2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

The bar is as low as it has ever been for the dems.

Did Biden really trot out the Charlottesville fine people hoax AGAIN? They must think people are so stupid. We can READ!

[techtre2003]

The Department of State is issuing an EXTRA 100k green cards next year and 11,000 this year for work in tech jobs. Awesome! I mean we have full employment right now and no American wants those crappy tech jobs right? I don't know what role Trump has in this or if he has any say in it or not but I'd like for him to at least mention it and what his thoughts are. "American first" and letting this go on is B.S.

[pac213up]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Did Biden really trot out the Charlottesville fine people hoax AGAIN? They must think people are so stupid. We can READ!

People are stupid. Our choices for President are Donald Trump and Joe Biden.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by pac213up

People are stupid. Our choices for President are Donald Trump and Joe Biden.

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Did Biden really trot out the Charlottesville fine people hoax AGAIN? They must think people are so stupid. We can READ!

I have read the transcripts and watched / listened to the exchange.

What did Trump mean by saying "There are fine people on both sides?"

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by pac213up

People are stupid. Our choices for President are Donald Trump and Joe Biden.

Pretty stark choice. Biden is a Pro-China Neocon that favors taxes and regulation. He also encouraged illegal immigration and did very little to stop human trafficking and pedophile networks.

Then again, Trump does use Twitter to troll people.

[DegaBama]

NASCAR has had fans since June in the following states:
Florida, Alabama, New Hampshire, Tennessee, Texas

The only races where they didn't have fans, are in these states:
Pennsylvania, New York, Michigan, Kentucky, Kansas, Indianapolis, Virginia

The political game continues. The crazy thing is, the states that wouldn't allow it, are doing better because of their killing off of people in the beginning, as well as potentially reaching a level of herd immunity. Who knows why they wouldn't allow fans, besides waiting for a magical vaccine.

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

I have read the transcripts and watched / listened to the exchange.

What did Trump mean by saying "There are fine people on both sides?"

The people that were there to protest/counter protest the removal of the statue and had nothing to do with Antifa or white supremacists.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by discostu

Do you consider this news? Or worthy of discussion? Is this what passes for facts (or even a thoughtful opinion) these days?

Please forgive my curiosity, but a donkey with a snorkel jammed in its left ear could find basic fundraiser information regarding a couple guys with last names of "Clooney" and "Obama" who have raised well over $10 million for a guy named "Biden."

As you know, personal donations are capped, so I don't think that a few grand from the Obamas will make much of a difference.

If I were to glean anything from this article, it's that it's nothing more than the meandering words of a nincompoop.

But you do you, enjoy the words you enjoy.

It's just a ridiculous notion on its face.
If the idea is that Obama's support is tepid for Biden due to the amount (of course, all he could legally give) of his campaign contribution, why would Barack and Michelle be willing to make speeches like they just did on Joe's behalf on the largest stage from which they could have made them?

Both had no choice but to say things they never wanted to say about Trump just so they could shout things from the mountaintop about Biden.
Obama's on-board.
Clooney's on-board.
We're good.

Stu, you're a better man than I am for:
1. Clicking that link
2. Trying to help the person who posted it

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

I have read the transcripts and watched / listened to the exchange.

What did Trump mean by saying "There are fine people on both sides?"

The same thing when they people say you can’t call all BLM the protestors looters and rioters.

If you classify a large group of people by the worst among them, you are overgeneralizing.

Is this not simple and logical?

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by jdandns

It's just a ridiculous notion on its face.
If the idea is that Obama's support is tepid for Biden due to the amount (of course, all he could legally give) of his campaign contribution, why would Barack and Michelle be willing to make speeches like they just did on Joe's behalf on the largest stage from which they could have made them?

Both had no choice but to say things they never wanted to say about Trump just so they could shout things from the mountaintop about Biden.
Obama's on-board.
Clooney's on-board.
We're good.

Stu, you're a better man than I am for:
1. Clicking that link
2. Trying to help the person who posted it

Did you seriously just ask why the Obama's would be willing to make speeches for Biden at the Democratic Convention?
In the immortal words of Joe Biden, come on man!

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[techtre2003]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

I have read the transcripts and watched / listened to the exchange.

What did Trump mean by saying "There are fine people on both sides?"

If you truly read it you have your answer.

"You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

The same thing when they people say you can’t call all BLM the protestors looters and rioters.

If you classify a large group of people by the worst among them, you are overgeneralizing.

Is this not simple and logical?

President Trump even said specifically that he was not referring to the white supremacists.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Biden would not have been saying it would disappear in a couple months, and would have touted masks because everyone with a brain knows they work. That would have been different, and that would have made a difference.

So? It will disappear, we know that. And again, it goes back to the political comments of it. People take Trump's words too literal.

Masks aren't going to suddenly make the virus disappear. You and I know you aren't getting EVERYONE to wear one, and a lot of people have good reasons why they don't wear one.

What would have made a difference, was this not being a political game, the media coming out and explaining who is at risk, what needs to be done, etc.

At the high end, 2600 people under the age of 65, have succumbed to this virus with no other known issues. .5% of all deaths, during this time for people under the age of 65 are from COVID. Think about that, we have shut down our economy, working class, etc for a virus that has killed 2600 of those people. Anything above that, can be argued that they died with COVID, not of. Instead of our 50 Governors, thousands of city officials, and the federal government working on a plan to protect the ACTUAL people at risk. They played with our lives making it a political game.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

What does that even mean?

The day I have a bad day is the day I do not wake up.

Clark is one of those "Borat" type made-up characters.
It's a slow burn, but once you get it, it's very funny.
More wacky word equations, please, Clark!
I love it!

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Did Biden really trot out the Charlottesville fine people hoax AGAIN? They must think people are so stupid. We can READ!

Trump's finest:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-c...iolent-n945186

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Clark is one of those "Borat" type made-up characters.
It's a slow burn, but once you get it, it's very funny.
More wacky word equations, please, Clark!
I love it!



Trump's finest:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-c...iolent-n945186

As of June 22, 2020, police have made 14,000 arrests in 49 cities since the protests began, with most arrests being locals charged with low-level offenses such as violating curfews or blocking roadways. As of July 25, 2020, at least 29 people have died during the protests, with 25 due to gunshot wounds.

Do you think all these fine folks are Trump supporters?

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[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Did you seriously just ask why the Obama's would be willing to make speeches for Biden at the Democratic Convention?
In the immortal words of Joe Biden, come on man!

Barack called him his brother and meant it.
Michelle beamed when talking about Joe.

Did you not watch the speeches?
Why do people talk about things they haven't seen as if they'd seen them?

[techtre2003]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Clark is one of those "Borat" type made-up characters.
It's a slow burn, but once you get it, it's very funny.
More wacky word equations, please, Clark!
I love it!



Trump's finest:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-c...iolent-n945186

Fine, if Trump owns that then all of the Democrats coming out to support BLM own all the beatings, murders, and damaged property caused by BLM.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Barack called him his brother and meant it.
Michelle beamed when talking about Joe.

Did you not watch the speeches?
Why do people talk about things they haven't seen as if they'd seen them?

He endorsed Biden only after he was the last Democratic candidate remaining..

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

NASCAR has had fans since June in the following states:
Florida, Alabama, New Hampshire, Tennessee, Texas

The only races where they didn't have fans, are in these states:
Pennsylvania, New York, Michigan, Kentucky, Kansas, Indianapolis, Virginia

The political game continues. The crazy thing is, the states that wouldn't allow it, are doing better because of their killing off of people in the beginning, as well as potentially reaching a level of herd immunity. Who knows why they wouldn't allow fans, besides waiting for a magical vaccine.

So 4 of 5 states Trump carried allowed fans and 3 of the 5 states Trump won did not allow fans. It will be interesting to see how these states play out in 2020. I think Michigan goes Biden for sure but not seeing mich other change. Maybe PA.

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by techtre2003

Fine, if Trump owns that then all of the Democrats coming out to support BLM own all the beatings, murders, and damaged property caused by BLM.

Yes and yes

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

So 4 of 5 states Trump carried allowed fans and 3 of the 5 states Trump won did not allow fans. It will be interesting to see how these states play out in 2020. I think Michigan goes Biden for sure but not seeing mich other change. Maybe PA.

I disagree.

[WCWolves]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

I agree and disagree with you - Twitter and Facebook remove content and members for violent rhetoric or known false and mis-leading statements.



If Trump (and his supporters) want to rant - they have the first amendment right to do that!!!!!



If hate, violence or lies are being spread - REGARDLESS of who is promoting it - I say remove it.

If all hate and lies are removed, 99.9 % of all politicians and 99% of the general public should have the vast majority of their posts removed.

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[Astros19]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Barack called him his brother and meant it.

Michelle beamed when talking about Joe.



Did you not watch the speeches?

Why do people talk about things they haven't seen as if they'd seen them?

Did my point just fly completely over your noggin?
You are probably the only person in America who seems to think it's some kind of surprise that a past Democratic president and first Lady would stump for the current Democrat candidate.
You never fail to let me down.
Thank you for my mid morning laugh.

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[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

So 4 of 5 states Trump carried allowed fans and 3 of the 5 states Trump won did not allow fans. It will be interesting to see how these states play out in 2020. I think Michigan goes Biden for sure but not seeing mich other change. Maybe PA.

I think Michigan goes Trump. People are over Whitmer.

It's hard to say, it is strange the amount of states that have Democratic Governors that Trump won. To me, these states are not helping matters by still trying to be shut down. I know a lot of people in Michigan that voted for Whitmer, who are done with her.