Michael Jordan RC, PSA 10, shatters 100k !!! - Page 162

pcptrade · 07-25-2021, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GOATcards

Why would anyone think that a BGS 10 black label #57 would go for less than $1M?

BGS 10 black label, if one existed (Pop 1) would easily fetch a million plus at auction. I would be a bidder until $1.25 million, which makes me believe it will easily fetch more than $1.25 million at an auction. Mantle 1952 Topps PSA 10 (Pop 3) is a $10-20 million dollar card
and its Mantle's second year card. A BGS 10 Black label Jordan Fleer #57 (Pop 1) would easily be a $10 million plus card in 25 years.

KhalDrogo · 07-25-2021, 08:36 AM

Black label would be $5M+. I have no doubt about that.

2010GBPackers · 07-25-2021, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

BGS 10 black label, if one existed (Pop 1) would easily fetch a million plus at auction. I would be a bidder until $1.25 million, which makes me believe it will easily fetch more than $1.25 million at an auction. Mantle 1952 Topps PSA 10 (Pop 3) is a $10-20 million dollar card
and its Mantle's second year card. A BGS 10 Black label Jordan Fleer #57 (Pop 1) would easily be a $10 million plus card in 25 years and it's Jordan's third year card.

k13 · 07-25-2021, 10:36 AM

Why would people pay a million for a sheet cut BGS 10....

Hilton · 07-25-2021, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by k13

Why would people pay a million for a sheet cut BGS 10....

I agree that’s why a Jordan fleer bgs 10 rookie didn’t meet its reserve price of $60,000 in heritage auctions in October 2014. People all over hobby message boards were complaining it was sheet cut and therefore not worth as much.

Springerj23 · 07-25-2021, 12:32 PM

This discussion comes up on here every couple of years. One of the (6) BGS 10s would do $1M+ if it wasn’t deemed sheet cut.

A Black Label 10, would set the basketball card sales price record, maybe all-time sports card price record.

FT35 · 07-25-2021, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by k13

Why would people pay a million for a sheet cut BGS 10....

Never thought of this. Good point here.

rats60 · 07-25-2021, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by k13

Why would people pay a million for a sheet cut BGS 10....

Why are people paying 200k+ for trimmed Jordan RCs in PSA 10 holders?

duron · 07-25-2021, 04:25 PM

k13 · 07-26-2021, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60

Why are people paying 200k+ for trimmed Jordan RCs in PSA 10 holders?

Because they don't know they are trimmed or don't care.

sh403 · 07-26-2021, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

BGS 10 black label, if one existed (Pop 1) would easily fetch a million plus at auction. I would be a bidder until $1.25 million, which makes me believe it will easily fetch more than $1.25 million at an auction. Mantle 1952 Topps PSA 10 (Pop 3) is a $10-20 million dollar card
and its Mantle's second year card. A BGS 10 Black label Jordan Fleer #57 (Pop 1) would easily be a $10 million plus card in 25 years.

52 mantle PSA 10 is more than a $10-20M card considering one of the owners recently rejected a $20M offer

pachyderm · 07-27-2021, 06:55 AM

I heard Gary Vee will not be going to the National now! What is going to happen to all those people who bought Jordan Rookie PSA 10s to sell to him at the National??????

duron · 07-27-2021, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pachyderm

I heard Gary Vee will not be going to the National now! What is going to happen to all those people who bought Jordan Rookie PSA 10s to sell to him at the National??????

They’ll go to Mike Baker’s table for a real GEM of an opportunity!!!!!

Imagine adding a magical premium on top of a card once someone grades the grade they already graded, which actually happens with some of this Baker trash.

Magic is real.

ReggieBush22 · 08-04-2021, 10:42 AM

Sold my 1986 Fleer MJ PSA 9 for $28k. Reason I sold it is because I am way to wary of the counterfeits that keep getting better and better. And that is by far the most counterfeited card in the hobby. Just too much risk. Had these counterfeits not been so good, I would be all in on buying more of these and putting them away but as it stands, too risky for me.

r338 · 08-04-2021, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ReggieBush22

Sold my 1986 Fleer MJ PSA 9 for $28k. Reason I sold it is because I am way to wary of the counterfeits that keep getting better and better. And that is by far the most counterfeited card in the hobby. Just too much risk. Had these counterfeits not been so good, I would be all in on buying more of these and putting them away but as it stands, too risky for me.

You were pumping the heck out of the 86 Fleer just a few weeks ago.

How did did come to this new revelation? Did you see a lot of counterfeits at the National?

ReggieBush22 · 08-04-2021, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by r338

You were pumping the heck out of the 86 Fleer just a few weeks ago.

How did did come to this new revelation? Did you see a lot of counterfeits at the National?

I created an account on this site many years ago but didn't check out posts until a couple months back. And after doing so, I realized the sophistication of these counterfeits. That one counterfeit MJ PSA 10 that was mentioned on this site which looked 100% legit to me scared the hell out of me. I thought I would always be able to spot a fake MJ. Not anymore. It's a basic risk vs reward analysis. Risk outweighs reward.

Now, if a grading company makes a holder that has security features that seem almost impossible to duplicate and MJ 9s are still hovering around $25k, I would be all in. But as it stands, no way.

I have a beautiful SGC 7 that I have for my PC. The picture clarity on that one is the most beautiful I have ever seen on an MJ. I'll just appreciate that one for now.

hermanotarjeta · 08-04-2021, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ReggieBush22

Sold my 1986 Fleer MJ PSA 9 for $28k. Reason I sold it is because I am way to wary of the counterfeits that keep getting better and better. And that is by far the most counterfeited card in the hobby. Just too much risk. Had these counterfeits not been so good, I would be all in on buying more of these and putting them away but as it stands, too risky for me.

I sold back in 1992 because I was worried about counterfeits. I made 300% profit to boot!!

sh403 · 08-07-2021, 11:04 PM

Is it just me or does it look to anyone else like someone gave this PSA 10 a pretty bad haircut on the top left?: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Fleer-.../224538912285?

Pat3ntP3nd1ng · 08-08-2021, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sh403

Is it just me or does it look to anyone else like someone gave this PSA 10 a pretty bad haircut on the top left?: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Fleer-.../224538912285?

Yep. Looks that way.

Tommy1380 · 08-08-2021, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sh403

Is it just me or does it look to anyone else like someone gave this PSA 10 a pretty bad haircut on the top left?: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Fleer-.../224538912285?

Wow, blatantly obvious when you look at the back of the card.

pcptrade · 08-08-2021, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kefskala

Congrats to all of my psa 10 holders. I know not that many post here anymore but I popped a bottle of champagne for all of you. So much to all the pros in here that kept saying the sky was falling on our beloved 57. Funny how I keep reading that there is at least another 80% of float that needs to trade but one variable that isn’t being taking into account is out of that 80% how many collectors will not sell. Just to help out all the actuaries and mathematicians my two copy’s are off the market....so let the rambling being when the card will hit 1 mil!!!!

$840K sale at PWCC followed by $240K sale at Goldin

Pat3ntP3nd1ng · 08-08-2021, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

$840K sale at PWCC followed by $240K sale at Goldin

Yeah proves more to the point of a manipulated sale. Most of the 10,s have been around the 250-300 range recently. There is no logical explanation to justify that as a legitimate sale at 840. Not even other outlier sales have been in that realm since the peak.

GOATcards · 08-08-2021, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat3ntP3nd1ng

Yeah proves more to the point of a manipulated sale. Most of the 10,s have been around the 250-300 range recently. There is no logical explanation to justify that as a legitimate sale at 840. Not even other outlier sales have been in that realm since the peak.

Repeating for the 2nd time, it's a PWCC-S

ohio_mba · 08-08-2021, 10:41 AM

Given that Jordan RCs are so easily counterfeited these days you would think that a PSA 8 would fetch a premium. At least a card graded in that range you would know is real.

sh403 · 08-08-2021, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GOATcards

Repeating for the 2nd time, it's a PWCC-S

A PWCC-S with a dinged up corner and vertical centering shift. I don’t doubt someone paid $840k for the card because it had a PWCC-S sticker on it, I just think that was a remarkably stupid purchase by whoever bought it

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Springerj23 Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Newburgh, IN Posts: 1,499	This discussion comes up on here every couple of years. One of the (6) BGS 10s would do $1M+ if it wasn’t deemed sheet cut. A Black Label 10, would set the basketball card sales price record, maybe all-time sports card price record.

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pachyderm Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 365	I heard Gary Vee will not be going to the National now! What is going to happen to all those people who bought Jordan Rookie PSA 10s to sell to him at the National??????

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ReggieBush22 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,527 lionpride	Sold my 1986 Fleer MJ PSA 9 for $28k. Reason I sold it is because I am way to wary of the counterfeits that keep getting better and better. And that is by far the most counterfeited card in the hobby. Just too much risk. Had these counterfeits not been so good, I would be all in on buying more of these and putting them away but as it stands, too risky for me.

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sh403 Member Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 292	Is it just me or does it look to anyone else like someone gave this PSA 10 a pretty bad haircut on the top left?: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Fleer-.../224538912285?