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[pgisback]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

I don't find it weird at all. What I find weird are people that are fine with the status quo. I find it weird that people are fine with a system that was purposefully created to divide us between "us" and "them." I find it weird that people are completely "fine" with steadily acquiescing their liberty for a false sense of security that only extends the power of those in authority. I find it weird that people want to continue to see their elected officials have 1 gigantic circle jerk with their buddies and backers at the expense of the ordinary american citizen.

I've never been the kind of laughable rube that blindly accepts that I must be right because people "agree with me." That's for people that want to be controlled and want to have masters. I'm not that man.

Yea, that's the 1-2% mentality. I believe organization, education, and understanding is what creates such a powerful nation. And really educated people out there disagree with a lot of the stuff you guys are saying. I'm smart enough to know I'm not smart enough to know everything. So I listen to people I find that are credible, intelligent, and understand the world around them.

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

I'm sorry but how dare you. How dare you tell me how to vote or call my vote a throw away vote. If I choose to vote for Trump, Clinton, Johnson, or Stein, that is my choice and my choice alone. You have come across a bit of a pompous ass in this thread but this comment takes the cake.

You wanna call someone out for intolerance, look in the mirror. Telling someone that they are wasting a vote, where did you get your high horse?

Nothing is more infuriating than the incompetent clowns that want to ridicule someone for voting their choice. The people that do so are spineless sheep that refuse to embrace real empowerment. They want to be in their safe little pens watched over by their chosen shepherds and sheep dogs.

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by pgisback

Yea, that's the 1-2% mentality. I believe organization, education, and understanding is what creates such a powerful nation. And really educated people out there disagree with a lot of the stuff you guys are saying. I'm smart enough to know I'm not smart enough to know everything. So I listen to people I find that are credible, intelligent, and understand the world around them.

You believe in taking the blue pill. It's ok. The other 98% does to. That makes it right.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

The Obamacare collapse continues

Aetna latest insurer to question Obamacare's future - Aug. 2, 2016

So now I will be paying even more?

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

Nothing is more infuriating than the incompetent clowns that want to ridicule someone for voting their choice. The people that do so are spineless sheep that refuse to embrace real empowerment. They want to be in their safe little pens watched over by their chosen shepherds and sheep dogs.

Libertarian talk for people shouldn't have opinions and just smoke meth and walk around naked.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

So now I will be paying even more?

Seeing as how Aetna is projecting $300m+ in losses directly due to Obamacare I think it's safe to say that you'll be paying more.

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

You believe in taking the blue pill. It's ok. The other 98% does to. That makes it right.

Well, if you think you're more knowledgeable than 98% of people, more power to you. Crazy people have the same thought process.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Seeing as how Aetna is projecting $300m+ in losses directly due to Obamacare I think it's safe to say that you'll be paying more.

Is it true that by 2017 all healthcare costs will go up due to obamacare?

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Is it true that by 2017 all healthcare costs will go up due to obamacare?

Yes, that is true.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Is it true that by 2017 all healthcare costs will go up due to obamacare?

If Hillary gets elected you can bank on having 4 more years of double digit increases, too! Sounds fun, right?

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by pgisback

Libertarian talk for people shouldn't have opinions and just smoke meth and walk around naked.

I enjoy the fact that you can't refute anything I've said. Please, go on. So far I'm a tweaker nudist. I'd like to see where this goes

[jcardstore]

The study, the first of its kind to look at millions of enrollees across the country, found that Obamacare members have higher rates of costly illnesses such as diabetes, depression, hypertension, heart disease, HIV and Hepatitis C.
They also use more medical services -- including emergency rooms, in-patient hospital care, doctors and prescriptions than patients in employer-sponsored plans. Their cost of care was 22% higher than those in work-based health plans in 2015, or $559 a month, on average, for Obamacare enrollees versus $457 for those in employer plans.

Who would have thought?

[chezball]

Originally Posted by pgisback

They've been attacking the Clinton's for two decades. Benghazi is literally the most partisan political ploy I've ever seen in politics. I literally like Clinton more because of her ability to handle that level of attack. She has no military experience. She does not have any say in how much security is needed or how to react to an attack from terrorists. It is disgusting what the Republicans did with Benghazi. So no, I don't care about that issue.

Clinton Cash. Trash conspiracy theories. No evidence of anything. Bill Clinton was a two term President that is well liked throughout the world. He used that notoriety to build a foundation that deals with foreign countries issues. Is it a possible conflict of interest? Sure, but that's why Hillary dropped out of the Clinton Foundation for her Presidential run. Is there any merit to those conspiracies, absolutely not. Like 9/11 truthers or birthers.

Her email thing, the FBI settled that. On the bottom of my list of things I care about.

Being a public figure for so long, there are definitely issues, and she's definitely said things she shouldn't. But the people around her, the people that know her most, say she is as qualified as it gets to be President of the United States. So I take their word for it more than conservative conspiracy theories.

So let's look at Bill's record.
He gave us NAFTA how many jobs did it cost the US worker, millions of jobs.
Who was he a Democrat.
He also gave China (Favorite Nation Status) which started the ball rolling on the trade imbalance we now have with China. He's the main reason everything is made in China now. How many jobs were lost with this, millions.
He also let the banks and brokerage houses merge which gave us "TOO BIG TO FAIL" we all know how that worked out. How many jobs were lost because of this.
Now hrc was for TPP, she flip flopped on this issue when bernie forced her to the left on this issue.
She said that bill will handle the economy if she wins. So you know they will push for TTP, because he gave you NAFTA. It's OK to pull the curtain back and see what behind it.

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by pgisback

Well, if you think you're more knowledgeable than 98% of people, more power to you. Crazy people have the same thought process.

I'm pretty sure my standardized test scores would support that assertion, but please continue to try and marginalize me. Would you like to hear about how I set the curve on a national professional Board Certification exam while having a beer during the required intermission and finished before anyone else?

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

I'm pretty sure my standardized test scores would support that assertion, but please continue to try and marginalize me. Would you like to hear about how I set the curve on a national professional Board Certification exam while having a beer during the required intermission and finished before anyone else?

There's smart crazy people out there. But one should question why 98-99% of the population thinks differently. If you think you're that special, more power to you.

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

I enjoy the fact that you can't refute anything I've said. Please, go on. So far I'm a tweaker nudist. I'd like to see where this goes

What have you said that I haven't refuted. And I was just joking about that. Libertarians are usually weird people that want to cook meth in their backyard or walk around naked.

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by chezball

So let's look at Bill's record.
He gave us NAFTA how many jobs did it cost the US worker, millions of jobs.
Who was he a Democrat.
He also gave China (Favorite Nation Status) which started the ball rolling on the trade imbalance we now have with China. He's the main reason everything is made in China now. How many jobs were lost with this, millions.
He also let the banks and brokerage houses merge which gave us "TOO BIG TO FAIL" we all know how that worked out. How many jobs were lost because of this.
Now hrc was for TPP, she flip flopped on this issue when bernie forced her to the left on this issue.
She said that bill will handle the economy if she wins. So you know they will push for TTP, because he gave you NAFTA. It's OK to pull the curtain back and see what behind it.

Oh there's negatives about a President? Who would have thought. Lol. And NAFTA was Bush's idea and a conservative plan. Republicans love cheap foreign labor. Just look at your comrade Trump.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by pgisback

You're in Ohio, your vote actually matters. Voting third party is a vote for Trump. Don't be that guy.

Seriously, back off and stop looking down on people. Both parties did a piss poor job of picking their candidates. The RNC candidate ran on fear and empty promises. The DNC candidate was hand picked and the people really had no choice. Both are untrustworthy and have done NOTHING to earn my vote. I vote for who I believe in, not for some fantasy scenario or because I hate one candidate or another. If Trump wins then the Dems only have themselves to blame for putting up Clinton with all her baggage.

If everyone voted for Johnson or Stein who claim to hate both candidates, one or both of them would have a strong showing. But no, we have people who complain about a two party system but do nothing to change it. Maybe that's one of the big issues this country faces, nobody puts their money where their mouth is.

Either way, stop telling people how to vote. Stop saying people are wasting their vote on a third party candidate. If all Clinton supporters were as TOXIC as you, she would get CRUSHED. You're a terrible spokesperson for her.

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by pgisback

What have you said that I haven't refuted. And I was just joking about that. Libertarians are usually weird people that want to cook meth in their backyard or walk around naked.

So, stereotypes are OK when you make them up to fit your agenda. Good to know. Carry on, and God bless

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

So, stereotypes are OK when you make them up to fit your agenda. Good to know. Carry on, and God bless

I was just joking. But if you're taking this, this seriously, I'll back off. Sorry bud.

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Seriously, back off and stop looking down on people. Both parties did a piss poor job of picking their candidates. The RNC candidate ran on fear and empty promises. The DNC candidate was hand picked and the people really had no choice. Both are untrustworthy and have done NOTHING to earn my vote. I vote for who I believe in, not for some fantasy scenario or because I hate one candidate or another. If Trump wins then the Dems only have themselves to blame for putting up Clinton with all her baggage.

If everyone voted for Johnson or Stein who claim to hate both candidates, one or both of them would have a strong showing. But no, we have people who complain about a two party system but do nothing to change it. Maybe that's one of the big issues this country faces, nobody puts their money where their mouth is.

Either way, stop telling people how to vote. Stop saying people are wasting their vote on a third party candidate. If all Clinton supporters were as TOXIC as you, she would get CRUSHED. You're a terrible spokesperson for her.

Johnson is a libertarian and stein is a socialist. Just because you don't like Trump or Hillary, you shouldn't vote for extremists. Their ideas are completely different. I rather have Trump than Johnson or Stein.

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by pgisback

There's smart crazy people out there. But one should question why 98-99% of the population thinks differently. If you think you're that special, more power to you.

I'm still baffled at why you think this is a legitimate argument in support of your position. "Eh, he doesn't think like us. Better go ahead and say he's crazy..."

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by pgisback

I was just joking. But if you're taking this, this seriously, I'll back off. Sorry bud.

Whatever you say Donald. Just like you were "joking" about asking the Russians for a little cyber help

[chezball]

Originally Posted by pgisback

Oh there's negatives about a President? Who would have thought. Lol. And NAFTA was Bush's idea and a conservative plan. Republicans love cheap foreign labor. Just look at your comrade Trump.

Negatives that destroyed the country and we still haven't recovered. Lowest home ownership rate since 1969, but it's all rainbows and unicorns.

[ssbledsoe]

By the way, I'd still like to know PG's thoughts on Travelgate