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Old 08-02-2016, 06:15 PM   #3851
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:15 PM   #3852
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While your statement isn't wrong, it is quite telling that someone who willfully ignores all of the evidence that the Clintons are downright deplorable people.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:16 PM   #3853
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Went ahead and fixed that for you
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:17 PM   #3854
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The "modern" arguments of today's GOP as to why their ticket should be elected:

Whitewater!!!!
Whitewater!!!!
Travelgate!!!!
Travelgate!!!!
Vince Foster Murdered!!!!
96 others murdered by Bill and Hillary!!!
(That we know of!!!)
Bill protested the US involvement in Vietnam on foreign soil!!!
Lewinski!!!
Lewinski!!!
Saul Alinsky!!!
Saul Alinksy!!!
BENGHAZI!!!!!
BENGHAZI!!!!!
Email servers!!!!
Email servers!!!!
Clinton Cash!!!!
Clinton Cash!!!

You can see why they are in the state they are in. With no accomplishments of their own to point to, hysterical, long ago disproven allegations and non-starting new ones against the opposing candidate wholly comprise the substance of their arguments for their own candidate, a man whom an increasing majority of Republicans themselves do not like.

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Old 08-02-2016, 06:17 PM   #3855
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Yea, violating people's privacy! That's obviously a Libertarian point of view. Which is ironic.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:19 PM   #3856
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Yea, violating people's privacy! That's obviously a Libertarian point of view. Which is ironic.
Baaaaaaaaaaaa
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:21 PM   #3857
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The "modern" arguments of today's GOP as to why their ticket should be elected:

Whitewater!!!!
Whitewater!!!!
Travelgate!!!!
Travelgate!!!!
Vince Foster Murdered!!!!
96 others murdered by Bill and Hillary!!!
(That we know of!!!)
Bill protested the US involvement in Vietnam on foreign soil!!!
Lewinski!!!
Lewinski!!!
Saul Alinsky!!!
Saul Alinksy!!!
BENGHAZI!!!!!
BENGHAZI!!!!!
Email servers!!!!
Email servers!!!!
Clinton Cash!!!!
Clinton Cash!!!

You can see why they are in the state they are in. With no accomplishments of their own to point to, hysterical, long ago disproven allegations and non-starting new ones against the opposing candidate wholly comprise the substance of their arguments for their own candidate, a man whom an increasing majority of Republicans themselves do not like.

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Wait. Pgisbacks constant update of The Donald's Twitter timeline is any different.

What exactly has been "disproven" about travelgate? Or are you just trying to marginalize it by claiming it's just rhetoric/propaganda to make people believe you???
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:22 PM   #3858
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Baaaaaaaaaaaa
What's funny is back in the day the Republicans were all about America. Now they're fine with espionage and some commie country helping them win an election. That's crazy how far they have fallen.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:24 PM   #3859
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What's funny is back in the day the Republicans were all about America. Now they're fine with espionage and some commie country helping them win an election. That's crazy how far they have fallen.
They could fall in a volcano and still have to dig to get to the Clintons.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:26 PM   #3860
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They could fall in a volcano and still have to dig to get to the Clintons.
Yea, you're a cultist. Good luck with that comrade.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:26 PM   #3861
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Rock that spin machine however you need bro-ham.
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Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Hillary had a little lamb...Baaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:28 PM   #3863
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The "modern" arguments of today's GOP as to why their ticket should be elected:

Whitewater!!!!
Whitewater!!!!
Travelgate!!!!
Travelgate!!!!
Vince Foster Murdered!!!!
96 others murdered by Bill and Hillary!!!
(That we know of!!!)
Bill protested the US involvement in Vietnam on foreign soil!!!
Lewinski!!!
Lewinski!!!
Saul Alinsky!!!
Saul Alinksy!!!
BENGHAZI!!!!!
BENGHAZI!!!!!
Email servers!!!!
Email servers!!!!
Clinton Cash!!!!
Clinton Cash!!!

You can see why they are in the state they are in. With no accomplishments of their own to point to, hysterical, long ago disproven allegations and non-starting new ones against the opposing candidate wholly comprise the substance of their arguments for their own candidate, a man whom an increasing majority of Republicans themselves do not like.

2016 Republican Politics:



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2016 Democratic Politics:



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Just can't see how anyone could be so stupid to vote for someone who can be bought and has been bought by big corporations. Clinton is not going to run Washington if she wins. She has been bought and is nothing, but a puppet. Hopefully someday people will wake up and understand why well paying jobs left America. The people running this country are only in it for themselves. Continue working your 9-5 and never getting ahead. Say what you want about Trump, but don't see big donors flocking to fill his pockets. Wake up and realize why.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:29 PM   #3864
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What exactly has been "disproven" about travelgate? Or are you just trying to marginalize it by claiming it's just rhetoric/propaganda to make people believe you???
Not disproven, per se, but utterly meaningless today, except to the odd cadre of pathological Clinton haters, which houses you in their number, apparently.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:30 PM   #3865
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Just can't see how anyone could be so stupid to vote for someone who can be bought and has been bought by big corporations. Clinton is not going to run Washington if she wins. She has been bought and is nothing, but a puppet. Hopefully someday people will wake up and understand why well paying jobs left America. The people running this country are only in it for themselves. Continue working your 9-5 and never getting ahead. Say what you want about Trump, but don't see big donors flocking to fill his pockets. Wake up and realize why.
Umm, I did the best I could.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:31 PM   #3866
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While your statement isn't wrong, it is quite telling that someone who willfully ignores all of the evidence that the Clintons are downright deplorable people.


I have not gotten around to watching Clinton Cash yet, but most of the evidence I've seen presented of how evil the Clintons are is tenuous. They have been in the spotlight for over 20 years, in positions where people are constantly looking for flaws, and the best (realistic) accusations people can make are that they attempted to replace some staffers with people they trust? That Hillary relayed bad information to Patricia Smith the day after the Benghazi attack? These just don't seem like horrific things to me. Seems like they are doing their best.

Trump is different. While the Clintons MIGHT be shady behind closed doors, Trump constantly says horrific things while the spotlight is directed at him. And then he doubles down. There is just no reasonable deniability as to how awful he is, and people are going to tell their children, "yes, we knew exactly how hateful he was, and we voted for him anyways"?

I support your decision to vote for Gary Johnson. He seems like a reasonable option to me. If I believed Hillary was as awful as you think she is he would probably be my choice.


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Old 08-02-2016, 06:32 PM   #3867
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Eh, I'm just glad you're keepin' busy with your cherry picking.
It's not going to help. Maybe you and Astro19 can get together, play some checkers, and discuss ways to help him in his continuing quest to murder our language.
Yes, because picking 9 out of his 10 posts on a single page is cherry picking

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Old 08-02-2016, 06:34 PM   #3868
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Not disproven, per se, but utterly meaningless today, except to the odd cadre of pathological Clinton haters, which houses you in their number, apparently.
Yep. Completely meaningless to unjustly fire people. Great moral character. Extremely "presidential." Never mind the amount of complete flip flops in her positions and then completely lying about flip flopping on those positions. Again, completely Presidential.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:36 PM   #3869
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I think we've established that PG is not old enough to vote (thankfully) and that Jdan is part of the Clinton campaign. Or he's just one of those crazies who is so blinded by the establishment he can't even see what he's typing anymore
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:41 PM   #3870
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I bet she's paying him to post, I know I saw some craigslist ad somewhere
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:44 PM   #3871
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I have not gotten around to watching Clinton Cash yet, but most of the evidence I've seen presented of how evil the Clintons are is tenuous. They have been in the spotlight for over 20 years, in positions where people are constantly looking for flaws, and the best (realistic) accusations people can make are that they attempted to replace some staffers with people they trust? That Hillary relayed bad information to Patricia Smith the day after the Benghazi attack? These just don't seem like horrific things to me. Seems like they are doing their best.

Trump is different. While the Clintons MIGHT be shady behind closed doors, Trump constantly says horrific things while the spotlight is directed at him. And then he doubles down. There is just no reasonable deniability as to how awful he is, and people are going to tell their children, "yes, we knew exactly how hateful he was, and we voted for him anyways"?

I support your decision to vote for Gary Johnson. He seems like a reasonable option to me. If I believed Hillary was as awful as you think she is he would probably be my choice.


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Appreciate the measured and reasonable response. I'd love if people wouldn't mistake me for a Trump apologist/sycophant. I'm far from it. I dislike Trump and Clinton equally. They're both, in my opinion, deplorable people.

While I agree many of the negatives associated with The Clintons can be classified as tenuous, I'm a firm believer in where there's smoke there's fire. Add on the fact that Hillary is the biggest warhawk of all the candidates, I just can't even consider her. The military spending needs to be reigned in, and Hillary (regardless of what her current position is now) isn't going to do that.
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Appreciate the measured and reasonable response. I'd love if people wouldn't mistake me for a Trump apologist/sycophant. I'm far from it. I dislike Trump and Clinton equally. They're both, in my opinion, deplorable people.

While I agree many of the negatives associated with The Clintons can be classified as tenuous, I'm a firm believer in where there's smoke there's fire. Add on the fact that Hillary is the biggest warhawk of all the candidates, I just can't even consider her. The military spending needs to be reigned in, and Hillary (regardless of what her current position is now) isn't going to do that.
#1 and #2 on her shitlist are Syria and Venezuela. I'd be willing to bet if she's elected Assad is gone within a year. We're going to see a steep increase in ground troops in Syria
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:50 PM   #3873
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Yes, because picking 9 out of his 10 posts on a single page is cherry picking

Lmaoooooo
Cherry-picked the page then, man. That is not indicative of his overall argument and you know it. If it was, you guys would've stopped responding to him long ago.

For the most part, I don't feel the need to drag Trump through the mud as much as PG does. Donnie's an expert at finding it himself.

Lmaooooo, J?
No?
Well, how about lmaoooo?
(That's one less "o" for "off", if that helps.)
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I think we've established that PG is not old enough to vote (thankfully) and that Jdan is part of the Clinton campaign. Or he's just one of those crazies who is so blinded by the establishment he can't even see what he's typing anymore
The GOP is the establishment. They've never blinded me. They've opened my eyes.
Democrats are well-meaning, but not always correct. They make plenty of mistakes, and I do not always agree with them.

Today's Republicans, on the other hand, want to go back in time, to a world that never was. I'm glad Trump has happened to them for that reason. In a sense, it was inevitable.

Maybe by 2020, they'll have finally joined this century. Failing to gain the White House might not be enough, but if they lose the Senate, too, that might be enough to give them the shock they need. The United States of America needs Republicans, just not these ones.
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This is the first (and possibly only) time I've been in the thread.

Why is the poll public?
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