eBay Authenticity Guarantee limit now $500

[chris_ac]

I've been on the buyer end of an authenticity fail recently. They showed me the pics and on face value it looks like they caught something I would agree is weird. The seller said the card was pulled in a group break and everything should be kosher but the bottom corner did look "altered" which I cannot honestly understand. Authenticators used the term "inked" like the corner was filled with color in their opinion. Without seeing in person is a tricky thing but the pics raised questions. Refunds are magically fast on failed authenticities.

It will always have pot holes but the service has been decent in places. It's all about your tolerance buying/selling and be prepared for the monetary risk imho.

[RW3FAN]

Once the authenticator gets it, how long before it’s sent to you?

[zworykin]

Originally Posted by RW3FAN

Once the authenticator gets it, how long before it’s sent to you?

A day or two at the most before they ship it out, in my experience so far, assuming it passes.

[NYBBFAN]

Originally Posted by RW3FAN

Once the authenticator gets it, how long before it’s sent to you?

I had a 1-day turnaround at the authenticator.

[RW3FAN]

Originally Posted by zworykin

A day or two at the most before they ship it out, in my experience so far, assuming it passes.

Thanks.
It’s a Julio Rodriguez update RC so should be fine.

[sickmantz]

I purchased a card for $180 on 6/18. It got to the authenticator on 6/25. I got a message from ebay on 6/28 saying the card was sent to the authenticator by mistake - it wasn't eligible. I received it 6/30 and it had been repackaged by the authenticator.

eBay blamed the seller's listing, but the seller never received any communication from ebay about his mistake.

[towerymt]

Originally Posted by towerymt

Now I'm waiting on a graded card, first one I've bought to go through the loop.

June 23rd, agreed on an offer, paid immediately.
June 23rd, tracking number provided
June 23rd, PRE-SHIPMENT INFO SENT USPS AWAITS ITEM

...although this time, I see a tracking number which I assume is taking it to PSA. On the raw card purchase, I only saw the tracking number when it was coming from CSG to me.

This one's not even mailed yet, so this might be a bad example.

The ebay pizza tracker has:

• Tracking provided
• In transit to authenticator
• Out for delivery
• Estimated delivery Wed, Jul 13

So estimates 3 weeks total from day of purchase to card in hand of buyer.

6/23 - tracking number provided
6/28 - USPS in possession of item (seller finally shipped it)
6/30 - arrived Santa Ana, arrival at unit, out for delivery to hub, arrived at hub 1:05pm, arrived at hub 1:14pm -- but nothing shown on ebay tracking says delivered to authenticator.

USPS site shows this:
Delivered, Front Desk/Reception/Mail Room

Your item was delivered to the front desk, reception area, or mail room at 1:05 pm on June 30, 2022 in SANTA ANA, CA 92705.

I was curious to try this and see if PSA tracks all incoming mail, or if this is just for submissions: https://www.psacard.com/myaccount/packagefinder

"Your package has not been delivered yet. Please contact your package courier for more information" <-- as I expected

Still on track for the initial July 13 delivery to me, even with the delay from the seller and the holiday.

[towerymt]

Originally Posted by towerymt

6/23 - tracking number provided
6/28 - USPS in possession of item (seller finally shipped it)
6/30 - arrived Santa Ana, arrival at unit, out for delivery to hub, arrived at hub 1:05pm, arrived at hub 1:14pm -- but nothing shown on ebay tracking says delivered to authenticator.

USPS site shows this:
Delivered, Front Desk/Reception/Mail Room

Your item was delivered to the front desk, reception area, or mail room at 1:05 pm on June 30, 2022 in SANTA ANA, CA 92705.

I was curious to try this and see if PSA tracks all incoming mail, or if this is just for submissions: https://www.psacard.com/myaccount/packagefinder

"Your package has not been delivered yet. Please contact your package courier for more information" <-- as I expected

Still on track for the initial July 13 delivery to me, even with the delay from the seller and the holiday.

One day delay, but it's authenticated and shipping out today. Ebay updated the tracking number to the new one, but still shows the progress/history of the initial one.

6/23 - tracking number provided
6/28 - USPS in possession of item (seller finally shipped it)
6/30 - arrived Santa Ana, arrival at unit, out for delivery to hub, arrived at hub 1:05pm, arrived at hub 1:14pm -- but nothing shown on ebay tracking says delivered to authenticator.
7/5 - authenticated, new tracking number generated

[oddstuff]

Paid for a graded card on Monday, 6/27.
Seller shipped out Tuesday 6/28, out of Oregon.
Card arrived to Santa Ana "hub" Thursday 1:14pm, 6/30.
Item marked authenticated Friday, 1:35pm, 7/1.
Item shipped out by PSA via USPS Priority Mail by Friday evening, 7/1.
Arrived at my local postal sorting hub (northern California), Saturday evening, 7/2.
Item received today, Tuesday, 7/5.

[towerymt]

Originally Posted by towerymt

One day delay, but it's authenticated and shipping out today. Ebay updated the tracking number to the new one, but still shows the progress/history of the initial one.

6/23 - tracking number provided
6/28 - USPS in possession of item (seller finally shipped it)
6/30 - arrived Santa Ana, arrival at unit, out for delivery to hub, arrived at hub 1:05pm, arrived at hub 1:14pm -- but nothing shown on ebay tracking says delivered to authenticator.
7/5 - authenticated, new tracking number generated

7/7 - Delivered.


Trust no one. Not a good security sticker. No damage to the sticker when peeled. All it took was a letter opener under the flap to pry up and lift the flap & sticker.

[oddstuff]

Originally Posted by towerymt

7/7 - Delivered.


Trust no one. Not a good security sticker. No damage to the sticker when peeled. All it took was a letter opener under the flap to pry up and lift the flap & sticker.

Interesting...that brings to mind another question...has anyone try to resell a graded and eBay authenticated card? Will eBay require another round of authentication if the sticker is intact?

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by oddstuff

Will eBay require another round of authentication if the sticker is intact?

Yes, unless it's sold through their vault.

[zworykin]

Originally Posted by towerymt

Trust no one. Not a good security sticker. No damage to the sticker when peeled. All it took was a letter opener under the flap to pry up and lift the flap & sticker.

Yep, this has been my experience too, about half the time. The other half worked as expected - but then, if they don't all work, none of them work.

[JRX]

I got my first ebay authenticated card and all I could think of was how incredibly wasteful this is going to be at scale. I have zero interest in the ebay holder so that goes in the trash and it also vastly increases the mailing weight of each card. Sure on one card no big deal, but at scale this is just a complete waste of materials.

[spuds1961]

I thought since autographs by the card companies were already certified that they wouldn’t need the guarantee but a few of my older listings that came up for renewal now say they need to go through authenticity guarantee what gives.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

I thought since autographs by the card companies were already certified that they wouldn’t need the guarantee but a few of my older listings that came up for renewal now say they need to go through authenticity guarantee what gives.

They changed the program. Either live with it, don’t buy the cards, or get a PO Box. There’s no way around it.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

They changed the program. Either live with it, don’t buy the cards, or get a PO Box. There’s no way around it.

I don’t hate the program it just seems that it changes daily, when I list cards on eBay I am sure to price them accordingly so they can bypass the authenticity guarantee but when they keep changing it gets harder to do.

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

I thought since autographs by the card companies were already certified that they wouldn’t need the guarantee but a few of my older listings that came up for renewal now say they need to go through authenticity guarantee what gives.

This was never meant to be a real certification. For one, printing ‘Topps Certified Autograph’ on cards before they’re signed only shows how useless it really is.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

This was never meant to be a real certification. For one, printing ‘Topps Certified Autograph’ on cards before they’re signed only shows how useless it really is.

Ah I get it so the company that produces the cards and acquires the autographs is not trustworthy but a third party grader is.

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

Ah I get it so the company that produces the cards and acquires the autographs is not trustworthy but a third party grader is.

No, I really don’t think you do get it so I’ll put it differently - Topps “certifies” autographs that don’t exist yet.

I don’t really trust third party grading either. Or at least not enough to pay extra for their services on the market.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

No, I really don’t think you do get it so I’ll put it differently - Topps “certifies” autographs that don’t exist yet.

I don’t really trust third party grading either. Or at least enough to pay extra for their services on the market.

Topps prints the certification language before the auto. It doesn't mean they certify the auto before it's signed. No different than a company like Tri-Star printing up a bunch of COAs for a product, then going to get the product signed, then putting the COA with the item in packaging. The "certification" of the company is the intangible guarantee of the company to the authenticity of the auto. The "certificate" (the actual text on the card) is just a written acknowledgement of the certification/guarantee.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Topps prints the certification language before the auto. It doesn't mean they certify the auto before it's signed. No different than a company like Tri-Star printing up a bunch of COAs for a product, then going to get the product signed, then putting the COA with the item in packaging. The "certification" of the company is the intangible guarantee of the company to the authenticity of the auto. The "certificate" (the actual text on the card) is just a written acknowledgement of the certification/guarantee.

Thank you saved me a lot of typing.

[Ferg1945]

eBay just wasting time and supplies... free money for authenticators.

I bought a couple Sapphire Star Wars cards on the first and second day of boxes getting in the hands of sellers. eBay still required cards to go to Florida to be authenticated

Why?

[oddstuff]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

eBay just wasting time and supplies... free money for authenticators.

I bought a couple Sapphire Star Wars cards on the first and second day of boxes getting in the hands of sellers. eBay still required cards to go to Florida to be authenticated

Why?

Wait until they start charging buyers the fee to "authenticate"...then people may start falling for their master plan...to get everyone to "vault" their cards with them.

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Topps prints the certification language before the auto. It doesn't mean they certify the auto before it's signed. No different than a company like Tri-Star printing up a bunch of COAs for a product, then going to get the product signed, then putting the COA with the item in packaging. The "certification" of the company is the intangible guarantee of the company to the authenticity of the auto. The "certificate" (the actual text on the card) is just a written acknowledgement of the certification/guarantee.

This clearly isn’t saying anything about whether an autograph is authentic or whether pre-certifying autos is a good practice.