2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Some of these dudes have a riot fetish.
They can't get enough of it.

Don't worry, Clark, hockey's on in 3 hours, and it's in Edmonton, so the arena's sure to still be standing at gametime.
Watch that instead.

Hold on a moment, there's a massive protest going on in my front yard.
I need to see if any of the participants would like some fruit punch.
It's hot out there.

Be careful not to step in any people poop on your way out.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

Also, Trump lies so much that he undermines the public's faith in our government. What he lies about is both stupid yet dangerous.

He's already questioning the legitimacy of the upcoming election. That is dangerous. He has lied about the abilities and decisions of our public health sector during a #@#@#@#@ing pandemic while also touting unproven remedies. That is dangerous.

Those are just two recent examples. How can you not see how what he does is a danger to our country?

He’s been president for almost four years now. Where’s the danger? I can’t see it.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Clark

It's reality. Within three years decisions will be reached in two (and other) high profile criminal trials. George Floyd and Rayshard Brooks.

There is a snowballs chance in hell that BLM and Antifa will be happy with the outcome.

Where you at Jopeal? Is Biden going to smooth over political divisions? Are the courts going to satisfactorily address racial grievances?

[Clark]

Another Clark prediction. Portland is going to experience some major strife tonight. Mark my words.

[Bulls90s]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

It's funny.

Barack Obama had eight years as President. Eight years. Two of those years, he had a majority both in the House and in the Senate. Sharp guy, probably a very nice guy, commanded a stage like few I've seen and is gifted in public speaking like few I have seen.

And in eight years, he accomplished absolutely nothing. Nothing. In fact, his legacy is defined as the guy who got Donald Trump elected. His ineffectiveness to govern, and his inability to do anything is the primary reason why the country shifted towards a guy like Trump. No policy, no achievements, no ability to come anywhere close to the rhetoric of hope and change. Simply division and executive orders that were quickly undone by Trump.

Obama was a terrible terrible waste. But the man sure could say the right things.

He rescued the country from the Great Recession, cutting the unemployment rate from 10% to 4.7% over six years. He ended the war in Iraq. He saved the US auto industry. He dropped the veteran homeless rate by 50 percent. He accomplished a lot. Tsk,tsk,tsk.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by Clark

Where you at Jopeal? Is Biden going to smooth over political divisions? Are the courts going to satisfactorily address racial grievances?

Hopefully his administration will be able to help reform bipartisan ties in Congress.

Anecdotal instances of racial grievances are a microcosm of more widespread tensions that will be eased somewhat under Bidens administration, regardless of court rulings in the Floyd, Arbery, Brooks & Breonna Taylor cases.

#seriousresponse
#ImNotaBidenfanboy

[trixstar]

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

Hopefully his administration will be able to help reform bipartisan ties in Congress.

Anecdotal instances of racial grievances are a microcosm of more widespread tensions that will be eased somewhat under Bidens administration, regardless of court rulings in the Floyd, Arbery, Brooks & Breonna Taylor cases.

#seriousresponse
#ImNotaBidenfanboy

The bipartisan administration issues have some hope, we shall see. IMHO, the racial issues are too deep, have lacked attention for too long, and I don't see any leadership on the horizon that can repair them.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by Clark

The bipartisan administration issues have some hope, we shall see. IMHO, the racial issues are too deep, have lacked attention for too long, and I don't see any leadership on the horizon that can repair them.

Media needs to stop selectively reporting on police/civilian brutality. Reporting on ALL unarmed civilian killings by police will unify the public and get everyone on the same page in a push for police reform. We also need more cops and more healthy interactions with police and civilians in areas where police distrust is high. It’s a team effort thing.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

Media needs to stop selectively reporting on police/civilian brutality. Reporting on ALL unarmed civilian killings by police will unify the public and get everyone on the same page in a push for police reform. We also need more cops and more healthy interactions with police and civilians in areas where police distrust is high. It’s a team effort thing.

There is no doubt that there is opportunity to reform police. My first recommendation would be to look how performance is measured for officers.

Tickets or arrest quotas should be eliminated. Replaced with community involvement and conflict resolution.

There is opportunity there, but man, the challenge is huge.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

Media needs to stop selectively reporting on police/civilian brutality. Reporting on ALL unarmed civilian killings by police will unify the public and get everyone on the same page in a push for police reform. We also need more cops and more healthy interactions with police and civilians in areas where police distrust is high. It’s a team effort thing.

Things that will never happen for $1200.

[lionsfan20]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

Also, Trump lies so much that he undermines the public's faith in our government. What he lies about is both stupid yet dangerous.



He's already questioning the legitimacy of the upcoming election. That is dangerous. He has lied about the abilities and decisions of our public health sector during a #@#@#@#@ing pandemic while also touting unproven remedies. That is dangerous.



Those are just two recent examples. How can you not see how what he does is a danger to our country?

Rinse and repeat the same complaints from 2016. Everyone said the same thing last election. And the world didn't end.

The funny thing about the two parties is that if Biden wins our lives will all go on. My daily life and quality of life will not change one bit. If Trump wins the left will absolutely melt down and spend another 4 years crying and trying to impeach trump again. And another 4 years of the democratic parties lives will be wasted.

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[tpeichel34]

Netflix is garbage.

https://archive.is/cmpTx

Aside from the promotional artwork, the plot of the film itself is disturbing. Cuties, according to Netflix, is about an 11-year-old girl named Amy ‘who becomes fascinated with a twerking dance crew’ and ‘starts to explore her femininity’. The villains in the movie are Amy’s traditional and religious family, who are painted in the preview as oppressive, sexist bigots because they want to protect their young daughter’s innocence. This is a classic trope used by amoralists; they demonize anyone who wants to stop the trend of sexual exploitation at increasingly younger ages, brainwashing children into believing it is empowering, fun, and free to reveal yourself for the entertainment of others. Other descriptions claim the movie is a commentary on the hyper-sexualization of young girls, but that rings hollow. Does anyone really think the filmmakers who spent six months in the casting process viewing 650 young girls doing provocative dance moves are trying to fight over sexualization?
Netflix doesn’t really care about the girls in the film or others like them. If it did, it would have never agreed to stream Cuties in the first place. Remember, this is the same company that showed a graphic depiction of suicide in a show for teenagers, and aired another film that showed a young girl having her first orgasm. Conservatives are often mocked when they warn that our gratuitous sexual culture will come for your children. Some self-proclaimed ‘conservatives’ even downplay the existence of drag queen story hours. I cannot think of better evidence that our families and our children are at serious risk than the ‘entertainment’ being pushed by companies like Netflix.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by Clark

There is no doubt that there is opportunity to reform police. My first recommendation would be to look how performance is measured for officers.

Tickets or arrest quotas should be eliminated. Replaced with community involvement and conflict resolution.

There is opportunity there, but man, the challenge is huge.

Officers also need more stringent training programs and proper mental health resources. It’s not an easy job, but reform is a necessity.

[TheHeel]

I can’t wait for Bunker #@#@#@#@#@#@ to go off on a tangent and totally deviate from his teleprompter (probably because he can’t read well).

Zero discipline

[lionsfan20]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

I can’t wait for Bunker #@#@#@#@#@#@ to go off on a tangent and totally deviate from his teleprompter (probably because he can’t read well).

Zero discipline

At least Trump can talk without a prompter and without rehearsing for a month.

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[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by lionsfan20

At least Trump can talk without a prompter and without rehearsing for a month.

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He talks but doesn’t say anything except random words and nonsense.

[coltsnsox07]

Anyone remember the Dead Kennedy's singer Jello Biafra when he ran for mayor of San Francisco? He wanted policemen to be re-elected into their jobs by the people in the neighborhoods they patrolled.....

Oh, he also wanted businessmen to wear clown suits within city limits.
And
Erecting a statue of Dan White (who assassinated former Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk) and raising money for the city by having the parks department sell eggs, stones, and tomatoes with which to pelt it.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by Clark

Another Clark prediction. Portland is going to experience some major strife tonight. Mark my words.

Did something happen or is this just the normal “major strife” that’s been going on for what, 80 days now?

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by Clark

There is no doubt that there is opportunity to reform police. My first recommendation would be to look how performance is measured for officers.

Tickets or arrest quotas should be eliminated. Replaced with community involvement and conflict resolution.

There is opportunity there, but man, the challenge is huge.

Step one is accepting that nothing happens overnight. There has been massive progress made with all of these types of issues over the past however many years. Crime is way down. Police shootings are way down. Let’s acknowledge progress and continue to try for better.

I think community involvement is important. There’s a high level of distrust for the police in high crime areas. It’s a two way street, though. Cops aren’t just showing up to break up picnics in the park and shooting people for choosing mayo over mustard.

For those who have problems with cops, stop committing crime, stop harassing cops, stop shooting cops. Work with the police on crimes that affect your community instead of doing nothing. Often times there’s information that isn’t shared with the cops due to some sort of street code.

For cops, stop being physical when it isn’t needed. Call out the bad cops. F the brotherhood thing... your duty is to protect and serve the public, not your crooked fellow police officers just because they wear a badge too. Build trust with every civilian interaction.

As far as reform, qualified immunity shouldn’t be a thing. There are other ideas I can’t remember off the top of my head, but there are many reform suggestions that make sense.

There’s way more to say here, but I think that ultimately trust needs to be built on both sides, crime and bad police actions reduced, and police and community working together to choke out the crime in certain areas. Once these areas become safer, businesses will feel more confident investing in these areas. If I’m a business owner, why would I consider setting up shop in a city just to get my sh** looted? All of these issues build on each other.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

Did something happen or is this just the normal “major strife” that’s been going on for what, 80 days now?

Blazers lost Game 2.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

Officers also need more stringent training programs and proper mental health resources. It’s not an easy job, but reform is a necessity.

Agreed. I think there is likely an element of PTSD that police officers carry with them over the course of their careers.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by rman112

Blazers lost Game 2.

Burn it down.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

Step one is accepting that nothing happens overnight. There has been massive progress made with all of these types of issues over the past however many years. Crime is way down. Police shootings are way down. Let’s acknowledge progress and continue to try for better.

I think community involvement is important. There’s a high level of distrust for the police in high crime areas. It’s a two way street, though. Cops aren’t just showing up to break up picnics in the park and shooting people for choosing mayo over mustard.

For those who have problems with cops, stop committing crime, stop harassing cops, stop shooting cops. Work with the police on crimes that affect your community instead of doing nothing. Often times there’s information that isn’t shared with the cops due to some sort of street code.

For cops, stop being physical when it isn’t needed. Call out the bad cops. F the brotherhood thing... your duty is to protect and serve the public, not your crooked fellow police officers just because they wear a badge too. Build trust with every civilian interaction.

As far as reform, qualified immunity shouldn’t be a thing. There are other ideas I can’t remember off the top of my head, but there are many reform suggestions that make sense.

There’s way more to say here, but I think that ultimately trust needs to be built on both sides, crime and bad police actions reduced, and police and community working together to choke out the crime in certain areas. Once these areas become safer, businesses will feel more confident investing in these areas. If I’m a business owner, why would I consider setting up shop in a city just to get my sh** looted? All of these issues build on each other.

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

Agreed. I think there is likely an element of PTSD that police officers carry with them over the course of their careers.

+1 on both of these posts furthering an important dialogue.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by clark

another clark prediction. Portland is going to experience some major strife tonight. Mark my words.

Originally Posted by jeremynick

did something happen or is this just the normal “major strife” that’s been going on for what, 80 days now?

MaRK!!!

HiS!!!

WoRDS!!!