Westbrook in straight beast mode again...

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Pretty good when they're averaging 31/10.5/11

I think Derrick Rose was the lowest @ 44.5% back in 2010-'11 (at least in recent history), is 42% doable?

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I think Derrick Rose was the lowest @ 44.5% back in 2010-'11 (at least in recent history), is 42% doable?

If they make the playoffs and he averages a triple double, I'd assume so.

Unless of course, some other player goes on a monster tear and does something historic.

[Chain]

Originally Posted by exitmusicblue

Pretty bad when they make 1 in 3 shots. Makes Steve Nash look like a sharpshooter.

Why the dig on Steve Nash? He's a 4-time member of the 50-40-90 club; by far the most seasons with 50-40-90.

[exitmusicblue]

Originally Posted by Chain

Why the dig on Steve Nash? He's a 4-time member of the 50-40-90 club; by far the most seasons with 50-40-90.

Wasn't a straight dig on Nash, who did everything without 2352 attempts/game like Russ. Russ literally makes Nash look like a sharpshooter in comparison.

Now, does OKC have better options for high volume? No, not at all. But doesn't change the fact it'd be nice if Russ could shoot a lot better.

[drobfan8]

It really is crazy that he keeps pumping these stats out, especially when they get the win.

He would have to get OKC to top 4 I think to get the MVP, when you look at LeBron's stats right now he's so much more efficient and could be doing what Westbrook is if he wanted.

[401cards]

Originally Posted by exitmusicblue

Wasn't a straight dig on Nash, who did everything without 2352 attempts/game like Russ. Russ literally makes Nash look like a sharpshooter in comparison.

Now, does OKC have better options for high volume? No, not at all. But doesn't change the fact it'd be nice if Russ could shoot a lot better.

Nash was a sharpshooter. He's still probably a top-25 shooter on the planet right now.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by 401cards

Nash was a sharpshooter. He's still probably a top-25 shooter on the planet right now.

The guy shot 49% for his career, 43% from 3.

In his prime he was a 53% shooter.

[exitmusicblue]

Originally Posted by 401cards

Nash was a sharpshooter. He's still probably a top-25 shooter on the planet right now.

He was more than just a sharpshooter and hence I would rather define him as a former MVP. Re-read -- he did everything.

[bigcwd2000]

I think Westbrook has a shot at averaging a triple double this season and that in and of itself is impressive.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by exitmusicblue

Wasn't a straight dig on Nash, who did everything without 2352 attempts/game like Russ. Russ literally makes Nash look like a sharpshooter in comparison.

Now, does OKC have better options for high volume? No, not at all. But doesn't change the fact it'd be nice if Russ could shoot a lot better.

He kinda was a sharpshooter and Russ never has been and never will be so by comparison your example is pointless

[tke1600]

I personally like RW's overall game style/stats better than the love Curry got for hitting open 3's that won him his MVP's.

[cardbooker]

Originally Posted by tke1600

I personally like RW's overall game style/stats better than the love Curry got for hitting open 3's that won him his MVP's.

You must be kidding. The only open 3's are the ones he drains from half court or the ones where he jukes someone out of their boots. Give respect where it's due, RWB is having an MVP caliber year THIS year, but Curry was unstoppable the last 2 years.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6ap2CA8Z58M

[tke1600]

Originally Posted by cardbooker

You must be kidding. The only open 3's are the ones he drains from half court or the ones where he jukes someone out of their boots. Give respect where it's due, RWB is having an MVP caliber year THIS year, but Curry was unstoppable the last 2 years.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6ap2CA8Z58M

Of course Curry had some very impressive shots and scores, but overall the screen game and ball movement for GS is what got him and Klay very open 3's.

[cardbooker]

Originally Posted by tke1600

Of course Curry had some very impressive shots and scores, but overall the screen game and ball movement for GS is what got him and Klay very open 3's.

That YouTube video is a sample size of almost 100 threes. I didn't see very many open looks. Most had a hand in his face. It wasn't just catch and shoot either, he was creating space himself off the dribble.

[Ottomatic]

Originally Posted by tke1600

Of course Curry had some very impressive shots and scores, but overall the screen game and ball movement for GS is what got him and Klay very open 3's.

Ah yes, the Curry is only good because of his team argument. For whatever reason people don't want to give this guy credit. He's amazing.

[tke1600]

Originally Posted by cardbooker

That YouTube video is a sample size of almost 100 threes. I didn't see very many open looks. Most had a hand in his face. It wasn't just catch and shoot either, he was creating space himself off the dribble.

You don't know have to agree with me but stats and PER don't lie. Curry is having a similar season stats-wise to his MVP win in 2014 and his PER this year is just over 26. RW is at 30 PER averaging a triple double. So if Curry deserved the MVP in 2014 than RW could be on his way to deserving it too.

I personally like intensity that RW shows which leads to the triple doubles more than Curry being the best shooter the last 2 years, which was greatly helped by having the best team and teammates all year.

[Ottomatic]

Originally Posted by tke1600

You don't know have to agree with me but stats and PER don't lie. Curry is having a similar season stats-wise to his MVP win in 2014 and his PER this year is just over 26. RW is at 30 PER averaging a triple double. So if Curry deserved the MVP in 2014 than RW could be on his way to deserving it too.

I personally like intensity that RW shows which leads to the triple doubles more than Curry being the best shooter the last 2 years, which was greatly helped by having the best team and teammates all year.

PER lies seeing as it's a awful stat. It rewards you the more you shoot even if at a bad clip.

I think Westbrook is fantastic, and a fine MVP candidate, simply pointing out that per is awful. Also per game averages are a mediocre way of evaluating player especialy since a lot of people citing them seem to ignore defense, true shooting percentage and turnovers.

[cardbooker]

Originally Posted by tke1600

You don't know have to agree with me but stats and PER don't lie. Curry is having a similar season stats-wise to his MVP win in 2014 and his PER this year is just over 26. RW is at 30 PER averaging a triple double. So if Curry deserved the MVP in 2014 than RW could be on his way to deserving it too.

I personally like intensity that RW shows which leads to the triple doubles more than Curry being the best shooter the last 2 years, which was greatly helped by having the best team and teammates all year.

Sure that's fine. I like RWB's intensity too. And I like triple doubles. Just pointing out that your statement about Curry only shooting open 3's is greatly exaggerated.

All I'm saying is that RWB and Curry are both great players. No need to downplay Curry's game to boost the other. Especially when there's video evidence proving otherwise.

[tke1600]

Originally Posted by cardbooker

Sure that's fine. I like RWB's intensity too. And I like triple doubles. Just pointing out that your statement about Curry only shooting open 3's is greatly exaggerated.

All I'm saying is that RWB and Curry are both great players. No need to downplay Curry's game to boost the other. Especially when there's video evidence proving otherwise.

If it helps, My top 5 players overall right now are:

1. Lebron
2. Curry
3. Durant
4. Westbrook
5. AD


BUT my MVP leaders for this year are:

1. RW
2. AD
3. Lebron
4. DeRozan
5. Durant

[exitmusicblue]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

He kinda was a sharpshooter and Russ never has been and never will be so by comparison your example is pointless

The irony...

[21Pittsburgh58]

Great article!

Even on an off night, Russell Westbrook carries the Thunder - Oklahoma City Thunder Blog- ESPN

[deemsterz33]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

It really is crazy that he keeps pumping these stats out, especially when they get the win.

He would have to get OKC to top 4 I think to get the MVP, when you look at LeBron's stats right now he's so much more efficient and could be doing what Westbrook is if he wanted.

Gotta disagree with the 2nd part. LeBron doesn't have the legs any more to play with the intensity night in and night out that Westbrook demonstrates. Fully agree that his efficiency is pretty flawless though.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by deemsterz33

Gotta disagree with the 2nd part. LeBron doesn't have the legs any more to play with the intensity night in and night out that Westbrook demonstrates. Fully agree that his efficiency is pretty flawless though.

Doesn't? Or chooses not to?

[deemsterz33]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Doesn't? Or chooses not to?

Doesn't. It's not a knock on his abilities at all, just being real about what his limits are as a player with 13+ full seasons on his body.

LeBron was in a similar situation for his first stint in Cleveland. If the logic was true, we would have certainly seen night by night triple-doubles from him during that era at least.

[realreodeal]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Doesn't? Or chooses not to?

Doesn't...He has a lot of mileage on those legs and knees. At this stage of his career he is not able to do what Russ is doing. It's no spite towards LeBron because his efficiency is amazing but he can't go out and average a triple double for a month nor has he ever.