2022 Spidey Metal - Page 14

ForceChange77 · 08-11-2022, 04:07 PM

paying $600 a box for this is a good way to GET boned.

Peachcardsatl · 08-11-2022, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ForceChange77

paying $600 a box for this is a good way to GET boned.

We all want things cheaper but considering X-men metal is holding at $650-750 it seems that this will likely be much higher than $600 at launch (since Spider-Man should trade at a premium to X-men)

finfangfan · 08-11-2022, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Peachcardsatl

We all want things cheaper but considering X-men metal is holding at $650-750 it seems that this will likely be much higher than $600 at launch (since Spider-Man should trade at a premium to X-men)

I think your logic is a bit off. You are comparing current prices of MUSM to MUXm but are overlooking that supply of unopened MUSM is still at 100% vs. unopened MUXM which is probably less than 10% of its total print run and is a factor of why it is priced where it is today.

DynaEtch · 08-11-2022, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by finfangfan

I think your logic is a bit off. You are comparing current prices of MUSM to MUXm but are overlooking that supply of unopened MUSM is still at 100% vs. unopened MUXM which is probably less than 10% of its total print run and is a factor of why it is priced where it is today.

True, but even taking into account wax supply left, when push comes to shove...which box do you think almost anyone in the hobby would pay more for at this point? X-men or Spidey?

Maybe Im wrong, but I imagine almost anyone would value a Spidey metal box higher, even given the discrepancy in supply.

BipolarBear · 08-11-2022, 05:23 PM

Not to mention the known QC problems with X-Men

glorbgorb · 08-11-2022, 06:00 PM

But sealed boxes are a Schroedinger's cat scenario. They are both damaged or not damaged until it is opened. At this point, X-Men Metal is still a strong hold for sealed boxes.

Brobocop · 08-11-2022, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Peachcardsatl

We all want things cheaper but considering X-men metal is holding at $650-750 it seems that this will likely be much higher than $600 at launch (since Spider-Man should trade at a premium to X-men)

That’s great but the point is opening this at $600+ is gonna leave you, more likely than not, very unhappy.

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ForceChange77 · 08-11-2022, 08:56 PM

By the time these $600 boxes appreciate any, card market is going to be in the shitter

ForceChange77 · 08-11-2022, 08:58 PM

Most people holding x men metal got it at $100 or $150, holding a box of $600 for appreciation purposes seems risky! Same thing with sapphire imho .. although I have two boxes of that sitting on my shelf

Yanks23 · 08-11-2022, 09:05 PM

People have been pre ordering them starting ar like $250 a box. My 1st batch was $300 a box up to $450. I don't think many bought at $600 hence why not sold out again. Plus you are way under estimated the whatnot breakers for this product. There will be easy 20 people breaking boxes of this every day for weeks. If you been on app you see how much of the weisss kayou and camon was broke over past months. Spidey is 1st new release since whatnot took off as breaking app.

Gambit C10 · 08-12-2022, 07:00 AM

A new wrinkle is the PMGs are supposed to look better. Now the art chosen, who knows.

finfangfan · 08-12-2022, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambit C10

A new wrinkle is the PMGs are supposed to look better. Now the art chosen, who knows.

Are the PMGs thick like the FUSM PMGs?

Yanks23 · 08-12-2022, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambit C10

A new wrinkle is the PMGs are supposed to look better. Now the art chosen, who knows.

my guess it will be same as xmen with high series being 1st app artwork and that seems like what sell sheet pics looked like but low series will be interesting to see how new artwork they pic.

Yanks23 · 08-12-2022, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by finfangfan

Are the PMGs thick like the FUSM PMGs?

i think it is same stock as xmen so thin not thick but how knows with all delays.

stlfan78 · 08-15-2022, 05:54 PM

Checklist for those interested.

https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...-trading-cards

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Brobocop · 08-15-2022, 06:26 PM

Am I reading that right, only red and green PMGs?

stlfan78 · 08-15-2022, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brobocop

Am I reading that right, only red and green PMGs?

That’s what I saw.

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Xazark · 08-15-2022, 06:27 PM

Sketches are 1 per 12 box case

I assume #24 of the Palladium set is Mary Jane, its noted as not listed but seems like a fairly obvious exclusion if its not

finfangfan · 08-15-2022, 06:37 PM

Peter Porker has a cool base metal card showing!

Tim · 08-15-2022, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Xazark

Sketches are 1 per 12 box case

No, they are less that.

Xazark · 08-15-2022, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim

No, they are less that.

Sketch Cards Set Checklist
54 artists.
Overall odds - 1:144 Hobby/ePack

I guess the odds listed are wrong then

glorbgorb · 08-15-2022, 07:16 PM

Interesting. I have several Rhinos to chase, but not a single Firestar?

armyml · 08-15-2022, 07:35 PM

Welp...I'm gonna need Peter Porker and J. Jonah Jameson PMGs from this.

Tim · 08-15-2022, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Xazark

Sketch Cards Set Checklist
54 artists.
Overall odds - 1:144 Hobby/ePack

I guess the odds listed are wrong then

Nope, cardboard connection contradicted themselves saying that there's a case hit between sketches or other items like comic clippings.

finfangfan · 08-15-2022, 08:46 PM

Has anyone done the math to guesstimate the hobby/ePack print run? And how does that compare to the best estimate of MUXM’s print run?

08-11-2022, 06:00 PM	#331
glorbgorb Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,938 weasel-king weaselking	But sealed boxes are a Schroedinger's cat scenario. They are both damaged or not damaged until it is opened. At this point, X-Men Metal is still a strong hold for sealed boxes. __________________ Go green--reuse toploaders! Tons of cards available: https://rhinosgonecrazy.com/html/index_avail.html

08-15-2022, 07:16 PM	#347
glorbgorb Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,938 weasel-king weaselking	Interesting. I have several Rhinos to chase, but not a single Firestar? __________________ Go green--reuse toploaders! Tons of cards available: https://rhinosgonecrazy.com/html/index_avail.html

08-11-2022, 04:07 PM	#326
ForceChange77 Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 3,625 chansterbogey	paying $600 a box for this is a good way to GET boned.

08-11-2022, 05:23 PM	#330
BipolarBear Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 311 knifebeardthepirate	Not to mention the known QC problems with X-Men

08-11-2022, 08:56 PM	#333
ForceChange77 Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 3,625 chansterbogey	By the time these $600 boxes appreciate any, card market is going to be in the shitter

08-11-2022, 08:58 PM	#334
ForceChange77 Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 3,625 chansterbogey	Most people holding x men metal got it at $100 or $150, holding a box of $600 for appreciation purposes seems risky! Same thing with sapphire imho .. although I have two boxes of that sitting on my shelf

08-11-2022, 09:05 PM	#335
Yanks23 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: VEGAS Posts: 1,107 ellios23	People have been pre ordering them starting ar like $250 a box. My 1st batch was $300 a box up to $450. I don't think many bought at $600 hence why not sold out again. Plus you are way under estimated the whatnot breakers for this product. There will be easy 20 people breaking boxes of this every day for weeks. If you been on app you see how much of the weisss kayou and camon was broke over past months. Spidey is 1st new release since whatnot took off as breaking app.

08-12-2022, 07:00 AM	#336
Gambit C10 Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 587	A new wrinkle is the PMGs are supposed to look better. Now the art chosen, who knows.

08-15-2022, 05:54 PM	#340
stlfan78 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: O'Fallon MO Posts: 1,153	Checklist for those interested. https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...-trading-cards Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-15-2022, 06:26 PM	#341
Brobocop Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 13,722 brobocop2	Am I reading that right, only red and green PMGs?

08-15-2022, 06:27 PM	#343
Xazark Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Australia Posts: 1,331 stormernumber1 stormernumber1	Sketches are 1 per 12 box case I assume #24 of the Palladium set is Mary Jane, its noted as not listed but seems like a fairly obvious exclusion if its not

08-15-2022, 06:37 PM	#344
finfangfan Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 11,042	Peter Porker has a cool base metal card showing!

08-15-2022, 07:35 PM	#348
armyml Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Chicago/Warsaw Indiana Posts: 1,140 nicodemuscards	Welp...I'm gonna need Peter Porker and J. Jonah Jameson PMGs from this.

08-15-2022, 08:46 PM	#350
finfangfan Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 11,042	Has anyone done the math to guesstimate the hobby/ePack print run? And how does that compare to the best estimate of MUXM’s print run?