Where will Lebron go? - Page 16

mfw13 · 07-01-2018, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

Couldn’t Lebron just take the minimal contract (whatever that is) and join the Warriors? Not like he needs the money.

Not like the Warriors need/want LeBron either....would totally screw up their chemistry.

regularp · 07-01-2018, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

As stated before... what else is LA GIVING?

Because I’ll take Saric, Covnington, and the Miami first rounder every time

There isn’t a more overrated player on the planet than Ingram and that unprotected pick is gold

OK

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Originally Posted by tjforce

A. They absolutely could..... Embiid.

B. You are assuming LA is offering Kuzma and Ingram, which I've never heard a reliable report of.

C. They still wouldn't come anywhere near trading Simmons for a 1 year rental of Kawhi.

Lol @ the thought of Philly trading Embiid.

mfw13 · 07-01-2018, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JackThree

Let's see, Leonard and the Spurs have a "broken marriage ". Teams know that. Leonard has stated he'll only resign with two teams, Lakers and Clippers.

Well, at this time last season PG13 was saying that he would only sign with the Lakers....what players say they are going to do in free agency and what they end up deciding to do after spending 6-8 months with their new team are often very different things.

RogerGodahell · 07-01-2018, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by regularp

That's fine if that's how you want to approach it, but Philly can't match Kuzma/Ingram if Simmons isn't involved.

They can offer a strong potential #1 bust with a broken shot who may be mentally weak as well.

blinkme323 · 07-01-2018, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

They can offer a strong potential #1 bust with a broken shot who may be mentally weak as well.

That’s conjecture at this point. But if the offers are close and the Spurs don’t have to ship Kawhi to someone else in the West? They will choose the Sixers all day every day...

Siberian13 · 07-01-2018, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Union would love that

Since LeBron is the vice president and all...

And yes that’s a big time consideration. He can’t take a 1/100th market value contract, and lead the union, since he is mega rich

I say do it

I want the basketball sections reaction to this

ninjacookies · 07-01-2018, 05:04 PM

Covington is a great defender - and also the streakiest 3 point camping wing man in the league. He is essentially a minus version of Roberson.

I'm sure some squad can find value in that, but I'm not seeing where he's a hugely sought piece for any franchise.

Ingram's worth at this point is 3-4x what Covington's is...and I'm probably being conservative with that estimation.

tjforce · 07-01-2018, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by regularp

OK

Lol @ the thought of Philly trading Embiid.

Not any more absurd than the thought of them trading Simmons.

Neither of which is the least bit realistic.

RogerGodahell · 07-01-2018, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

I say do it

I want the basketball sections reaction to this

Not everyone is like Tom Brady and willing to take less money to win. Plus he doesn't have enough money yet to retire comfortably he's currently only @ $400M.

asujbl · 07-01-2018, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Covington is a great defender - and also the streakiest 3 point camping wing man in the league. He is essentially a minus version of Roberson.

I'm sure some squad can find value in that, but I'm not seeing where he's a hugely sought piece for any franchise.

Ingram's worth at this point is 3-4x what Covington's is...and I'm probably being conservative with that estimation.

Luckily Saric and the Miami pick are the pieces.

Covington is the Jae Crowder

drobfan8 · 07-01-2018, 05:49 PM

Brett Brown is a Spurs guy so a deal with SA is a great chance of happening. They would be looking to cut a reasonable deal.

I'd be concerned about Kawhi though, if he's sick of Pop, why would you go to his understudy?

ninjacookies · 07-01-2018, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Luckily Saric and the Miami pick are the pieces.

Covington is the Jae Crowder

Saric is solid. I think he can be a very good contributor to most franchises. I think his ceiling is limited though and what we see now is what we can probably expect from here on out as he's a typical euro guy with solid fundamentals that doesn't rely on extreme athletics to get by.

I think Ingram by himself trumps both Saric and Roco by a landslide though. You're talking a number 2 pick that's still a kid with amazing length and superstar upside. And he still has yet to fill into his frame.

I get that a Miami pick would be involved, but those other 2 pieces aren't really huge in my book unless a team has a real pressing need at either position.

tjforce · 07-01-2018, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Covington is a great defender - and also the streakiest 3 point camping wing man in the league. He is essentially a minus version of Roberson.

I'm sure some squad can find value in that, but I'm not seeing where he's a hugely sought piece for any franchise.

Ingram's worth at this point is 3-4x what Covington's is...and I'm probably being conservative with that estimation.

I have to ask this... what makes Covington a minus version of Roberson?

Covington was All-Defense 1st team this year.

Roberson was All-Defense 2nd team in 2016.

Covington averages 12.7 PPG over his career.

Roberson averages 4.6 PPG over his career.

Covington gets 5.5 Rebounds per game.

Roberson gets 4.0 Rebounds per game.

Seems to me like Roberson is the minus version of Covington.

asujbl · 07-01-2018, 06:54 PM

I’d rather have Saric over Ingram and that doesn’t even factor in the rest of the trade. Ingram is so ridiculously overrated.

I’d rather have Ball if his dad didn’t exist. Ingram is a consolation.

Difference of opinion

asujbl · 07-01-2018, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

I have to ask this... what makes Covington a minus version of Roberson?

Covington was All-Defense 1st team this year.

Roberson was All-Defense 2nd team in 2016.

Covington averages 12.7 PPG over his career.

Roberson averages 4.6 PPG over his career.

Covington gets 5.5 Rebounds per game.

Roberson gets 4.0 Rebounds per game.

Seems to me like Roberson is the minus version of Covington.

This

People over overvaluing Lakers (shocker) and undervaluing the Sixers

yiguiri2002 · 07-01-2018, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

I’d rather have Saric over Ingram and that doesn’t even factor in the rest of the trade. Ingram
Is so ridiculously overrated.

I’d rather have Ball if his dad didn’t exist. Ingram is a consolation.

Difference of opinion

That's two of us. I can see either side: one is younger with more potential and less production. Same with Jaylen Brown (although Brown is ahead of Ingram right now) and Jamal Murray.

asujbl · 07-01-2018, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

That's two of us. I can see either side: one is younger with more potential and less production. Same with Jaylen Brown (although Brown is ahead of Ingram right now) and Jamal Murray.

If you were ranking “pieces” between the 3 teams (I’ll ignore what else Boston has to offer... just saying Brown)

Brown
Saric
Ingram
Covington
Kuzma
Fultz
Hart

Oh and the unprotected Miami pick is probably 4th on that list ahead of Covington

jdandns · 07-01-2018, 07:12 PM

I'll say the LA Lakers.

JMarchand1981 · 07-01-2018, 07:13 PM

It's the lakers.

JMarchand1981 · 07-01-2018, 07:13 PM

Espn just reported it.

JMarchand1981 · 07-01-2018, 07:14 PM

Severino brings the heat.

Edit: wrong thread

jlzinck · 07-01-2018, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JMarchand1981

It's the lakers.

Helen Keller saw this coming

mfw13 · 07-01-2018, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

I'd be concerned about Kawhi though, if he's sick of Pop, why would you go to his understudy?

This.

Because of his actions last year, Kawhi now has the "potential attitude problem" label attached. Never mind the question marks about his health.

Pre-2017 Kawhi is a great acquisition.

2017-18 Kawhi comes with huge question marks attached.

ninjacookies · 07-01-2018, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

I have to ask this... what makes Covington a minus version of Roberson?

Covington was All-Defense 1st team this year.

Roberson was All-Defense 2nd team in 2016.

Covington averages 12.7 PPG over his career.

Roberson averages 4.6 PPG over his career.

Covington gets 5.5 Rebounds per game.

Roberson gets 4.0 Rebounds per game.

Seems to me like Roberson is the minus version of Covington.

Fair enough.

But those 12.7ppg come at the expense of atrocious shooting and oftentimes at the detriment of the team. I've seen more than enough sixers games courtesy of DFS to know this.

Roberson is a one trick pony, but at least he knows his limitations.

Both are pretty meh if you ask me. Essentially both him and Saric are not game changers for the Spurs.

Roco is Danny Green and Saric will ride the tar as long as Lamarcus is in town.

No way in heck the Spurs are giving up a top 3 league player for those 2 and a draft pick, imo.

regularp · 07-01-2018, 10:22 PM

The guys saying Covington and Saric plus the Miami pick is a better deal than Ingram and Kuzma are delusional. No team in the association would agree with that.

Ingram put up 47%/39% shooting splits while showing a lot of versatility at age 20. Going purely by the numbers, he's ahead of where Giannis and Kawhi were at the same age.

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asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 62,474 ohiosundevils	I’d rather have Saric over Ingram and that doesn’t even factor in the rest of the trade. Ingram is so ridiculously overrated. I’d rather have Ball if his dad didn’t exist. Ingram is a consolation. Difference of opinion __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

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ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 56,612	Covington is a great defender - and also the streakiest 3 point camping wing man in the league. He is essentially a minus version of Roberson. I'm sure some squad can find value in that, but I'm not seeing where he's a hugely sought piece for any franchise. Ingram's worth at this point is 3-4x what Covington's is...and I'm probably being conservative with that estimation.

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JMarchand1981 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 34,438	It's the lakers.

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JMarchand1981 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 34,438	Severino brings the heat. Edit: wrong thread

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regularp Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,150	The guys saying Covington and Saric plus the Miami pick is a better deal than Ingram and Kuzma are delusional. No team in the association would agree with that. Ingram put up 47%/39% shooting splits while showing a lot of versatility at age 20. Going purely by the numbers, he's ahead of where Giannis and Kawhi were at the same age.