Patrick Mahomes Prices - Page 145

Giannis34fan · 10-13-2019, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jw8

This is very reminiscent of Giannis earlier this year. Most people were saying an MVP and championship were already factored into his prices...well here we are a week before the season and 2013 Prizm silver prices are exactly where they were after the Buck's got knocked out of the playoffs.

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I can attest to this as I collect Giannis. Those Prizm silver have not dipped at all this year!!

Hdpooh34 · 10-13-2019, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

I agree with you in that everyone is entitled to their opinion and we can all be civil without resorting to personal attacks. The prices took a small dip after they lost to Patriots but the prices have gone up more than 200% since then. You are not going to see those prices from Feb anymore unless he has a career ending injury. The prices went up too much and too fast in the past few months and are due for a small correction but that will be another buying opportunity imo similar to the buying opportunity during the dip after the loss to Patriots.

Excellent post on all counts. This man knows what he’s talking about.

Unfortunately for Mahomes though, I think his price trajectory relies too heavily on the success of the Chiefs. And this year I don’t see them winning it. Unless they make some drastic changes. Today Mahomes played fine but the defense was atrocious. If Chiefs keep losing, Mahomes keeps dipping even if he plays well like he did today.

Bo Hunter · 10-13-2019, 05:15 PM

Of course future super bowl wins are baked into current Mahomes prices, regardless of whether those buying him realize it or not. If he never wins a super bowl, what do you think will happen to his prices?

dave2424 · 10-13-2019, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hdpooh34

Again, this is a personal attack. Just stick to the topic and stay away from making it personal. I think Mahomes prices right now are under the assumption Chiefs win the Super Bowl. Again that is my opinion as to why they are so high. If they don’t show that they are capable and start losing as they have been, prices will go down to reflect this decreased chance to winning the Super Bowl. People don’t pay 25k for a rookie card of a guy without titles unless it’s Mike Trout. Just my two cents. You gotta win titles to back up such a large price tag.

Because trout has won titles?

Just tell us who the super bowl win card pricer person is and it can be all over. It’s not personal I promise, just funny that someone cannot have high card prices because they threw for 50 touchdowns and 5000 yards and mvp and is doing the same thing again.

Plus this is his second year, it’s not like he has choked many times trying to get to the big game. He was one off side call from going last year, and he hasn’t shown anything to say he could not be right back in that game this year.

Not personal, just give us the name of the super bowl card price fixer

Onepocketj · 10-13-2019, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo Hunter

Of course future super bowl wins are baked into current Mahomes prices, regardless of whether those buying him realize it or not. If he never wins a super bowl, what do you think will happen to his prices?

Good to know.

Welcome back!

dave2424 · 10-13-2019, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo Hunter

Of course future super bowl wins are baked into current Mahomes prices, regardless of whether those buying him realize it or not. If he never wins a super bowl, what do you think will happen to his prices?

What would mike trout say. Generational talent with no titles.

SleeperCards · 10-13-2019, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hdpooh34

There’s no need to attack me. If you don’t think Mahomes dipped at all after they lost to the Patriots, that’s fine. I saw that they did. You’re entitled to your opinion. No need to attack me personally.

I also think Chiefs don’t have what it takes to win the Super Bowl this year so I think prices will dip again. I’m entitled to my opinion

No need to attack anyone personally.

You're entitled to your opinion, but you're saying that the prices dipped when you can always point to a few cards selling under the previous sales at any time, when the truth was they stayed about the same overall and then rose. We can argue about the semantics of "dip" and what you consider a dip and what I consider a dip, but I feel your post was disingenuous. It's not a personal attack, it's pointing out that you're wrong.

armoursave · 10-13-2019, 05:22 PM

Hate that my Mahomes collection depends so much on an absolutely atrocious defense. Mahomes is terrific but this team is nowhere close to SB caliber. I’d say Wildcard bounce is their ceiling at this point.

Hdpooh34 · 10-13-2019, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dave2424

Because trout has won titles?

Just tell us who the super bowl win card pricer person is and it can be all over. It’s not personal I promise, just funny that someone cannot have high card prices because they threw for 50 touchdowns and 5000 yards and mvp and is doing the same thing again.

Plus this is his second year, it’s not like he has choked many times trying to get to the big game. He was one off side call from going last year, and he hasn’t shown anything to say he could not be right back in that game this year.

Not personal, just give us the name of the super bowl card price fixer

I’m not going to answer you because you’re making it personal again.

I just said Trout was the exception. He has no titles but he’s been the best player in baseball for a long time. Mahomes has only played one full year. Big difference.

Bowtoxin · 10-13-2019, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by spacewrangler

3 color NT RPA BGS 9 silver /25 was just listed starting at 20k/BIN 30k should give a good picture of the market

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Patrick-Mah...cAAOSwt4VdoP1s

Does the card number on the back of this card (No. RMS-PM) match the front (RC)? Shouldn't the back show No. 161? The grade label shows #161.

Hdpooh34 · 10-13-2019, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

You're entitled to your opinion, but you're saying that the prices dipped when you can always point to a few cards selling under the previous sales at any time, when the truth was they stayed about the same overall and then rose. We can argue about the semantics of "dip" and what you consider a dip and what I consider a dip, but I feel your post was disingenuous. It's not a personal attack, it's pointing out that you're wrong.

It was definitely a personal attack. No need to say I “don’t know what the hell on talking about”. There was a slight dip after they lost to the Patriots. Pcptrade just acknowledged it and he’s been following and buying Mahomes cards longer than most of us. Pointing out that I’m wrong doesn’t make it true.

dave2424 · 10-13-2019, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

You're entitled to your opinion, but you're saying that the prices dipped when you can always point to a few cards selling under the previous sales at any time, when the truth was they stayed about the same overall and then rose. We can argue about the semantics of "dip" and what you consider a dip and what I consider a dip, but I feel your post was disingenuous. It's not a personal attack, it's pointing out that you're wrong.

I would agree, I don't think that we are being personal. It is more just having a difference of opinion and in today's world that is looked at as a personal attack. I will personally apologize if I have hurt any feelings today. It must be hard to come into a PATRICK MAHOMES forum and wonder why people would get edgy when they put out an opinion that not all share.

ThoseBackPages · 10-13-2019, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hdpooh34

It was definitely a personal attack. No need to say I “don’t know what the hell on talking about”. There was a slight dip after they lost to the Patriots. Pcptrade just acknowledged it and he’s been following and buying Mahomes cards longer than most of us. Pointing out that I’m wrong doesn’t make it true.

Onepocketj · 10-13-2019, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

You're entitled to your opinion, but you're saying that the prices dipped when you can always point to a few cards selling under the previous sales at any time, when the truth was they stayed about the same overall and then rose. We can argue about the semantics of "dip" and what you consider a dip and what I consider a dip, but I feel your post was disingenuous. It's not a personal attack, it's pointing out that you're wrong.

Really. Don't waste your time with him.

SirTommyWinAlot · 10-13-2019, 05:30 PM

SirTommy always values differing opinions. Always.

Bo Hunter · 10-13-2019, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dave2424

Because trout has won titles?

Just tell us who the super bowl win card pricer person is and it can be all over. It’s not personal I promise, just funny that someone cannot have high card prices because they threw for 50 touchdowns and 5000 yards and mvp and is doing the same thing again.

Plus this is his second year, it’s not like he has choked many times trying to get to the big game. He was one off side call from going last year, and he hasn’t shown anything to say he could not be right back in that game this year.

Not personal, just give us the name of the super bowl card price fixer

You can't compare a QB's expectations to baseball. Any given baseball player has very little impact on his team's chances of winning the pennant. It's much better to compare to basketball than baseball.

pcptrade · 10-13-2019, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hdpooh34

It was definitely a personal attack. No need to say I “don’t know what the hell on talking about”. There was a slight dip after they lost to the Patriots. Pcptrade just acknowledged it and he’s been following and buying Mahomes cards longer than most of us. Pointing out that I’m wrong doesn’t make it true.

Disclosure: I am no expert in sports cards and their price trends. I have been in this sports cards hobby only for 1.5 years and I started buying Mahomes cards only in Jan-Feb 2019. However, I am flattered by your comment

Hdpooh34 · 10-13-2019, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dave2424

I would agree, I don't think that we are being personal. It is more just having a difference of opinion and in today's world that is looked at as a personal attack. I will personally apologize if I have hurt any feelings today. It must be hard to come into a PATRICK MAHOMES forum and wonder why people would get edgy when they put out an opinion that not all share.

I stated I thought Mahomes prices were high currently because they have Super Bowl expectations built into them. Asking me twice for the phone number and email of the price fixer who corrupted the prices into place is making it personal. Just say you don’t agree with me, there’s a tactful way to telling someone you disagree without taking it to a personal level

SleeperCards · 10-13-2019, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hdpooh34

It was definitely a personal attack. No need to say I “don’t know what the hell on talking about”. There was a slight dip after they lost to the Patriots. Pcptrade just acknowledged it and he’s been following and buying Mahomes cards longer than most of us. Pointing out that I’m wrong doesn’t make it true.

If you look at the prices before the Pats game and then the prices they fetched from February on you'll see that they were going up. I've been doing this longer than Pcp, although that's irrelevant, maybe he remembers things differently, but you can look at something like the Contenders Auto to see the Playoff loss didn't hurt him in the way you're saying it did.

deemsterz33 · 10-13-2019, 05:39 PM

It's like a shooting gallery in here! Lol

dave2424 · 10-13-2019, 05:40 PM

I didn't that was hdpooh34 in post 3598 referring to trout,

spacewrangler · 10-13-2019, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowtoxin

Does the card number on the back of this card (No. RMS-PM) match the front (RC)? Shouldn't the back show No. 161? The grade label shows #161.

Good question...

jw8 · 10-13-2019, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Giannis34fan

I can attest to this as I collect Giannis. Those Prizm silver have not dipped at all this year!!

Actually not just the silver but all 2013 Prizm of his has been rock steady.

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deemsterz33 · 10-13-2019, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Giannis34fan

I can attest to this as I collect Giannis. Those Prizm silver have not dipped at all this year!!

Giannis stuff is down around 20% from his peak last year, not sure what prices you're looking at. Still, if you bought anytime before April last year you're doing fine!

For example, PSA 9 Prizm base was topping out at $300, PSA 10s at $600+.

dave2424 · 10-13-2019, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hdpooh34

I stated I thought Mahomes prices were high currently because they have Super Bowl expectations built into them. Asking me twice for the phone number and email of the price fixer who corrupted the prices into place is making it personal. Just say you don’t agree with me, there’s a tactful way to telling someone you disagree without taking it to a personal level

holy crap what is the world coming to. I did not personally attack you. We have different opinions, I am sure anyone reading this saw sarcasm when asking for phone numbers and email address of some hypothetical person who could really have had the ability to make Mahomes cards so high that they would include his next 10 Super Bowl wins. I totally apoligize if you thought I was being personal, and I will not try to ruffle your feathers anymore in a way that you might take as a personal attack on you. You still can't even say maybe because he went 50/5000 and was mvp and is on pace for the same his prices are high.

I am super sorry if I hurt your feelings in this thread where people express opinions I can assure you it won't happen again.

10-13-2019, 05:15 PM	#3603
Bo Hunter Banned Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: California Posts: 385	Of course future super bowl wins are baked into current Mahomes prices, regardless of whether those buying him realize it or not. If he never wins a super bowl, what do you think will happen to his prices?

10-13-2019, 05:22 PM	#3608
armoursave Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 709	Hate that my Mahomes collection depends so much on an absolutely atrocious defense. Mahomes is terrific but this team is nowhere close to SB caliber. I’d say Wildcard bounce is their ceiling at this point.

10-13-2019, 05:30 PM	#3615
SirTommyWinAlot Banned Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Gillette Stadium/Foxboro Posts: 6,545	SirTommy always values differing opinions. Always.

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deemsterz33 Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 5,924 phunkified	It's like a shooting gallery in here! Lol

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dave2424 Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: In the Heartland Posts: 911 allbig8502	I didn't that was hdpooh34 in post 3598 referring to trout,