Corona Virus

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Testing random athletes who show no symptoms seem to trigger positives more than testing the people who are supposed to have it.

WTF. Nets, Lakers, Celts, Jazz. Huh?

As I look at the March schedule, these teams are all connected. San Antonio and Chicago should also get tested. Bet they have a dozen or so positives they don't know about.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

As I look at the March schedule, these teams are all connected. San Antonio and Chicago should also get tested. Bet they have a dozen or so positives they don't know about.

Test dem girls too. They like to share from city to city

[pac213up]

Originally Posted by ig88collector

Late Jan my wife got sick with fever, had a hard time breathing specially at night, went to the doctor flu negative. She was sent home I would say she was miserable for 2 weeks. Kids had minor fever few days later, they were fine after 3-4 days. Then I got it but mine lasted 2-3days no major issue breathing had fever one night was tired for a week.
Wife was in charge of new hotels she had to interview/hire lots of housekeepers, she told me 50% were chinese that spoke no english.
We have started to wonder if we got it already.

There are a lot of these stories so you have to wonder. But why wouldn't the experts put his together yet? My workplace was like a zombieland for a month, very unusual.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by pac213up

There are a lot of these stories so you have to wonder. But why wouldn't the experts put his together yet? My workplace was like a zombieland for a month, very unusual.

A few have. There are contrarian views and models that suggest this isn't gonna be a thing, but they are a fraction of what the majority presents.

There's a scale of outcomes. I feel like we're just getting hit non-stop with one very small end of the spectrum and it's just making us all scared to death that something is coming (that is very unlikely to come). It's wearing us all down a bit and it just sucks. Media and the science world is outdoing themselves to publish the craziest, awful scenarios ... and we need a strong dose of reality.

[pejc300]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

And this is what bothers me. Other countries show the same kind of data as Wisconsin, NY, North Dakota etc.

If this spreads like we are constantly told it does; then how can most people who show symptoms of the virus and have a higher than average likelihood to have contracted it (location close to others that have had it) ... test negative?

We're talking about a population of 340 million. Either this thing isn't as contagious as some would have you believe, OR, been there done that in terms of people who could have contracted it, got over it.

Something isn't adding up. No country has seen this explode. None. No country is dealing with anywhere close to a 1% infection rate across their population, and we're two-three months into this thing already in a lot of places. I don't get it.

Gavin Newsome today said that he expects 56% of California's population to contract the virus in the next 8 weeks. He says this of course to ask the government for a mount of funding, but how is that at all possible? Is he just taking 8 and bringing it to the 8th power (one each week)? IDK, I feel like everyone is just spouting big numbers on top of big numbers to drive home a point I can't quite understand.

All of this is to say, watch New York. New York will be the bellwether. They're the ones w/ all the big numbers right now, hitting the testing hard. If they're OK next week, we're OK next month.

I'd love to see a good rebuttal to this.

This is getting stupid. I'm over it. My state (Washington) is ground freaking zero. Out of 20,000 tested there are 7% positive (very high compared to everywhere else). Out of all of the positives (1,376), 5% have died. Of all those that have died, 93% are over 60 in high risk.

But darnit if we don't make everyone lose their jobs. WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[r0yals2012]

Same with my brother, dad, and aunt in January/February. All the symptoms were there. My dad and aunt both got the flu shot and both the pneumonia shot. Tamiflu didn’t really help my brother. My dad didn’t want to go to dr. My aunt got antibiotics because they thought she pneumonia but no medicine helped. They are immunocompromised. It took my dad 5 weeks to get back to normal and my aunt is still on week 4 of recovering, and my brother 3 weeks to fully recover. My mom and I, we didn’t get it. But we rarely ever get sick.


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[bradical]

Without getting too political, do you feel the response to COVID-19 will help or hurt the current administrations chances of getting elected again?

[chezball]

cali that idiot just shut down the state.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by r0yals2012

Same with my brother, dad, and aunt in January/February. All the symptoms were there. My dad and aunt both got the flu shot and both the pneumonia shot. Tamiflu didn’t really help my brother. My dad didn’t want to go to dr. My aunt got antibiotics because they thought she pneumonia but no medicine helped. They are immunocompromised. It took my dad 5 weeks to get back to normal and my aunt is still on week 4 of recovering, and my brother 3 weeks to fully recover. My mom and I, we didn’t get it. But we rarely ever get sick.


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In a matter of weeks I was prescribed Z-pack, then Amoxicillin and finally doxycycline which either got rid of it or it just ran its course.


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[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by bradical

Without getting too political, do you feel the response to COVID-19 will help or hurt the current administrations chances of getting elected again?

It's been said that nothing can hurt Teflon Don. I don't really know. I'm pretty positive that based on what every other country is doing, what the medical professions are suggesting; this was the only course of action that really any President could have taken. Was someone really gonna stand up to the world and say "This isn't that bad, we'll deal our own way?"

That said, we've tanked the economy. That was Trumps bread and butter and was his clear path to re-election. Though no fault of his own, I think a rough next 8 months for America from a financial point of view would likely sink him. Just my opinion, so much can change between now and then, especially considering his competition.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by bradical

Without getting too political, do you feel the response to COVID-19 will help or hurt the current administrations chances of getting elected again?

A lot depends on the next few months. The last couple of months before the election always plays a part, Covid-19 or not.
Also in play is a lot of people are a bit leery of changing leadership midway through a crisis.


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[hairysasquatch]

No new cases in my county today.

[yanksfan1]

Originally Posted by Astros19

A lot depends on the next few months. The last couple of months before the election always plays a part, Covid-19 or not.
Also in play is a lot of people are a bit leery of changing leadership midway through a crisis.


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I think this would be true if his opponent was any of the Dem candidates other than Biden. As a two term VP, I think most people would have an idea of what they're getting if they vote for Biden.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by chezball

cali that idiot just shut down the state.

Holy Jesus. Yes he did.

State-wide stay home order. Incredible. 40 million people, all businesses shut down. He says we need to "bend the curve". That's new.

Well, it's spread quickly!

[chezball]

Malaria drug showing promise of getting people out of the hospitals faster.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by pejc300

I'd love to see a good rebuttal to this.

This is getting stupid. I'm over it. My state (Washington) is ground freaking zero. Out of 20,000 tested there are 7% positive (very high compared to everywhere else). Out of all of the positives (1,376), 5% have died. Of all those that have died, 93% are over 60 in high risk.

But darnit if we don't make everyone lose their jobs. WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It’s the Grain of Rice Fable people are worried about.

It looks like nothing currently, but in 3-4 weeks at the current rate it’s going to be a lot greater.

At least, that’s what people are worried about.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Holy Jesus. Yes he did.

State-wide stay home order. Incredible. 40 million people, all businesses shut down. He says we need to "bend the curve". That's new.

Well, it's spread quickly!

12% of the US economy. 1929 here we come.

[Wiseguy917]

Originally Posted by chezball

12% of the US economy. 1929 here we come.

Does this mean I’ll be able to buy a new car for $500 again?

[pejc300]

Originally Posted by chezball

12% of the US economy. 1929 here we come.

Good move. If he didn’t do this, everyone was going to die. EVERYONE!!!!

[mwash1983]

Originally Posted by chezball

12% of the US economy. 1929 here we come.

Lot of places can work from home, technology is different now.

[RogerGodahell]

Infectious disease expert details 3 possible scenarios for the U.S.


1. One of them is the Chinese scenario, where we do put together social distancing, a measure that’s so extreme that we do manage to suppress it within a month. But at that point, we’re not out of the woods yet and we don’t know what the endgame is, because when you lift those suppressive measures, the virus is able to come back. On Thursday, China reported no new coronavirus infections for the first time since the outbreak began. Critics, citing Beijing’s role in the initial spread of the virus, recommended caution on trusting Chinese government assertions. Supporters attributed the decline to the country’s draconian approach to containing the outbreak.

The New York Times has reported that in China, there have been roadblocks to seal off cities, public transit being shut down, and private cars banned from roads, along with Wuhan residents prohibited from leaving their homes. It’s unclear if the number of new coronavirus cases will stay low once restrictions are lifted.

2. “Scenario two is if the virus is able to transmit successfully during the summer,” Boni explained, “then the current epidemic wave that we’re just at the beginning of — people are talking about this being over in a few weeks but it’s ... not almost over at all. So if the virus can transmit in the summer, we’re going to see an epidemic wave that lasts through the summer, possibly to the end of the summer.”

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), recently told NPR that “it’s not unreasonable to make the assumption” that cases will diminish once the weather gets warmer. But he did note that there is still too much unknown about this particular coronavirus, and no history to work off of.

3. Then there is scenario three: if the virus cannot transmit successfully during the summer.

“We’ll see lower transmission in the summer, which would be really fortuitous for us, because it will give us time to prepare for the second wave that will come in the winter,” Boni said.

“It might start in October, November, when school gets back into session and when the winter turns down again,” he added. “And then we’d have a major epidemic wave the following winter. So it’s probably 12 months of hardship for all of us.”

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/c...151836934.html

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

It’s the Grain of Rice Fable people are worried about.

It looks like nothing currently, but in 3-4 weeks at the current rate it’s going to be a lot greater.

At least, that’s what people are worried about.

We'll know by Friday the 27th. New York will tell us.

[pac213up]

Originally Posted by bradical

Without getting too political, do you feel the response to COVID-19 will help or hurt the current administrations chances of getting elected again?

The economy was the one thing that Trump rated well on. That has already started to shift. Not sure how he recovers given the recession that we are now heading towards. Doesn't matter if it is his fault or not really.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

We'll know by Friday the 27th. New York will tell us.

Why that date?

I actually think what dbacks said last night was the best post.

People will sit for 2-4 weeks, and then no matter what it looks like will resume life. For good or bad.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by pac213up

The economy was the one thing that Trump rated well on. That has already started to shift. Not sure how he recovers given the recession that we are now heading towards. Doesn't matter if it is his fault or not really.

This issue is resolved by August/September and he’ll be viewed in a positive light.