the media did to him is disgusting. I have my differences with him, but his heart is/was in the right place.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by Onions

Huge respect for W here. He is a great guy. What the media did to him is disgusting. I have my differences with him, but his heart is/was in the right place.

Reoccurring trend with media and republican leaders.

[Onions]

Originally Posted by jdandns

You must mean "W" who maybe could be kind but was a long, long way from admirable or honest.
No one in the world remembers anything about those second four years of the "HW" Presidency.

I remember them. He was getting sexual favors from interns. Cigars, blue dresses, etc. Good times.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Athey49

And they already have a cast member who would be a great Tara Reade!

Yeah, that's never, ever, ever going to happen, but check out Aidy's own show "Shrill". She's star and writer. Two seasons of it already streaming on Hulu with a third on the way.

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

LOL, you got me on the H.

But I disagree that W was not an A+ human being. I've spent many years reading about who he is, what he has dedicated his life to since his presidency (and during his presidency) and no matter what you say about him, you must admit at a time when things have become politically charged everywhere, he has, not once, gotten involved.

That "W's" best known for the lie that sold the disastrous Iraq invasion must weigh on him. His time as former President shows that George was "deeper" than he was given credit for (and is approximately eleven times smarter than Trump). Maybe "W." is trying to make amends, like Michael Scott, all quiet and respectful in the last episode of "The Office". I've seen some of Bush's recent paintings, not bad. His wife and daughters seem nice. I wish him well.

Originally Posted by gopherfan

Because I am hoping that at some point moving forward that 3rd party candidates will at least be on the debate stage. It's total BS that Jorgensen isn't allowed to debate. The polling places say she is polling at less than 5%. Guess who isn't even listed on the polls? That's right, Jorgensen. Do you think that sways the results at all?

Hope for that after Trump is out.
Whatever you end up doing, vote Biden.

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

It was for your job and livelihood, clearly not important. Has COVID taught you nothing?

It's crazy/funny that we can have seemingly very similar political thoughts, yet be on totally different ends of the spectrum when it comes to sports thoughts.

Just an observation lol

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Yeah, that's never, ever, ever going to happen, but check out Aidy's own show "Shrill". She's star and writer. Two seasons of it already streaming on Hulu with a third on the way.



That "W's" best known for the lie that sold the disastrous Iraq invasion must weigh on him. His time as former President shows that George was "deeper" than he was given credit for (and is approximately eleven times smarter than Trump). Maybe "W." is trying to make amends, like Michael Scott, all quiet and respectful in the last episode of "The Office". I've seen some of Bush's recent paintings, not bad. His wife and daughters seem nice. I wish him well.



Hope for that after Trump is out.
Whatever you end up doing, vote Biden.

Still begging for votes I see.

Off to work I go.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

It's crazy/funny that we can have seemingly very similar political thoughts, yet be on totally different ends of the spectrum when it comes to sports thoughts.

Just an observation lol

So true lol.

[TheHeel]

If anyone is able to watch television through their device, I highly recommend watching Bob Woodward on Lawrence O’Donnell from last night.

Bob Woodward really paints a grim picture of our President and his response towards the pandemic. There are things that I have not heard from him that is spoken about in this interview.

https://www.nbc.com/the-last-word-wi...-91620/4227996

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

If anyone is able to watch television through their device, I highly recommend watching Bob Woodward on Lawrence O’Donnell from last night.

Bob Woodward really paints a grim picture of our President and his response towards the pandemic. There are things that I have not heard from him that is spoken about in this interview.

https://www.nbc.com/the-last-word-wi...-91620/4227996

A giant nothing burger served up by increasingly desperate left who realize Basement Joe's not hitting 50% in enough swing states to prevent a Trump repeat victory. Historians will look back and shake their heads at the Basement Joe strategy as a blunder of even greater proportions. Let me put it another way: when I think about what Elizabeth Warren could have and would have been doing as the Dem nominee, I shudder. Though I despise her politics and the fraudulent manner in which she advanced herself professionally, she would have been a relentless, unyielding campaigner. Dems will only have themselves and their fetish for extreme seniority to thank when Joe goes down.

[gopherfan]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

9/11 killed less than 2,000 people and the whole republican party cheered when the Patriot Act was passed.

COVID kills 200,000 and we can't even get you people to wear masks because "ma rights!"

Do you not see the disconnection?

Some of us left the Republican Party, and joined the Libertarian party. Because "ma rights!"

[gopherfan]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

Trust me - I don't see anything that has gone on over the last 6 months as a victory for anyone.

I believe that many of the small businesses that were required to close shouldn't have been. I also believe that, had more people taken this seriously in the early months, we wouldn't be where we are.

I don't believe people should be or should have been out rioting and/or protesting. I don't believe that it's fair that a liquor store can be open but a mom and pop has to close.

Agree. In Michigan, the lottery, liquor stores and pot shops have been considered essential since day 1. But my industry (Casino) is still only at 15% capacity.

[gopherfan]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

My grandfather lived with us until his mid-80s. Best part of my childhood, honestly.

My great grandma lived with us all growing up. She lived to be 96, and was still there past when I left. She went into a nursing home and only lived for another month. Honestly, I think that being "alone" is what killed her.

[gopherfan]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

What freedoms have you lost?

For me, I lost the freedom to work in my field.
I lost the freedom to travel.
I lost the freedom to visit family in the nursing home.
I lost the freedom to go to my second home.
I lost the freedom to enjoy dinner at a restaurant.
I lost the freedom to attend sporting events.


None of these are life threatening, except possibly the ability to earn an income. Even with the extra $600, which is no gone and I never agreed with in the first place, I was taking home less than half of my normal income. 6 months later, and now the $600 is gone and I am making 1/4 of my normal income.

Thankfully my wife and I have prepared for situations like this, and are able to make ends meet. Most in this country haven't prepared and have no savings.

My retirement is going to be pushed back about 2 months for every one month out of work. And now that I am making 25%of my normal take home, it will be 4 months for every month out of work. That is if taxes stay reasonably close to where they are now. There is no way that can happen after this monster bailout.

[gopherfan]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

I work evenings at our health district's COVID call center. I mostly answer questions based off of CDC and state guidelines, but I also book appointments for drive-thru testing.

I've spoken to positives who sound like death. I've spoken to positives who sound and feel perfectly fine.

I've also booked an appointment for someone who ultimately died of the virus. I've had a former co-worker die of the virus.

It's not fear. It's a healthy respect for something we don't fully understand.

Every night you are taking calls from people that have virus questions, and all this time and you have 1 person that died. I wish they hadn't, but shutting everything down for such a low number is insane.

Original estimates in my state were that 40% of the population would get it. And 20% of those would die. Population of Michigan is 10 million. Total cases 113,863. Total deaths 6623. We need 3,886,137 more people to get it, and 793,377 more to die to get to the original forecasts.

Some people say that we are doing a horrible job. Based off the original forecasts, I think we are doing amazing. In 10 years, we won't be close to the original estimates.

[gopherfan]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

I lost my job during the 2008 recession. It sucks, no doubt about it. I was out of full-time work for five months.

Is there a difference between a company making a decision to lay off workers, and the government forcing businesses to close? I think there is.