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Old 07-19-2021, 10:28 PM   #3926
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Looks like MJ rookies are picking up some steam. A PSA 9 just sold today on Ebay from PWCC for close to 30k and that was with a cracked case and OC.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Fleer-...-127632-2357-0

PSA 9s bottomed out at about 18k a month ago. They were 25kish a couple weeks back. Now it looks like they are near the 30k mark.
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Old 07-19-2021, 10:45 PM   #3927
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Looks like MJ rookies are picking up some steam. A PSA 9 just sold today on Ebay from PWCC for close to 30k and that was with a cracked case and OC.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Fleer-...-127632-2357-0

PSA 9s bottomed out at about 18k a month ago. They were 25kish a couple weeks back. Now it looks like they are near the 30k mark.
We’re back!!!!!!! The dip is over!!!!!!!! To the moon!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-19-2021, 10:55 PM   #3928
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We’re back!!!!!!! The dip is over!!!!!!!! To the moon!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-19-2021, 11:53 PM   #3929
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We’re back!!!!!!! The dip is over!!!!!!!! To the moon!!!!!!!!!!!

YESSSSS!!!!
The low population of 320+ is not nearly enough to satisfy the demand for all the multi-millionaires who are ready to buy a PSA 10 Jordan RC for $1M!
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Old 07-20-2021, 12:43 AM   #3930
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Something is definitely up. Listed a PSA 7 for 7k, got bought within the hour.
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Old 07-20-2021, 08:02 AM   #3931
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Something is definitely up. Listed a PSA 7 for 7k, got bought within the hour.

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Old 07-20-2021, 08:44 AM   #3932
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Is it possible that dealers are just trying to inflate prices weeks before the biggest show of the year aka The National?

People want to use eBay for pricing and buy the dip, but if there's no dip anymore, dealers can ask whatever they want again....

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Old 07-20-2021, 08:45 AM   #3933
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Is it possible that dealers are just trying to inflate prices weeks before the biggest show of the year aka The National?

People want to use eBay for pricing and buy the dip, but if there's no dip anymore, dealers can ask whatever they want again....

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this is exactly what is happening but this is the cycle and how things work
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Old 07-20-2021, 08:50 AM   #3934
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Is it possible that dealers are just trying to inflate prices weeks before the biggest show of the year aka The National?

People want to use eBay for pricing and buy the dip, but if there's no dip anymore, dealers can ask whatever they want again....

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Ironic how Gary Vee just so happens to get into cards again about three weeks before the National kicks off. The "pump" factor with cards and the amount of novice sheep that hang on these peoples word is truly mind boggling to me.

You would be absolutely correct with your comment.
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Old 07-20-2021, 08:53 AM   #3935
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I had a 9.5 (9 cent) copy get a $50k offer on Saturday morning, which I didn't think much of until the PSA 10 sell that evening via PWCC. Also saw a 9.5 (10 cent) did $55k last night so that would be in line assuming both get paid for.

I haven't received payment yet, but that doesn't mean anything.
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Old 07-20-2021, 09:26 AM   #3936
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National pump is certainly a real thing.

For this card though, sounds like the plan is to attempt a cross to a BGS 10.
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Old 07-20-2021, 01:47 PM   #3937
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For this card though, sounds like the plan is to attempt a cross to a BGS 10.
Can you imagine if he attempted a crossover and it came back as the first Black Label 10 Fleer Jordan RC?! How much would that be worth?

Pretty sure that won't happen but fun to think about...
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Old 07-20-2021, 01:50 PM   #3938
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You guys watch the Vegas Dave/investacard teeth guy IG live?
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Old 07-20-2021, 02:25 PM   #3939
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I had a 9.5 (9 cent) copy get a $50k offer on Saturday morning, which I didn't think much of until the PSA 10 sell that evening via PWCC. Also saw a 9.5 (10 cent) did $55k last night so that would be in line assuming both get paid for.

I haven't received payment yet, but that doesn't mean anything.

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Old 07-20-2021, 06:11 PM   #3940
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We shall see, 3 days for a $50k card one eBay to get paid isn’t long.
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Old 07-20-2021, 07:04 PM   #3941
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Huh? Maybe you’ve never sold a high end card before but 3-4 days waiting to receive payment on a $50k+ deal is pretty normal through eBay
The way you worded the original statement also implies you don't have a clear expectation of when you'll receive that payment. I haven't ever sold anything for $50k, but I have been in enough transactions of significant value (both buying and selling) that I feel like standard practice is to at least be in communication and set expectations of when payment will be made. i.e. "I have to transfer money from brokerage to checking, I should be able to wire the money on Thursday". It's been 3 days, which seems like quite a lot of time to not be in contact with someone over such a large amount of money. Maybe I read it wrong.
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Old 07-20-2021, 07:39 PM   #3942
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National pump is certainly a real thing.

For this card though, sounds like the plan is to attempt a cross to a BGS 10.
Never gonna happen with the dinged up bottom right corner and the top-bottom centering shift on that card
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Old 07-20-2021, 07:45 PM   #3943
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Never gonna happen with the dinged up bottom right corner and the top-bottom centering shift on that card
May be the buyer knows someone at BGS
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Old 07-20-2021, 07:52 PM   #3944
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The way you worded the original statement also implies you don't have a clear expectation of when you'll receive that payment. I haven't ever sold anything for $50k, but I have been in enough transactions of significant value (both buying and selling) that I feel like standard practice is to at least be in communication and set expectations of when payment will be made. i.e. "I have to transfer money from brokerage to checking, I should be able to wire the money on Thursday". It's been 3 days, which seems like quite a lot of time to not be in contact with someone over such a large amount of money. Maybe I read it wrong.
Ahhh I hear ya. It was worded that way because it sold through my PWCC Vault. I have no idea who the buyer was. My rep said it looks legit tho. It’s not a situation I can contact the buyer directly.
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Ahhh I hear ya. It was worded that way because it sold through my PWCC Vault. I have no idea who the buyer was. My rep said it looks legit tho. It’s not a situation I can contact the buyer directly.

Ah gotcha, that makes more sense now. Any idea how long it takes for a non paid item to go back to your portfolio? Timing still seems sus, and if people are manipulating price charts heading into National this seems way too easy to do, and has your asset tied up while prices are spiking (leaving their cards as the only ones available). I have a Giannis unpaid for a week now that I would love to relist. Of course would be my luck if buyer comes out of left field to pay
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Old 07-21-2021, 12:57 AM   #3946
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Yeah.... something doesn't make sense.

PSA 8s were inching near $7000 and a Best offer at $10,000 and BIN at $15,000 the past couple days.

Doesn't make sense...something to keep an eye on.
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Old 07-21-2021, 04:34 AM   #3947
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Jordan fleer rookie psa 10 sold for $212k in iconic auctions last month so let’s see how much the next few sales go for.
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Old 07-21-2021, 05:28 AM   #3948
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Looks like MJ rookies are picking up some steam. A PSA 9 just sold today on Ebay from PWCC for close to 30k and that was with a cracked case and OC.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Fleer-...-127632-2357-0

PSA 9s bottomed out at about 18k a month ago. They were 25kish a couple weeks back. Now it looks like they are near the 30k mark.
One sale at $29k is not picking up steam. Look at all the 8’s and 9’s and they are still selling for $7-8k for 8’s and 9’s are $24-25k. Feel badly for people who got duped back in January-March on the fake sales numbers just so a company could try to look better.
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One sale at $29k is not picking up steam. Look at all the 8’s and 9’s and they are still selling for $7-8k for 8’s and 9’s are $24-25k. Feel badly for people who got duped back in January-March on the fake sales numbers just so a company could try to look better.
I want to see at least 10 sales of PSA 10 for $800K plus before I believe it is headed towards 1 million. It is all manipulation until then!
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Old 07-21-2021, 10:38 AM   #3950
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I want to see at least 10 sales of PSA 10 for $800K plus before I believe it is headed towards 1 million. It is all manipulation until then!
You won’t see that... as stated before there are psa 10’s that shouldn’t be graded as 10’s, moving forward I really don’t know how this is going to play out. Really bad thou that all 10’s aren’t on the same level. Will suck to see 200k-300k gaps between sales of Psa 10’s as to eye appeal.... plus the psa 10 that goldin pulled last auction to be sent back to Psa doesn’t help. I guess u can subtract one from the pop report as that one will be deducted.
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