2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

Fox News called Tennessee for Biden

Why not just say, Biden wins the Southeast

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

Dont think anyone(or many) wants to get rid of all guns. I think everyone who is mentally able should have one. I personally don't see a need for an AR15 etc though.

Need isn’t a qualifier for the 2nd Amendment.

An AR15 is just a semi automatic weapon. It is not “deadlier” than any .30 cal variation of a lever action rifle - that have been around for half a century.

[Soxfanguy]

Maine looks like it’s going to be extremely close

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Tons of time still but you're looking at Bernie or Biden. My money is on Biden and then him somehow managing to lose the General due to the Bernie supporters not showing up, reminiscent of 2016.

Bernie will win or compete in the states you need to win for the General (Penn, Mich, Wisc). That was the misstep by the DNC last go round. Hillary (and Biden) out primary in the states that don't matter (the South) and Bernie takes the states you actually need to turnout voters for.

Biden probably takes Penn, but the 2 key states of Wisconsin and Michigan will go Bernie like they did in 2016. You need all 3 because I doubt either can flip any other states.

Florida and Ohio should go to Trump. Maybe, just maybe Bernie could flip Utah but it wouldn't be enough.

I think Biden takes it solely based off him beating Bernie in Penn and he'd likely also beat Trump in Penn. That may just be enough.

Bloomberg may hang around like Kasich did in 2016, but he's not a legit nominee.

So pretty spot on.

Biden wins these states and gets delegates from states that are going to Trump anyway, whereas the blue states go to Bernie.

The one takeaway I have from tonight as it projects forward in the decade is Texas obviously has a large contingent of left voters as opposed to just center-left. The demographics in Texas are changing every year, and if the Democrats can lock up Texas then the presidential races will effectively be over getting the electoral college votes from NY, CA, and TX.

It’s not happening this year as I think Trump has pretty much locked up re-election with the fracturing of the Democratic Party, but it seems like the system is going to end up turning the tide for the Democrats anyway in the future.

[budd2222]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

Need isn’t a qualifier for the 2nd Amendment.

An AR15 is just a semi automatic weapon. It is not “deadlier” than any .30 cal variation of a lever action rifle - that have been around for half a century.

How long does it take to shoot out a clip on a AR15? How many rounds is the max on them?. Now what ate the stats on a .30 cal lever action? Why does a mass shooter pick a AR15 type gun and not a .30 lever action?

[chezball]

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by chezball

Accurate

[ntgm37]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

So pretty spot on.

Biden wins these states and gets delegates from states that are going to Trump anyway, whereas the blue states go to Bernie.

The one takeaway I have from tonight as it projects forward in the decade is Texas obviously has a large contingent of left voters as opposed to just center-left. The demographics in Texas are changing every year, and if the Democrats can lock up Texas then the presidential races will effectively be over getting the electoral college votes from NY, CA, and TX.

It’s not happening this year as I think Trump has pretty much locked up re-election with the fracturing of the Democratic Party, but it seems like the system is going to end up turning the tide for the Democrats anyway in the future.

It's sad to see all those California and New Yorkers ruin the once great state.

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by ntgm37

It's sad to see all those California and New Yorkers ruin the once great state.

How long before there’s a income tax in Texas?

[Soxfanguy]

Biden wins Arkansas

[Soxfanguy]

Biden wins Minnesota

[RedSoxFan28]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

Need isn’t a qualifier for the 2nd Amendment.

An AR15 is just a semi automatic weapon. It is not “deadlier” than any .30 cal variation of a lever action rifle - that have been around for half a century.

Why are there restrictions on what guns we can own now? Let us have fully autos, rpgs, grenades, nukes ++++. We have the right to protect ourselves, why arent we allowed to have all resources/weapons available to us?

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by budd2222

How long does it take to shoot out a clip on a AR15? How many rounds is the max on them?. Now what ate the stats on a .30 cal lever action? Why does a mass shooter pick a AR15 type gun and not a .30 lever action?

Holy crap - your post is full of so much nonsense.

I would suggest you study firearms, ballistics and general history of weapons before talking about them.
AR15s don’t use clips
Firearm “stats” are called ballistics
Lever actions can be available up to 10 rounds and have existed since the 1800s
I don’t know why anyone would pick any specific weapon. I know that with training even “less deadly” weapons like a revolver can be devastating.

Spend 5 minutes watching Jerry Miculek empty five 44 magnum rounds on target in 1 second.
Or (gasp) five 500 magnum rounds in 1 second.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by ntgm37

It's sad to see all those California and New Yorkers ruin the once great state.

Ruin Texas?

On one hand Austin used to be the coolest city in the country and was a hippy paradise of libertarian views and free-thinking.

A lot of that was lost to this elitism mindset that the Californians and Silicon Valley brought to the city.

The trade-off was the capital infusion. I can pretty much do anything in the city and make $50K without ever using my brain. The Californians brought BILLIONS of dollars and pretty much insulated my city to much of the financial hardships the rest of the country faces. 2008, Obama, Trump, whoever takes 2020...it doesn’t matter because the money in my city that the Californians brought in pretty much makes everybody impervious you the whims of any political policy.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by budd2222

How long does it take to shoot out a clip on a AR15? How many rounds is the max on them?. Now what ate the stats on a .30 cal lever action? Why does a mass shooter pick a AR15 type gun and not a .30 lever action?

How many bullets are in the clip? Do you mean magazine? Ar15 can be unloaded faster. You’d be surprised how fast a lever action can be shot though. Magazines may be limited to 10 in some states. I own 30 round and 40 Round mags. Lever action can hold different numbers but not as many as the ar15. I assume mass shooters pick the ar15 because they think it’s cool and they saw it in a movie or because they saw other mass shooters use them. No real clue why they choose it. We’d have to ask them. Lever action just isn’t cool to the younger killers I guess.

[jdandns]

It's long past time that semi-automatics were regulated the same way fully-automatics were. We'll get there.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

Why are there restrictions on what guns we can own now? Let us have fully autos, rpgs, grenades, nukes ++++. We have the right to protect ourselves, why arent we allowed to have all resources/weapons available to us?

I wouldn’t trust myself with explosives. I’m nervous putting air in my tire

Some people do own full auto rifles though. I see them at the gun range a lot.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

Why are there restrictions on what guns we can own now? Let us have fully autos, rpgs, grenades, nukes ++++. We have the right to protect ourselves, why arent we allowed to have all resources/weapons available to us?

Arms are generally considered weapons that fire a projectile. Half of what you mentioned are explosives. So let’s stick to actual firearms and not trump up a whole army of strawmen. Now sticking to firearms...

Most of those are available with a background check and a tax stamp. They are highly regulated, but almost any qualified citizen can get them. The government just makes you jump through hoops and pay $$ for them. I don’t know how you can talk about firearms and know so little about actual regulations.

There are restrictions because they have been allowed. Again, read the 2nd Amendment and point out where it qualifies need.

[ntgm37]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Ruin Texas?

On one hand Austin used to be the coolest city in the country and was a hippy paradise of libertarian views and free-thinking.

A lot of that was lost to this elitism mindset that the Californians and Silicon Valley brought to the city.

The trade-off was the capital infusion. I can pretty much do anything in the city and make $50K without ever using my brain. The Californians brought BILLIONS of dollars and pretty much insulated my city to much of the financial hardships the rest of the country faces. 2008, Obama, Trump, whoever takes 2020...it doesn’t matter because the money in my city that the Californians brought in pretty much makes everybody impervious you the whims of any political policy.

So you agree or disagree that it was ruined?

[chezball]

Without considering policy, two guys pushing up on 80 with heart issues. The other, one year younger with dementia. This is the best the dims can come up with.
Four years ago, literally the worse person possible.

[Soxfanguy]

Trying to listen to Bernie makes my ears bleed

[Soxfanguy]

These Bernie people cheer at every single sentence I swear it’s the worse

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by ntgm37

So you agree or disagree that it was ruined?

Tough to say really. It’s just changed. I preferred old Austin’s local vibe more than the mass corporatism that’s swarmed into this city. On the other hand not having to worry financially is a huge blessing that was driven by a lot of the corporatism.

I’d say it’s a wash honestly. Personal preference I’d rather struggle more financially and have less corporatism in the state.

Been all over the country and there still isn’t a state like Texas that I’ve seen.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by chezball

Without considering policy, two guys pushing up on 80 with heart issues. The other one year younger with dementia. This is the best the dims can come up with.
Four years ago, literally the worse person possible.

Either would be significantly better than any morbidly obese 73 year old proven liar who thinks he's a king on a throne.

[chezball]

look at the crowd now where sanders is speaking, all indoctrination kids.