2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here

[natbornkiller]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

I'm still baffled at how Hillary beat out Bernie. Seriously, I can think of maybe, MAYBE 4-5 friends that voted for her in the primaries. I can think of hundreds of folks that voted for Bernie. Hillary calls herself a progressive, but I don't see where. There are endless examples of where she's flip flopped her position to suit the blowing winds...

super delegates

[Davesportscards]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

I'm still baffled at how Hillary beat out Bernie. Seriously, I can think of maybe, MAYBE 4-5 friends that voted for her in the primaries. I can think of hundreds of folks that voted for Bernie. Hillary calls herself a progressive, but I don't see where. There are endless examples of where she's flip flopped her position to suit the blowing winds...

Originally Posted by jcardstore

She beat out Bernie because she's part of the establishment. She can be bought by the highest bidder and she's got high friends in high places. None of those things describe Bernie

Not too mention, compare the amount of Super Delegates each one had.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Benghazi's not a scandal I guess, illegally mishandling state secrets isn't a scandal I guess, how about all of the documented criminals who repeatedly donated to her campaigns, or how she blatantly lied about her landing in Bosnia, travelgate anyone? She's flip flopped on every single issue and gets all of her money from wall street big boys and defense contractors

Wow.

The secrets were not "illegally" mishandled. That's why no charges were brought. The FBI knew it would lose if it attempted to prosecute. Benghazi was a tragedy, not a scandal. That's why no charges were brought. The scandal occurred after the fact when the Right used the four Benghazi dead they otherwise could not have cared less about in a cheap effort to make political hay over and over again at enormous taxpayer suspense.
Bosnia landings?
Travelgate?
Do you think maybe she wore one of her sorority sister's sweaters back in college without asking first? Better look into that.

You have nothing, but you think you have everything. This is why simple things are so difficult for you to grasp, and why every day is a series of unpleasant surprises for you.

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

She beat out Bernie because she's part of the establishment. She can be bought by the highest bidder and she's got high friends in high places. None of those things describe Bernie

I'm aware of how it "happened", but I just don't see where the eff the votes came/are coming from. Again, I guess I'm expecting the democratic base to have some conviction and fight for the candidate that they want...

[Boo]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

I'm still baffled at how Hillary beat out Bernie. Seriously, I can think of maybe, MAYBE 4-5 friends that voted for her in the primaries. I can think of hundreds of folks that voted for Bernie. Hillary calls herself a progressive, but I don't see where. There are endless examples of where she's flip flopped her position to suit the blowing winds...

Bernie is way out in left field, too far left.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

She beat out Bernie because she's part of the establishment. She can be bought by the highest bidder and she's got high friends in high places. None of those things describe Bernie. She had all the "behind the scenes" support

She has Bernie's support, too.

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by natbornkiller

super delegates

Originally Posted by Davesportscards

Not too mention, compare the amount of Super Delegates each one had.

Are these like sooper dooper pooper collectors

Yes, I'm aware of what a "super" delegate is

[mfisher27]

This is the typical, ignorant response from the anti-gun people. You have no idea what you're talking about in regards to firearms. You probably believed Diana DeGette about the use of magazines didn't you?

Originally Posted by jdandns

Where I bolded it for you. Providing for the general welfare includes investing in the overall good health of our citizens.
Our nation is only as strong as our people are.

Now you remind me, where does the 2nd Amendment say anything about automatic weapons?

(Also, what does "TWTFIT" stand for? Type it out. What else are you doing?)

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by jdandns

She has Bernie's support, too.

Bernie sold out...

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by Boo

Bernie is way out in left field, too far left.

Not if you poll those that identify as democrats. Or at least not the democrats I know. Hell, of my democrat/progressive friends, I bet Bernie supporters outweigh Hillary 10:1.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Wow.

The secrets were not "illegally" mishandled. That's why no charges were brought. The FBI knew it would lose if it attempted to prosecute. Benghazi was a tragedy, not a scandal. That's why no charges were brought. The scandal occurred after the fact when the Right used the four Benghazi dead they otherwise could not have cared less about in a cheap effort to make political hay over and over again at enormous taxpayer suspense.
Bosnia landings?
Travelgate?
Do you think maybe she wore one of her sorority sister's sweaters back in college without asking first? Better look into that.

You have nothing, but you think you have everything. This is why simple things are so difficult for you to grasp, and why every day is a series of unpleasant surprises for you.

So because she didn't get prosecuted the things she did, or didn't do, they weren't wrong?

You just further proved my point that you're the kind of person that truly believes that no democrat could ever do anything wrong and every republican is evil and could never do anything right. It's truly scary to think that you cannot see past the party title to look at the person behind it.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by mfisher27

This is the typical, ignorant response from the anti-gun people. You have no idea what you're talking about in regards to firearms. You probably believed Diana DeGette about the use of magazines didn't you?

No. I don't know what that refers to. Elaborate if you care to.
I'm not anti-gun, either. I'm not sure where you got that.
I'm am anti-slaughter.

[Davesportscards]

Originally Posted by jdandns

No. I don't know what that refers to. Elaborate if you care to.
I'm not anti-gun, either. I'm not sure where you got that.
I'm am anti-slaughter.

So you talk about that which you have no clue.

Says automatic weapons but has no idea what that means. Seems about right.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

Not if you poll those that identify as democrats. Or at least not the democrats I know. Hell, of my democrat/progressive friends, I bet Bernie supporters outweigh Hillary 10:1.

Same here, besides the one guy in this thread I can think of 1 Hillary supporter of the people that I know or talk to. All of the people I talked to who were voting dem were Bernie fans.

Just goes to show that the public vote doesn't really mean much

[Viking6]

Originally Posted by jdandns

I'm am anti-slaughter.

Should we outlaw trucks too after what happened in Nice?

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

Bernie sold out...

Literally sold out. I would compare it to Trump and Clinton joining hands. That did more harm than good for Hillary IMO.

[Davesportscards]

Originally Posted by Viking6

Should we outlaw trucks too after what happened in Nice?

No just trucks that have the option of high capacity storage.

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by jdandns

I'd say he's the Jackie Robinson of politics. Solely on his own merits, he might've been just another President, maybe even a one-termer, but the blunt opposition solely for the sake of opposition he was subjected for 7+ years has provided him the springboard he needed to reveal an awful lot of people for what they were: simply awful people.
The GOP is rightly paying the price for their bad behavior now. Their nominee is a glorified carnival barker. Their party is in shambles. Perhaps what emerges after the November autopsy will become a factor in national elections again at some point, but they have a long way to go.

Jackie Robinson was a Hall of Famer. Obama will not be remembered for anything, but being the first African American President. Kind of sad, because I had high hopes for what he could have done for inner cities across America. Unemployment for African Americans under Bush vs. Obama.

Bush-Highest 12.1% Lowest 7.7% Obama-Highest 16.8% Lowest 9.5%

No wonder he isn't moving back to Chicago. Might get shot for not helping his home community.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by Viking6

Should we outlaw trucks too after what happened in Nice?

we should just limit the trucks to 10mph

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by babyfaceposey

Jackie Robinson was a Hall of Famer. Obama will not be remembered for anything, but being the first African American President. Kind of sad, because I had high hopes for what he could have done for inner cities across America. Unemployment for African Americans under Bush vs. Obama.

Bush-Highest 12.1% Lowest 7.7% Obama-Highest 16.8% Lowest 9.5%

No wonder he isn't moving back to Chicago. Might get shot for not helping his home community.

Hey! Statistics have no place in here!

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

So because she didn't get prosecuted the things she did, or didn't do, they weren't wrong?

You just further proved my point that you're the kind of person that truly believes that no democrat could ever do anything wrong and every republican is evil and could never do anything right. It's truly scary to think that you cannot see past the party title to look at the person behind it.

That's a fairly bizarre leap. Plenty of Democrats have done plenty wrong, were rightly punished, and deserved that punishment. The entire South up until mid 60's were largely Democrats, and the vast majority of them were racist monsters. As for Republicans, there are many that I admired in my younger years, but the GOP of today has largely forced out even slightly moderate voices, rendering them de facto slaves to a backwards-reaching agenda that will never return to the fore.

The point is, when it comes to criminal prosecution, it's not for us everyday average citizens to decide. The people who have those jobs are privy to all of the information and have the necessary understanding of the law to determine whether or not charges are warranted. Our own personal biases for or against someone are opinions only, and not indictments that can be proven in court. It's important to not forget that distinction.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Hey! Statistics have no place in here!

Go ahead and hit me with the nationwide numbers under both men since you have it there in front of you.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

we should just limit the trucks to 10mph

No, that would be impractical.
But the guns he was also firing at people?
Piece of cake...

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Davesportscards

So you talk about that which you have no clue.

Says automatic weapons but has no idea what that means. Seems about right.

More semantics intended to obscure, and "boogie-man" names to go with it.
You may have real bullets in real life, but here, it's nothing but blanks, man.

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by jdandns

That's a fairly bizarre leap. Plenty of Democrats have done plenty wrong, were rightly punished, and deserved that punishment. The entire South up until mid 60's were largely Democrats, and the vast majority of them were racist monsters. As for Republicans, there are many that I admired in my younger years, but the GOP of today has largely forced out even slightly moderate voices, rendering them de facto slaves to a backwards-reaching agenda that will never return to the fore.

The point is, when it comes to criminal prosecution, it's not for us everyday average citizens to decide. The people who have those jobs are privy to all of the information and have the necessary understanding of the law to determine whether or not charges are warranted. Our own personal biases for or against someone are opinions only, and not indictments that can be proven in court. It's important to not forget that distinction.

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