Westbrook in straight beast mode again... - Page 14

tennelson55 · 11-29-2016, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris P

They traded away Serge on draft day before KD left.....supposedly even got KD's blessing on the deal. The Serge trade wasn't just on Russ...it was to help get more help for KD and Russ

The trade got them more help? Trading away a stellar mid range shooter for a first round pick is straight rebuild. Durant and Westbrook didn't talk after the series and both knew what was going to happen; including the organization. This wasn't hidden AT ALL and is why I see distane between the two.

asujbl · 11-29-2016, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tennelson55

The trade got them more help? Trading away a stellar mid range shooter for a first round pick is straight rebuild. Durant and Westbrook didn't talk after the series and both knew what was going to happen; including the organization. This wasn't hidden AT ALL and is why I see distane between the two.

Did they release Oladipo? Weird. I missed that.

Chris P · 11-29-2016, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tennelson55

The trade got them more help? Trading away a stellar mid range shooter for a first round pick is straight rebuild. Durant and Westbrook didn't talk after the series and both knew what was going to happen; including the organization. This wasn't hidden AT ALL and is why I see distane between the two.

I don't see getting Olidipo, a 1st round pick, and what was supposed to be bench depth in Illysova for Serge as a rebuild..I saw it as trying to get scoring help for KD and Russ along with getting a nice prospect to play behind Kanter/Adams. All I'm saying is the trade happened before Durant left not afterwards..Durant was still in the organizations plans whether you believe that is up to you, but the Thunder DID think KD was resigning and that move was made with the intention of making the team better overall

tennelson55 · 11-29-2016, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Did they release Oladipo? Weird. I missed that.

I wouldn't compare the talents of oladipo and a 17th pick to serge. They're not comparable by any standard IMO. The thunder did what they had to do with Durant on his way out.

asujbl · 11-29-2016, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tennelson55

I wouldn't compare the talents of oladipo and a 17th pick to serge. They're not comparable by any standard IMO. The thunder did what they had to do with Durant on his way out.

#11 pick

If you're going to just keep posting things at least be accurate... so lets clear this up because so far you've gotten the pick wrong and you completely failed to mention Oladipo when you said that trading Serge for a 1st rounder was a "straight rebuild"

Ibaka was traded before Durant left.
Ibaka was traded for the #11 pick, Victor Oladipo, and Ersan Ilyasova
Ilyasova was traded for Jerami Grant

Chris P · 11-29-2016, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tennelson55

I wouldn't compare the talents of oladipo and a 17th pick to serge. They're not comparable by any standard IMO. The thunder did what they had to do with Durant on his way out.

That's fine, that's your opinion and Sabonis was the 11th or 12th pick, he was a lottery pick, but still you don't think it was great trade for Serge, most around the league did and thought it was a great move to get KD to stay. Again you think one way, the organization thinks another, you can think they are delusional but they made that move to entice KD to stay and from what was reported he signed off on it

duron · 11-29-2016, 02:56 PM

I'm a Knicks fan so I usually watch about 70% of all the games on MSG, and wow, there was a play last night where Westbrook grabbed a rebound over 2/3 bigs at once, but the thing is....

...he started his jump for the ball from practically BEHIND the backboard into the top of key. Lol. Was an amazing play.

drobfan8 · 11-29-2016, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

#11 pick

If you're going to just keep posting things at least be accurate... so lets clear this up because so far you've gotten the pick wrong and you completely failed to mention Oladipo when you said that trading Serge for a 1st rounder was a "straight rebuild"

Ibaka was traded before Durant left.
Ibaka was traded for the #11 pick, Victor Oladipo, and Ersan Ilyasova
Ilyasova was traded for Jerami Grant

And KD had even made comments about the trade, saying it was a positive step to them getting more help.

I thought he would stay, I mean, they had just taken GS all the way and KD was completely to blame for the loss (as well as Westbrook), KD had the scared eyes late in game 6.

Chris P · 11-29-2016, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

And KD had even made comments about the trade, saying it was a positive step to them getting more help.

I thought he would stay, I mean, they had just taken GS all the way and KD was completely to blame for the loss (as well as Westbrook), KD had the scared eyes late in game 6.

Agree with this 100%..I'm a big Westbrook fan but both he and KD had failed miserably when they had GS on the ropes in both games 6 and 7

tennelson55 · 11-29-2016, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris P

That's fine, that's your opinion and Sabonis was the 11th or 12th pick, he was a lottery pick, but still you don't think it was great trade for Serge, most around the league did and thought it was a great move to get KD to stay. Again you think one way, the organization thinks another, you can think they are delusional but they made that move to entice KD to stay and from what was reported he signed off on it

Entice him all they please... It couldn't stop him from leaving and it didn't. I see it as a rebuilding phase and not an attempt to upgrade (opinion based) by acquiring young Dipo and the 1st round pick (with ersan).

Ottomatic · 11-29-2016, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tennelson55

I wouldn't compare the talents of oladipo and a 17th pick to serge. They're not comparable by any standard IMO. The thunder did what they had to do with Durant on his way out.

Oladipo and Serge have been basically the same player this year. Oladipo is probably slightly on the upswing and Serge on the down. Plus a first round pick is a very very valuable asset. That trade made the Thunder better.

Chris P · 11-29-2016, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ottomatic

Oladipo and Serge have been basically the same player this year. Oladipo is probably slightly on the upswing and Serge on the down. Plus a first round pick is a very very valuable asset. That trade made the Thunder better.

Also, I'm pretty sure Serge's contract was coming up next season as well and I don't think the Thunder were going to keep him regardless if KD was still there or not, so they traded him for assets instead of losing him for nothing and got a nice haul

tennelson55 · 11-29-2016, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ottomatic

Oladipo and Serge have been basically the same player this year. Oladipo is probably slightly on the upswing and Serge on the down. Plus a first round pick is a very very valuable asset. That trade made the Thunder better.

For what OKC had going in Westbrook being a great driver and then Durant shooter while ibaka is a FaNTASTIC jump shooter (his 3 point percentage is crazy good) I believe he'd work wonders with the previous group of the squad above.

I don't see the thunder winning a chip anytime soon and it's not enjoyable to go through. I think the organization messed up, trading serge and getting the other pieces.

deemsterz33 · 11-29-2016, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tennelson55

For what OKC had going in Westbrook being a great driver and then Durant shooter while ibaka is a FaNTASTIC jump shooter (his 3 point percentage is crazy good) I believe he'd work wonders with the previous group of the squad above.

I don't see the thunder winning a chip anytime soon and it's not enjoyable to go through. I think the organization messed up, trading serge and getting the other pieces.

Agree. Highly doubtful anyone besides SA or GS wins the West for the next 4 years.

CubKings · 11-30-2016, 10:35 PM

Having another off shooting night, but has 4 straight triple doubles. And hit a big 3 with 8 seconds left to send it to OT.

Now he's taking over early in OT.

NeedChapmans · 11-30-2016, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CubKings

Having another off shooting night, but has 4 straight triple doubles. And hit a big 3 with 8 seconds left to send it to OT.

Now he's taking over early in OT.

I don't think you can call it an off shooting night anymore. I think it's just what you're gonna get from Westbrook as this kind of player.

Monster stats, no shot.

exitmusicblue · 11-30-2016, 10:43 PM

Any time Russ has a triple-double, his shooting % should be attached.

33%... next coming of MJ, he is not.

CubKings · 11-30-2016, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I don't think you can call it an off shooting night anymore. I think it's just what you're gonna get from Westbrook as this kind of player.

Monster stats, no shot.

Could be true on that. He has killed it in OT, though.

CubKings · 11-30-2016, 10:46 PM

12 points in OT so far.

seabass97166 · 11-30-2016, 10:47 PM

M-V-P

tjforce · 11-30-2016, 10:49 PM

Hahah A lot of haters out there.

17 points in the last 5:08 to seal the game.

NeedChapmans · 11-30-2016, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by seabass97166

M-V-P

Probably the leader, but Anthony Davis right on his heels. (How does the league look upon MVP's w/ poor shooting percentages?)

tjforce · 11-30-2016, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Probably the leader, but Anthony Davis right on his heels. (How does the league look upon MVP's w/ poor shooting percentages?)

Pretty good when they're averaging 31/10.5/11

ninjacookies · 11-30-2016, 10:51 PM

Lol. 'Bad' shot selection Westbrook nails the 3 to bring the game to OT then completely obliterates the Wizzard in the final 5 minutes.

What an overrated dud.

exitmusicblue · 11-30-2016, 10:52 PM

Pretty bad when they make 1 in 3 shots. Makes Steve Nash look like a sharpshooter.

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CubKings Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Earth Posts: 6,518	Having another off shooting night, but has 4 straight triple doubles. And hit a big 3 with 8 seconds left to send it to OT. Now he's taking over early in OT. __________________ NBA: Marbury, Jordan, Kobe, Westbrook, KD, AI, Jazz MLB: Chicago Cubs, Stanton, Aramis Ramirez, Sosa NFL: Minnesota Vikings, Randy Moss, Adrian Peterson https://sportscardalbum.com/u/cublife

11-30-2016, 10:46 PM	#344
CubKings Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Earth Posts: 6,518	12 points in OT so far. __________________ NBA: Marbury, Jordan, Kobe, Westbrook, KD, AI, Jazz MLB: Chicago Cubs, Stanton, Aramis Ramirez, Sosa NFL: Minnesota Vikings, Randy Moss, Adrian Peterson https://sportscardalbum.com/u/cublife

11-30-2016, 10:49 PM	#346
tjforce Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 22,815	Hahah A lot of haters out there. 17 points in the last 5:08 to seal the game. __________________ "Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because it’s the best thing going. Wooooo!"

11-30-2016, 10:43 PM	#342
exitmusicblue Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 14,027	Any time Russ has a triple-double, his shooting % should be attached. 33%... next coming of MJ, he is not.

11-30-2016, 10:47 PM	#345
seabass97166 Banned Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,685	M-V-P

11-30-2016, 10:51 PM	#349
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 56,397	Lol. 'Bad' shot selection Westbrook nails the 3 to bring the game to OT then completely obliterates the Wizzard in the final 5 minutes. What an overrated dud.

11-30-2016, 10:52 PM	#350
exitmusicblue Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 14,027	Pretty bad when they make 1 in 3 shots. Makes Steve Nash look like a sharpshooter.