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Old 10-13-2019, 04:24 PM   #3576
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I don’t understand the surprise from people shocked prices are going to dip

The hobby has become a stock market in terms of volatility linked directly to player and team performance

Mahomes threw for 4 TDs and no INT the first few weeks and Chiefs won - prices skyrocketed

Mahomes throws 0 TDs for a week and an INT this week and Chiefs lose both games - prices go down

Why are people still acting confused by this?
Where is this surprise and confusion? Please quote posts.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:27 PM   #3577
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The pumpers have become the haters. If he was playing like mayfield then there would be some time for concern. He is still putting up lots of yards and td’s. Do they need to address the defense yes, but that can be done. Six games in they will be fine, only problem now is they probably have to go thru foxboro to get to the super bowl
Still haven't seen anything to show me he's not the most skilled QB in the league and still the sort of QB who could can (with a healthy line) throw 5 TDs and 500 yards basically any given game. The prices that determine the market (NT RPAs, Prizm 10s and graded Contenders) haven't moved off their peaks and until people start panic selling those I'm still holding tight
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:28 PM   #3578
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Where is this surprise and confusion? Please quote posts.
Don't acknowledge him. I was already told to ignore him. Last week his stance was that the prices had to come down because they were too high. Now it's because of the losses. Not worth the effort.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:32 PM   #3579
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I'm ready for people to panic sell. Prices got too out of control before I could pick up more. The people panicking should have never jumped in the water to begin with.
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The pumpers have become the haters. If he was playing like mayfield then there would be some time for concern. He is still putting up lots of yards and td’s. Do they need to address the defense yes, but that can be done. Six games in they will be fine, only problem now is they probably have to go thru foxboro to get to the super bowl
This is his second year and he is doing great. I will be buying more if the prices dip. Trout card prices dropped in 2012 and those who bought during the dip and held made a wise decision. Trout's 2009 Bowman Chrome Draft Prospect Gold Refractor Auto BGS 9.5 sold for $850 in 2012 and now they sell for close to $100K. Mahomes has a long way to go and I understand it is risky but I like the reward potential.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:35 PM   #3580
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Lol. Let the fire sales begin. Two Prizms just listed at $199 obo. Gonna be a fun four days.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:36 PM   #3581
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3 color NT RPA BGS 9 silver /25 was just listed starting at 20k/BIN 30k should give a good picture of the market

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Patrick-Mah...cAAOSwt4VdoP1s
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:44 PM   #3582
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Where is this surprise and confusion? Please quote posts.
I don't need to do anything you ask me to.

Anyway back to the topic, if you think Mahomes wins the Super Bow this year, re-invest in the dip that's coming.

If you think the Chiefs won't win the Super Bowl this year, wait it out because it will dip further if they don't win the title. That's what happened last year after they lost to the Patriots in the AFC title game. Mahomes prices already have this year's Super Bowl win built into them.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:48 PM   #3583
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For certin I am calling in sick to work tomorrow with Mahomes Apologist Syndrome

2nd vacation day I have used in two weeks.....thanks Patrick
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:51 PM   #3584
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I don't need to do anything you ask me to.

Anyway back to the topic, if you think Mahomes wins the Super Bow this year, re-invest in the dip that's coming.

If you think the Chiefs won't win the Super Bowl this year, wait it out because it will dip further if they don't win the title. That's what happened last year after they lost to the Patriots in the AFC title game. Mahomes prices already have this year's Super Bowl win built into them.
Yes and no...

You are also not accounting for more new people interested in picking up Patrick Mahomes cards during this season. He was the MVP last year and hence more people outside of football collectors are interested in him...heck I collect mainly basketball and took a dab at buying some of his RCs...
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:51 PM   #3585
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It's time for the Chiefs to call the Jags again about Ramsey. They need to do something about that terrible defense.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:52 PM   #3586
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That's what happened last year after they lost to the Patriots in the AFC title game. Mahomes prices already have this year's Super Bowl win built into them.
Well, in case anyone needed proof that you don't know what the hell you're talking about, there it is. Mahomes prices shockingly held steady after the loss (I was anticipating a big dip and chance to buy) and then increased over the summer. If you're going to try to FUD up the thread, maybe stick to the facts.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:53 PM   #3587
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I haven’t even read the posts from today, but I know it’s not good. Maybe I shouldn’t have pulled the trigger on the red prizm this morning!
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:53 PM   #3588
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I haven’t even read the posts from today, but I know it’s not good. Maybe I shouldn’t have pulled the trigger on the red prizm this morning!
How much did you get it for?
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:54 PM   #3589
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I don't need to do anything you ask me to.

Anyway back to the topic


Ok poop man.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:54 PM   #3590
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I don't need to do anything you ask me to.

Anyway back to the topic, if you think Mahomes wins the Super Bow this year, re-invest in the dip that's coming.

If you think the Chiefs won't win the Super Bowl this year, wait it out because it will dip further if they don't win the title. That's what happened last year after they lost to the Patriots in the AFC title game. Mahomes prices already have this year's Super Bowl win built into them.
Could you please tell us who you spoke with that said super bowl prices are already included. You must know someone pretty high up to get that info. Mahomes prices are because he was mvp, threw for 50 td’s, 5000 yards and is on pace to do the same. Whoever told you the prices are already figured with a Super Bowl win is crazy. With a super bowl win people will wish they could get him at these prices still.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:55 PM   #3591
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Well, in case anyone needed proof that you don't know what the hell you're talking about, there it is. Mahomes prices shockingly held steady after the loss (I was anticipating a big dip and chance to buy) and then increased over the summer. If you're going to try to FUD up the thread, maybe stick to the facts.
There’s no need to attack me. If you don’t think Mahomes dipped at all after they lost to the Patriots, that’s fine. I saw that they did. You’re entitled to your opinion. No need to attack me personally.

I also think Chiefs don’t have what it takes to win the Super Bowl this year so I think prices will dip again. I’m entitled to my opinion

No need to attack anyone personally.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:59 PM   #3592
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Could you please tell us who you spoke with that said super bowl prices are already included. You must know someone pretty high up to get that info. Mahomes prices are because he was mvp, threw for 50 td’s, 5000 yards and is on pace to do the same. Whoever told you the prices are already figured with a Super Bowl win is crazy. With a super bowl win people will wish they could get him at these prices still.
If its 'priced in' that means if the Chiefs do win the SB prices will stay exactly where they are doubtful...
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:02 PM   #3593
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IMO they need a shutdown CB, 2 LB's, and a defensive lineman....I don't think there is a chance in hell Veach could pull off that many moves before the deadline, but without any changes to defensive personnel, we are at best a 1 or 2 and done playoff team...if that.
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:03 PM   #3594
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There’s no need to attack me. If you don’t think Mahomes dipped at all after they lost to the Patriots, that’s fine. I saw that they did. You’re entitled to your opinion. No need to attack me personally.

I also think Chiefs don’t have what it takes to win the Super Bowl this year so I think prices will dip again. I’m entitled to my opinion

No need to attack anyone personally.
Just fill us in on the person you know who has set Mahomes cards at a level to include a super bowl win. Maybe a phone number or a email would be ok. You have already said you don’t need to do anything but what if we said please and promise not to attack you?
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:04 PM   #3595
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In 2011, the Patriots had the 2nd to worst passing d and a middle of the pack rushing d YET they went to the super bowl. That team had no business being there.
In 2008 the Pats went 11-5 without Brady. In 2016 they were 3-1 without him. Not bad for a team with no D and a NCAA division 2 receiving core.
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:05 PM   #3596
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Could you please tell us who you spoke with that said super bowl prices are already included. You must know someone pretty high up to get that info. Mahomes prices are because he was mvp, threw for 50 td’s, 5000 yards and is on pace to do the same. Whoever told you the prices are already figured with a Super Bowl win is crazy. With a super bowl win people will wish they could get him at these prices still.
This is very reminiscent of Giannis earlier this year. Most people were saying an MVP and championship were already factored into his prices...well here we are a week before the season and 2013 Prizm silver prices are exactly where they were after the Buck's got knocked out of the playoffs.

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Old 10-13-2019, 05:06 PM   #3597
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If its 'priced in' that means if the Chiefs do win the SB prices will stay exactly where they are doubtful...
Not a chance, that’s like saying trouts card have a World Series priced in them. Ya ok good one.
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:06 PM   #3598
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Just fill us in on the person you know who has set Mahomes cards at a level to include a super bowl win. Maybe a phone number or a email would be ok. You have already said you don’t need to do anything but what if we said please and promise not to attack you?
Again, this is a personal attack. Just stick to the topic and stay away from making it personal. I think Mahomes prices right now are under the assumption Chiefs win the Super Bowl. Again that is my opinion as to why they are so high. If they don’t show that they are capable and start losing as they have been, prices will go down to reflect this decreased chance to winning the Super Bowl. People don’t pay 25k for a rookie card of a guy without titles unless it’s Mike Trout. Just my two cents. You gotta win titles to back up such a large price tag.
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:07 PM   #3599
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In 2008 the Pats went 11-5 without Brady. In 2016 they were 3-1 without him. Not bad for a team with no D and a NCAA division 2 receiving core.
And a coach that is a cheater
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:09 PM   #3600
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There’s no need to attack me. If you don’t think Mahomes dipped at all after they lost to the Patriots, that’s fine. I saw that they did. You’re entitled to your opinion. No need to attack me personally.

I also think Chiefs don’t have what it takes to win the Super Bowl this year so I think prices will dip again. I’m entitled to my opinion

No need to attack anyone personally.

I agree with you in that everyone is entitled to their opinion and we can all be civil without resorting to personal attacks. The prices took a small dip after they lost to Patriots but the prices have gone up more than 200% since then. You are not going to see those prices from Feb anymore unless he has a career ending injury. The prices went up too much and too fast in the past few months and are due for a small correction but that will be another buying opportunity imo similar to the buying opportunity during the dip after the loss to Patriots.
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