2019-20 Panini Chronicles Basketball- Pre-release Thread - Page 16

Retail Fool · 06-20-2020, 08:55 AM

It could just be to coincide better with the restarted season

(though i can't find where the push back has been announced)

Sticks33 · 06-20-2020, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by baseballbunez

Pushed back to 7/31

A full month late? Hmm. I'm sure Panini is looking at the market and trying to gauge when it'd do the best. A lot coming out soonish so maybe that's it.

ryan311 · 06-20-2020, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sticks33

A full month late? Hmm. I'm sure Panini is looking at the market and trying to gauge when it'd do the best. A lot coming out soonish so maybe that's it.

Maybe a delay is due to the rumors that they are reprinting more optic for release on july 1st at Walmarts.

bigjbasketball · 06-20-2020, 11:06 AM

They’re probably just trying to parcel things out a little better. No sense in releasing every remaining product at once, might as well spread them out so they all get enough attention at release.

EDIT - also, I think July 3rd was the original release date prior to any COVID shutdowns, so maybe they tried to push to keep that date but eventually realized they couldn’t catch up quickly enough. IMO they should put some resources into filling redemptions instead of pushing out so many new releases.

Sticks33 · 06-20-2020, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjbasketball

They’re probably just trying to parcel things out a little better. No sense in releasing every remaining product at once, might as well spread them out so they all get enough attention at release.

EDIT - also, I think July 3rd was the original release date prior to any COVID shutdowns, so maybe they tried to push to keep that date but eventually realized they couldn’t catch up quickly enough. IMO they should put some resources into filling redemptions instead of pushing out so many new releases.

100% agree. But where's the money in that?!?!

But seriously, they must be so far behind.

This whole "reprinting Optic" thing is perplexing. Would they really do that? If so, why not re-print prizm too? I don't get it. And wouldn't that also mess up their print runs (the numbered cards)?

KhalDrogo · 06-20-2020, 11:42 AM

I don’t believe for a second that they are reprinting Optic. Why would they go back and reprint a product that makes them no greater margin than whatever retail release is next?

As for redemptions, I saw someone post a Luka Immaculate redemption mailday on IG yesterday. So maybe they have started fulfilling again.

The Accountant · 06-20-2020, 11:48 AM

Chronicles is going to be HOT. I imagine they are probably planning to ramp up production with basketball starting back up too.

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boldon1 · 06-20-2020, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by baseballbunez

Pushed back to 7/31

You mean chronicles is pushed back to 7/31? Or some other product?

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baseballbunez · 06-20-2020, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by boldon1

You mean chronicles is pushed back to 7/31? Or some other product?

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Chronicles pushed back to 7/31. They shifted a lot of calendar around. Spectra 7/1, Chronicles Draft FB 7/10, Obsidian BKB 7/15, etc

psd2k10 · 06-20-2020, 12:20 PM

of course optic is not getting reprinted!

people who think optic is getting reprinted are the same people who think astronauts never walked on the moon.

TimBuckTwo · 06-20-2020, 12:23 PM

Where is this being seen as far as the updated release date?

brothertona · 06-20-2020, 12:28 PM

BlowoutBuzz has it for July 31st, that's where I usually go to see release dates.

Sticks33 · 06-20-2020, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

I don’t believe for a second that they are reprinting Optic. Why would they go back and reprint a product that makes them no greater margin than whatever retail release is next?

As for redemptions, I saw someone post a Luka Immaculate redemption mailday on IG yesterday. So maybe they have started fulfilling again.

I concur. No reason for it. Still, it is odd that we're seeing Optic product again. Perhaps they held some back...

bigjbasketball · 06-20-2020, 01:34 PM

There’s no chance they’re re-printing Optic. They probably just have some stock that hasn’t been put out in stores yet, happens all the time. I remember when Optic originally came out and I was looking for it everywhere and striking out, just about every Walmart I went to had new fat packs of 18-19 Hoops that hadn’t been there before. I think I picked up something like 45 fat packs at all those Walmarts in one day.

I don’t even really care when Chronicles releases, I just hope I can find something in stores, because from Prizm to Optic to Mosaic I found less and less each time. I found a good amount of Prizm within the first few weeks of release, then Optic I only found it in stores once (although I did get some online from both Target and Walmart). And with Mosaic, I never found anything. I’m not feeling good about my chances of finding Chronicles.

DJP73 · 06-20-2020, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan311

Maybe a delay is due to the rumors that they are reprinting more optic for release on july 1st at Walmarts.

Theres no way there reprinting Optic, Numbered cards would not allow it.

cardmole · 06-20-2020, 02:37 PM

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Theres no way there reprinting Optic, Numbered cards would not allow it.

Agree, but I don't think Wamart Megas had any #ed cards, so they could actually do it with these if they wanted to.

ryan311 · 06-20-2020, 03:40 PM

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Agree, but I don't think Wamart Megas had any #ed cards, so they could actually do it with these if they wanted to.

I agree as well that it makes no sense...just what I've seen people posting about in fb groups and someone posted a memo from MJ Holdings stating that optic would be reprinted and released back out in Walmarts on July 1st. If true, Panini has some major ethics issues.

drkwingd10 · 06-20-2020, 04:47 PM

I wouldn't mind it being delayed. Tired of looking for product to rip since December then going through the shortages of basic items when covid came along. I wouldn't be surprised if optic is reprinted since they were selling blasters from their site for $50. Greed is quite contagious. Be careful out there!

Spacemanspif · 06-20-2020, 04:58 PM

Due to shutdown they’re already behind on tons of releases and we’re starting to see releases pile up on top of one another. Why would they go backwards and fire up the press for a mini run of an older, lower margin product, and only give it to Walmart?

More likely story is a warehouse stash was uncovered, I’d even hear out a conspiracy theory that employees hid it / held it back and got caught. All the backdoor stories DID make it back to the higher levels which is why you started seeing limit policies at Target etc

DJP73 · 06-20-2020, 05:09 PM

I got news on Friday that going forward Retail will be Allocated also From Suppliers. Chronicles Football being the first one.

Eaglesfan371 · 06-20-2020, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJP73

I got news on Friday that going forward Retail will be Allocated also From Suppliers. Chronicles Football being the first one.

Shocked it wasn't already. Basically double your money every product. How was there not a limit in place by now.

Retail Fool · 06-20-2020, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DJP73

I got news on Friday that going forward Retail will be Allocated also From Suppliers. Chronicles Football being the first one.

Are you saying that every store will limit customers to how much they buy?

DJP73 · 06-20-2020, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Retail Fool

Are you saying that every store will limit customers to how much they buy?

NO, If you had accounts with distribuetors for Retail they are going to start Alocating how much you can buy case wise. We bought a lot of cases of Retail. Now for instance we can only get 1 Cello Case and 3 Blaster cases of Chronicles Football. I can understand the way products have exploded lately.

TSonn · 06-20-2020, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DJP73

NO, If you had accounts with distribuetors for Retail they are going to start Alocating how much you can buy case wise. We bought a lot of cases of Retail. Now for instance we can only get 1 Cello Case and 3 Blaster cases of Chronicles Football. I can understand the way products have exploded lately.

Hmm - I wonder if that means more product in the retail stores or if it means Panini will sell retail boxes at 5x MSRP on their own site.

glassofwater · 06-20-2020, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

Hmm - I wonder if that means more product in the retail stores or if it means Panini will sell retail boxes at 5x MSRP on their own site.

Probably the latter why let the sneakerbois get all the profit

06-20-2020, 08:55 AM	#376
Retail Fool Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 390	It could just be to coincide better with the restarted season (though i can't find where the push back has been announced) Last edited by Retail Fool; 06-20-2020 at 09:23 AM.

06-20-2020, 11:06 AM	#379
bigjbasketball Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5,293 BigJBasketball BigJBasketball	They’re probably just trying to parcel things out a little better. No sense in releasing every remaining product at once, might as well spread them out so they all get enough attention at release. EDIT - also, I think July 3rd was the original release date prior to any COVID shutdowns, so maybe they tried to push to keep that date but eventually realized they couldn’t catch up quickly enough. IMO they should put some resources into filling redemptions instead of pushing out so many new releases. __________________ Instagram: @BigJBasketball PC: Zo - Manu - Deni - Kobe - John Wallace Last edited by bigjbasketball; 06-20-2020 at 11:29 AM.

06-20-2020, 11:42 AM	#381
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,197	I don’t believe for a second that they are reprinting Optic. Why would they go back and reprint a product that makes them no greater margin than whatever retail release is next? As for redemptions, I saw someone post a Luka Immaculate redemption mailday on IG yesterday. So maybe they have started fulfilling again. __________________ I love PSA!

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06-20-2020, 01:34 PM	#389
bigjbasketball Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5,293 BigJBasketball BigJBasketball	There’s no chance they’re re-printing Optic. They probably just have some stock that hasn’t been put out in stores yet, happens all the time. I remember when Optic originally came out and I was looking for it everywhere and striking out, just about every Walmart I went to had new fat packs of 18-19 Hoops that hadn’t been there before. I think I picked up something like 45 fat packs at all those Walmarts in one day. I don’t even really care when Chronicles releases, I just hope I can find something in stores, because from Prizm to Optic to Mosaic I found less and less each time. I found a good amount of Prizm within the first few weeks of release, then Optic I only found it in stores once (although I did get some online from both Target and Walmart). And with Mosaic, I never found anything. I’m not feeling good about my chances of finding Chronicles. __________________ Instagram: @BigJBasketball PC: Zo - Manu - Deni - Kobe - John Wallace

06-20-2020, 12:20 PM	#385
psd2k10 Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,457	of course optic is not getting reprinted! people who think optic is getting reprinted are the same people who think astronauts never walked on the moon.

06-20-2020, 12:23 PM	#386
TimBuckTwo Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,083	Where is this being seen as far as the updated release date?

06-20-2020, 12:28 PM	#387
brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,957 brothertona1	BlowoutBuzz has it for July 31st, that's where I usually go to see release dates.

06-20-2020, 04:47 PM	#393
drkwingd10 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 59	I wouldn't mind it being delayed. Tired of looking for product to rip since December then going through the shortages of basic items when covid came along. I wouldn't be surprised if optic is reprinted since they were selling blasters from their site for $50. Greed is quite contagious. Be careful out there!

06-20-2020, 04:58 PM	#394
Spacemanspif Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 5,858 Spacemanspif	Due to shutdown they’re already behind on tons of releases and we’re starting to see releases pile up on top of one another. Why would they go backwards and fire up the press for a mini run of an older, lower margin product, and only give it to Walmart? More likely story is a warehouse stash was uncovered, I’d even hear out a conspiracy theory that employees hid it / held it back and got caught. All the backdoor stories DID make it back to the higher levels which is why you started seeing limit policies at Target etc

06-20-2020, 05:09 PM	#395
DJP73 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Woodbridge Va Posts: 2,799 djp73	I got news on Friday that going forward Retail will be Allocated also From Suppliers. Chronicles Football being the first one.