The Official NBA Regular Season Thread—-20/21 Edition

[abidtsteele]

Originally Posted by tjforce

I don't think anyone would expect them to.

Just like the Warriors aren't winning without Klay, the Clips aren't winning without PG13, the Nets aren't winning without KD, the 76ers aren't winning without Simmons, or pretty much anybody without their second best player.

The objective is to stay afloat without him and let him get healthy. They are now 7-5 without him this year, and 5-5 in Feb with him out. The last two games have been a turnaround from what was looking pretty ugly.

I looked at all the losses and I only found 1 in which Lebron and DS played without AD. Pretty much if they have 2 of the 3 they win.

I'd add more but whats the point when Drob is like a brick wall

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by abidtsteele

I looked at all the losses and I only found 1 in which Lebron and DS played without AD. Pretty much if they have 2 of the 3 they win.

I'd add more but whats the point when Drob is like a brick wall

I'm not trying to make it personal against anyone here... too much of that going around these days, and I'll just stick to sports.

But I've said it before.... almost every year, in Jan or Feb before the All Star break, LeBron and his team have some sort of crisis. And every year other than his first year in LA where he sat for the end of the season, he's worked it out and ended up in the Finals. 9 out of 10 years in the last decade. Think about that.

I'm not saying they are a shoe-in for the Finals and nothing can get in their way, just that this isn't anything worth panicking about.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by abidtsteele

I looked at all the losses and I only found 1 in which Lebron and DS played without AD. Pretty much if they have 2 of the 3 they win.

I'd add more but whats the point when Drob is like a brick wall

Ooooh touchy are we. Calm down precious.

I've bet the Lakers hard to repeat. So I'll either win a nice chunk or get to laugh at another failure by LeBron.

DS has been incredible. I hope he's ready for being the scapegoat though for any losses where he and LeBron are playing.

The Lakers still have a solid group from 1 to 9 without AD. I just think TJ shouldn't get too excited about beating POR who are missing key guys and that Dubs team.

Their whole month of March schedule is pretty soft. They could go 10 and 3 pretty easily at worst.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by tjforce

I'm not trying to make it personal against anyone here... too much of that going around these days, and I'll just stick to sports.

But I've said it before.... almost every year, in Jan or Feb before the All Star break, LeBron and his team have some sort of crisis. And every year other than his first year in LA where he sat for the end of the season, he's worked it out and ended up in the Finals. 9 out of 10 years in the last decade. Think about that.

I'm not saying they are a shoe-in for the Finals and nothing can get in their way, just that this isn't anything worth panicking about.

I guess the big difference is, Bron has gotten by in the East because there hasn't really even been a decent team to even worry about.

He's really gonna need AD back and playing like himself during the Playoffs and soon.

Although Bron has probably mastered the ability to win enough Reg season games by now.

And he clearly wants another MVP trophy

[rippev]

PJ Washington drops 42 points and hits a huge 3 down the stretch as they win by 1. We’ll see if he can build off that strong effort!

[Mahomie]

Originally Posted by rippev

PJ Washington drops 42 points and hits a huge 3 down the stretch as they win by 1. We’ll see if he can build off that strong effort!

That was an incredible comeback by the Hornets.

[pingbling23]

Gotta be one of the douchiest things to brag about winning bets on a player you obsessively hate. Lmao, he’s got so sick of seeing Lebron dominate he has to make up being a winner himself.

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

Gotta be one of the douchiest things to brag about winning bets on a player you obsessively hate. Lmao, he’s got so sick of seeing Lebron dominate he has to make up being a winner himself.

Gotta be one of the douchiest things to make it personal with someone for not liking a sports figure...

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Gotta be one of the douchiest things to make it personal with someone for not liking a sports figure...

I wouldn't stress man. Pingbling23 I've had on block for years. Dude is the first to troll if LeBron does anything good. He was in tears on the reg when GS were healthy.

I respect a lot of things about LeBron. But he's not my hero.

Edit: and LOL about dominating, my team never had a problem destroying LeBron teams. Bar that one time, Ray Allen you jerk, ha ha.

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

I wouldn't stress man. Pingbling23 I've had on block for years. Dude is the first to troll if LeBron does anything good. He was in tears on the reg when GS were healthy.

I respect a lot of things about LeBron. But he's not my hero.

Edit: and LOL about dominating, my team never had a problem destroying LeBron teams. Bar that one time, Ray Allen you jerk, ha ha.

Lol if I were a Spurs fan, Ray Allen would haunt my dreams. I think you'd admit though that the 2014 Finals probably wouldn't have gone down the way it did if he hadn't hit that shot. The Spurs had that extra motivation in 2014 of feeling robbed and put on a record setting beatdown.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Lol if I were a Spurs fan, Ray Allen would haunt my dreams. I think you'd admit though that the 2014 Finals probably wouldn't have gone down the way it did if he hadn't hit that shot. The Spurs had that extra motivation in 2014 of feeling robbed and put on a record setting beatdown.

What's funny is that I actually bet the Heat to win the title that season when Ray hit that shot.

The season before the Spurs had lost a 2-0 lead to the Thunder and I thought they were done. Too old.

I couldn't believe how tough they played MIA in 12/13 and we were really the better team.

I totally agree. That loss must have been incredible motivation. Tim Duncan even called out the Heat and said they'd beat them this time and they sure did. They smashed them and sent LeBron packing to a greener pasture as he does.

[Gurds]

Originally Posted by Mahomie

That was an incredible comeback by the Hornets.

I lost out on $600 because of that. Oh well.

[indyguy]

Man, I watched the garbage time of that Lakers/Warriors game. Anyone that is high on THJ needs to go watch the last five minutes of that game. Not a guy I want to invest in. That was some of the absolute worst basketball I've ever seen, at any level.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Gotta be one of the douchiest things to make it personal with someone for not liking a sports figure...

Lol, I made it personal? The constant insults and childish pettiness from you trolls for the last 10 years is what made it personal.

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

Lol, I made it personal? The constant insults and childish pettiness from you trolls for the last 10 years is what made it personal.

How do I make it personal with anybody on here when I hate on lebron? Haters insult lebron. Fanatics insult the haters.

See the difference? What's funny/sad is that guys on here will base them liking another member on here if they worship lebron or not.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

How do I make it personal with anybody on here when I hate on lebron? Haters insult lebron. Fanatics insult the haters.

See the difference?

You all constantly insult Lebron fans and constantly troll all things Lebron. Drob is a big boy, if he wants defend himself when I call him out he can, he doesn’t need you to step in, thanks.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

How do I make it personal with anybody on here when I hate on lebron? Haters insult lebron. Fanatics insult the haters.

See the difference? What's funny/sad is that guys on here will base them liking another member on here if they worship lebron or not.

Exactly, I see you Lebron trolls do that all the time. It’s sad. Of course you can’t help yourself, you have to use terms like worship. You know what you’re doing, you’ve been at it for a long time. Master troll level.

[Erikthredd]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

Wow heck of a finish in the Celtics game. Jayson Tatum taking over!

Down by 5 with :45 seconds to go it's all Tatum. He scores on 2 quick plays get's them within 1. They trap Beal on the inbounds and he falls and goes out of bounds.

Tatum get's the ball on the next play and scores the game winner.

Definitely a strong game/finish from Tatum especially bouncing back after going 4-18 against the Pacers in the previous game. Equally impressive to his 8pts in that final 1:35 were the Tatum/Green trap for a Beal turnover and the Tatum/Semi trap on the Beal miss at the buzzer. When Westbrook hit that three to go up 8 with just under 3mins they could have easily put their heads down and gave up but they kept competing.

I know they were only wins against the 9th & 12th seeds but its good to see them finally win back to back games for the first time in over a month. Hopefully Brown is ready to go tomorrow night with the Clippers coming to town.

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

Gotta be one of the douchiest things to brag about winning bets on a player you obsessively hate. Lmao, he’s got so sick of seeing Lebron dominate he has to make up being a winner himself.

There's a difference (of course?) between liking or wanting someone to win and thinking they'll win.

Maybe the "douche" wants to have a silver lining to having to see his hated athlete win again.

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Edit: and LOL about dominating, my team never had a problem destroying LeBron teams. Bar that one time, Ray Allen you jerk, ha ha.

Makes up for all that Danny Green luck.

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

What's funny is that I actually bet the Heat to win the title that season when Ray hit that shot.

The season before the Spurs had lost a 2-0 lead to the Thunder and I thought they were done. Too old.

I couldn't believe how tough they played MIA in 12/13 and we were really the better team.

I totally agree. That loss must have been incredible motivation. Tim Duncan even called out the Heat and said they'd beat them this time and they sure did. They smashed them and sent LeBron packing to a greener pasture as he does.

That '14 Spurs team sure was a steamroller, better than their mere 60-ish regular season wins.

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

I couldn't believe how tough they played MIA in 12/13 and we were really the better team.

I totally agree. That loss must have been incredible motivation. Tim Duncan even called out the Heat and said they'd beat them this time and they sure did. They smashed them and sent LeBron packing to a greener pasture as he does.

I was curious to go check this, and based on Elo as a measure of team strength (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ry-of-the-nba/), the '13 Heat were stronger. I guesstimate that each 100 points of Elo is roughly 10 wins worth of strength in the regular season standings, so a 1600 Elo is about 50-win strength, 1700 is about 60-win strength.

The '13 Heat were at about 66-win strength (matching their regular-season record) going into the playoffs and basically maintained that level. The '13 Spurs were around 55-win strength going into the playoffs and finished around 63-win strength.

The '14 teams were a different story. The Spurs were around 63-win strength at the end of the regular season and finished around 67-win strength, while the Heat were around 55-win strength at the end of the regular season and ended up barely above 50-win strength. No wonder the Spurs steamrolled them.

Of course neither of them compares to the 75-win (or so) strength of the '17 Warriors in the playoffs. Having 2 healthy MVP-level players in their prime on the same team (which as far as I know has never happened in NBA history aside from the '17-18 GSW) can do that for you.

edit: then again, the SRS of the '13 Heat and Spurs were nearly identical (7.0 vs. 6.7). Don't know how SRS compares as a measure with Elo. With the '16 GSW (73-9) and Cavs (57-25), the GSW SRS vs. the Cavs more reflected their regular-season records, but Elo says they ended up pretty evenly matched in the Finals with around 67-win strength each.

[pingbling23]

the last spurs/heat finals the spurs definitely were the better team. that was some of the best team play ive ever seen in the finals. it looked like lebron was the only player on the heat that wanted to play. wade was a shell of himself and bosh didnt assert himself enough. i think it will come out in the future but i believe the heat found out lebron was going back to the cavs and they all gave up. their role players were abysmal that series.

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

the last spurs/heat finals the spurs definitely were the better team. that was some of the best team play ive ever seen in the finals. it looked like lebron was the only player on the heat that wanted to play. wade was a shell of himself and bosh didnt assert himself enough. i think it will come out in the future but i believe the heat found out lebron was going back to the cavs and they all gave up. their role players were abysmal that series.

They were just not good enough. Bench was bad, Wade was shot and Bosh had gotten used to his role and didn't step up. That playoff team was by far the worst team the Heat had in the LeBron era. It was just hard to see because of how terrible the East was that season.

[brothertona]

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