Wander Franco Rookie Card Debate (2021 Bowman's Best vs. 2022 RC logo cards)

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by pewe

You are probably correct… but FOMO bit hard and I splurged




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All good, man. Keep sharing the pics, I dig seeing them. And I agree, the regular blue looks better.

[rfgilles]

Originally Posted by pewe

You are probably correct… but FOMO bit hard and I splurged




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Nice Pewe.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by ObanMontecristo

not sure there will be that many left at that point?

We determined it was a print run of 6k + assorted refractors? I’m not trying to argue against your point because time will tell us soon enough, but that’s a lot of cards! They’re not all going into PC collections too, so some of these will be listed multiples of times. So, I don’t know, if people start seeing product dry up, please let the group know. I don’t see it yet though.

Fully aware that ‘22 S1 base will completely dwarf BB50’s base print run, but still, 6k is a lot.

[PDCCollectibles]

It's probably been answered, but why is there no "RC" on BB Wander?

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

We determined it was a print run of 6k + assorted refractors? I’m not trying to argue against your point because time will tell us soon enough, but that’s a lot of cards! They’re not all going into PC collections too, so some of these will be listed multiples of times. So, I don’t know, if people start seeing product dry up, please let the group know. I don’t see it yet though.

Fully aware that ‘22 S1 base will completely dwarf BB50’s base print run, but still, 6k is a lot.

there will be over 6K 2022 Topps Franco Silver Foils alone though! lol

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

there will be over 6K 2022 Topps Franco Silver Foils alone though! lol

Definitely.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by PDCCollectibles

It's probably been answered, but why is there no "RC" on BB Wander?

Oh boy, buckle up for another 168 pages, guys

[pewe]

Originally Posted by PDCCollectibles

It's probably been answered, but why is there no "RC" on BB Wander?

UER


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[Pacmeyer]

Originally Posted by PDCCollectibles

It's probably been answered, but why is there no "RC" on BB Wander?

It's the handiwork of an insidious mastermind at Topps (either that or a guy working in his boxers) intent on injecting the word "logobois" into the vernacular as a bigoted term that will soon be acceptable in polite conversations only as the L word.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

It's the handiwork of an insidious mastermind at Topps (either that or a guy working in his boxers) intent on injecting the word "logobois" into the vernacular as a bigoted term that will soon be acceptable in polite conversations only as the L word.

Be careful with such harsh language, I said “BB50 Bois” yesterday and upset someone. Maybe say… “young gentlemen who like logos”?

[pewe]

Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

It's the handiwork of an insidious mastermind at Topps (either that or a guy working in his boxers) intent on injecting the word "logobois" into the vernacular as a bigoted term that will soon be acceptable in polite conversations only as the L word.

He was caught on camera somewhere above


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[SupermanBrandon]

Im all for the "name calling" (both ways). Makes it more interesting. Don't like it...leave.

[zworykin]

Heaven forbid we try to raise the level of discourse above what you'd find on Reddit...

[Goldie]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

We determined it was a print run of 6k + assorted refractors? I’m not trying to argue against your point because time will tell us soon enough, but that’s a lot of cards! They’re not all going into PC collections too, so some of these will be listed multiples of times. So, I don’t know, if people start seeing product dry up, please let the group know. I don’t see it yet though.

Fully aware that ‘22 S1 base will completely dwarf BB50’s base print run, but still, 6k is a lot.

~5462

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by Goldie

~5462

Okay. So yeah, base vs base, BB50 will most likely easily sell for higher than ‘22 S1 once the hype settles down on both. I just don’t see a point where it dries up and can’t be found.

[ThoseBackPages]

the PR on 22S1 will be at least 500,000 copies

[JRX]

Base BB cards is at most 15k, refractor about 5500, atomic 450ish

For comparison, topps chrome update purple refractor 30k

[JRX]

You're looking at upwards of 40 base s1 for each bb base, maybe even more after factoring in factory sets. Now obv the demand side of the equation can be very different, but the supply of s1 will be massive. In fact, there will probably be more psa 10 2022 wander cards than total pr of bb base.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by JRX

You're looking at upwards of 40 base s1 for each bb base, maybe even more after factoring in factory sets. Now obv the demand side of the equation can be very different, but the supply of s1 will be massive. In fact, there will probably be more psa 10 2022 wander cards than total pr of bb base.

For sure. Wander’s ‘22 S1 base PSA 10 will blow past 30k as fast as PSA can knock them out.

[ThoseBackPages]

there will be many more 2022 Topps Chrome Wanders then BB50s

i think people will pay more for the TC though

[JRX]

Right now there are over 17k Tatis 410 and wasn't 2019 s2 a relatively lower pr vs the last couple years? There are almost 20k Soto 300s psa 10. The whole pr of 21BB is less than that. We need one of those infographics to really comprehend the print runs on some of these cards.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by JRX

Right now there are over 17k Tatis 410 and wasn't 2019 s2 a relatively lower pr vs the last couple years? There are almost 20k Soto 300s psa 10. The whole pr of 21BB is less than that. We need one of those infographics to really comprehend the print runs on some of these cards.

I believe Soto HMT55 has a 65k print run and 90%+ gem rate…


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[towerymt]

Originally Posted by callers

Does it have the pin hole dimple on the back top right corner? I noticed the Aqua, Blue, and Gold have it so far. Haven't seen it on Green or Purple yet.

Here's what I've observed on some blue refractors...

[oddstuff]

Originally Posted by JRX

Right now there are over 17k Tatis 410 and wasn't 2019 s2 a relatively lower pr vs the last couple years? There are almost 20k Soto 300s psa 10. The whole pr of 21BB is less than that. We need one of those infographics to really comprehend the print runs on some of these cards.

I believe 2019 print run as a whole increased in both unopened material as well as factory sets over 2018 which was the case with 2020, 2021 and significantly even more this year.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by oddstuff

I believe 2019 print run as a whole increased in both unopened material as well as factory sets over 2018 which was the case with 2020, 2021 and significantly even more this year.

I thought S2 was lower than S1 in 19. That might be what I was thinking.