***The Official New York Yankees Thread***

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

Only if someone gets injured is my guess.

Thanks

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

does jones see the show in 2025?

Doubtful with 5 outfielders and his high K rate.

[JAM061200]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

Doubtful with 5 outfielders and his high K rate.

Maybe an August/September call up depending how he's doing in the minors. He's going to be 24 I believe this coming year. Yanks have been waiting a while on some of these guys. But then again, they have to perform warranting the call up.

[Mandy1320]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

does jones see the show in 2025?

I would say yes if he is at least productive to start or has a decent spring...

The OF depth is shallow at the moment and I'm sure the Yanks are still trying to dump Grisham somewhere. It also depends on if they intend to package him in a trade. If they start his service time, that will reduce his value.

[ottobord]

Originally Posted by Mandy1320

I would say yes if he is at least productive to start or has a decent spring...

The OF depth is shallow at the moment and I'm sure the Yanks are still trying to dump Grisham somewhere. It also depends on if they intend to package him in a trade. If they start his service time, that will reduce his value.

I doubt they get rid of Grisham with questions swirling around JD's defense. Grisham can at least field. They also are losing Verdugo's glove. Which was a plus. Jones is a good athlete that probably can do the job in the field but will be Ben Rice at the plate. Hopefully JD can field. And we're set with Bellinger LF JD Center and Judge RF. Not sure if that's a better fielding OF then last year. Soto was not good in the field.

[Mandy1320]

The Yanks still need a 2B/3B. I've been adamant about keeping Jazz at 3B since he has a great arm and can most likely learn to play the position well over time. With that said, I've compiled the remaining 'impactful' options to round out the IF:

Free Agents:

-3B Alex Bregman: I don't think he's a fit, personally. His hitting metrics don't play well in NY and he's asking for a big commitment. Still a really good fielder, though.
-INF Ha-Seong Kim: Consistent below-average bat but, he does everything else really well. I don't think the Yanks would want to commit more than a couple of years to him with the bottom of the lineup already looking questionable at best.
-2B Jorge Polanco: Could prove to be a nice stopgap 2B if he can bounce back after a terrible 2024. He's also been hurt the last 3 seasons so not sure what the price tag would look like.

Trade Candidates:

-3B Ryan McMahon: Under contract until after 2027 only making $11.6m on the luxury tax. Great defense and a lefty bat that would do really well in NY even after factoring in the (often misunderstood) "Coors Effect". Since he is with the Rockies, I'm not sure if he's even available to pry from that garbage org. Would almost be a perfect fit.
-3B Alec Bohm: Phillies are openly shopping him around. With 2 years of team control left, he would fit the window the Yanks are looking at. Good hitter, good fielder, used to playing in front of a rowdy crowd. Not sure why we haven't heard anything linking the Phils and Yanks together on this.
-2B Brendan Donovan: Cards are selling. However, Donovan is a really good player with 3 years of team control left. He might flirt with 20HR in YS while hitting .280 and providing good defense (he also plays the OF). This is a guy you would have to make a package for but it would be well worth it, IMO.

[ottobord]

I think what everyone might be missing, I really think that Volpe isn't going to stick as SS. If he has any future it's at second and he just doesn't hit enough. He started to fade pretty bad at the end of last year. He's already maxed out his physical ability. We could see things starting to shake up this year.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by Mandy1320

The Yanks still need a 2B/3B. I've been adamant about keeping Jazz at 3B since he has a great arm and can most likely learn to play the position well over time. With that said, I've compiled the remaining 'impactful' options to round out the IF:

Free Agents:

-3B Alex Bregman: I don't think he's a fit, personally. His hitting metrics don't play well in NY and he's asking for a big commitment. Still a really good fielder, though.
-INF Ha-Seong Kim: Consistent below-average bat but, he does everything else really well. I don't think the Yanks would want to commit more than a couple of years to him with the bottom of the lineup already looking questionable at best.
-2B Jorge Polanco: Could prove to be a nice stopgap 2B if he can bounce back after a terrible 2024. He's also been hurt the last 3 seasons so not sure what the price tag would look like.

Trade Candidates:

-3B Ryan McMahon: Under contract until after 2027 only making $11.6m on the luxury tax. Great defense and a lefty bat that would do really well in NY even after factoring in the (often misunderstood) "Coors Effect". Since he is with the Rockies, I'm not sure if he's even available to pry from that garbage org. Would almost be a perfect fit.
-3B Alec Bohm: Phillies are openly shopping him around. With 2 years of team control left, he would fit the window the Yanks are looking at. Good hitter, good fielder, used to playing in front of a rowdy crowd. Not sure why we haven't heard anything linking the Phils and Yanks together on this.
-2B Brendan Donovan: Cards are selling. However, Donovan is a really good player with 3 years of team control left. He might flirt with 20HR in YS while hitting .280 and providing good defense (he also plays the OF). This is a guy you would have to make a package for but it would be well worth it, IMO.

Kim has been a league avg bat since coming to the majors. Career wRC+ of 101 and all.

[hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by JRX

Kim has been a league avg bat since coming to the majors. Career wRC+ of 101 and all.

Plus he's coming off surgery, should have Cashman drooling.

But seriously he is a plus fielder with some speed and his K rate went way down last year.



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[Mandy1320]

Originally Posted by JRX

Kim has been a league avg bat since coming to the majors. Career wRC+ of 101 and all.

Sure, while playing 81 games at Petco which is the second-most pitcher friendly park in the MLB (which boosts wRC+).

I'm looking at his production the last 3 seasons (103 OPS+) and his baserunning is far and away his best offensive tool.

I'm not saying we wouldn't be productive or isn't a step up from our current options but if ANYTHING takes a dip offensively, signing him to 4-5 year deal is going to look foolish.

[Mandy1320]

Originally Posted by ottobord

I think what everyone might be missing, I really think that Volpe isn't going to stick as SS. If he has any future it's at second and he just doesn't hit enough. He started to fade pretty bad at the end of last year. He's already maxed out his physical ability. We could see things starting to shake up this year.

You're not wrong. But, if you think the 2B/3B market is weak then the SS is almost nonexistent. Volpe, Peraza, Cabrera is the current SS depth.

At the end of the 2025 season, the SS FA market will be headlined by Bichette and Edman. The Yankees pretty much NEED Volpe to work out.

[JRX]

Oh don't get me wrong, I'd like them to sign Kim especially if it wouldn't require a big contract. They still need more speed.

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[ottobord]

Originally Posted by Mandy1320

You're not wrong. But, if you think the 2B/3B market is weak then the SS is almost nonexistent. Volpe, Peraza, Cabrera is the current SS depth.

At the end of the 2025 season, the SS FA market will be headlined by Bichette and Edman. The Yankees pretty much NEED Volpe to work out.

Then we hope Lombard Jr. Or Arias is the answer. Lombard is the better of the two IMHO, but neither of them are putting up numbers to get anyone excited. Assuming nothing happens till spring training I would let Cabrera and Peraza fight it out at 3rd. They both still make the team. Jazz at 2nd. Word is Yankees have no interest in Bregman or Arenado.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by ottobord

I think what everyone might be missing, I really think that Volpe isn't going to stick as SS. If he has any future it's at second and he just doesn't hit enough. He started to fade pretty bad at the end of last year. He's already maxed out his physical ability. We could see things starting to shake up this year.

That's why I'd like to rare back and kick whoever in the nuts that thought taking him over Gunnar was a good idea.

[mantlefan7]

Originally Posted by Mandy1320

You're not wrong. But, if you think the 2B/3B market is weak then the SS is almost nonexistent. Volpe, Peraza, Cabrera is the current SS depth.

At the end of the 2025 season, the SS FA market will be headlined by Bichette and Edman. The Yankees pretty much NEED Volpe to work out.

Edman signed a five year deal with the Dodgers, so an even thinner FA class.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by marl1220

That's why I'd like to rare back and kick whoever in the nuts that thought taking him over Gunnar was a good idea.

I said that all year as Gunnar was in the AL MVP conversation early and Volpe was regressing.

[Mandy1320]

Originally Posted by mantlefan7

Edman signed a five year deal with the Dodgers, so an even thinner FA class.

Totally blanked on that....thanks! If Bo has a good year, he's going to get $$$$$.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by Mandy1320

Totally blanked on that....thanks! If Bo has a good year, he's going to get $$$$$.

Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see if the Blue Jays pay for both him and Vladdy.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see if the Blue Jays pay for both him and Vladdy.

Vladdy would be beyond stupid to not at least see if Cohen will give him a bag.

[Mandy1320]

Originally Posted by JRX

Vladdy would be beyond stupid to not at least see if Cohen will give him a bag.

I truly believe Vlad is the sole reason Alonso is not currently a Met.

[JAM061200]

Originally Posted by Mandy1320

I truly believe Vlad is the sole reason Alonso is not currently a Met.

Or maybe the reason Yanks signed Goldy to only 1 year and have not committed any more big $$$ to any more FA's. Cashman may be getting ready to throw a nice number Vlad's way at the end of 2025.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by JAM061200

Or maybe the reason Yanks signed Goldy to only 1 year and have not committed any more big $$$ to any more FA's. Cashman may be getting ready to throw a nice number Vlad's way at the end of 2025.

If Cohen wants Vladdy, he will be a Met. He's the only owner that runs his team in the red and can afford to do so in perpetuity if he wants.

[Mandy1320]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see if the Blue Jays pay for both him and Vladdy.

I don't think they get either tbh. Just look at the success rate of the Jays' FA chase recently.

They would have outbid almost every market besides NY and California and then convince them to stay knowing that the farm isn't good (only 1 prospect in the Top 100 at #94).

Toronto fans have it rough, man.

[Mandy1320]

Originally Posted by JAM061200

Or maybe the reason Yanks signed Goldy to only 1 year and have not committed any more big $$$ to any more FA's. Cashman may be getting ready to throw a nice number Vlad's way at the end of 2025.

Eh, maybe. It's yet another situation where the Yanks might have to pass on a good/great hitter solely because their future is likely to be a full time DH. Stanton currently claims that spot and Judge could very well slide into there in the next 3-4 years. Who knows, right?

Vlad is only 26 and can barely field at 1B as is.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by Mandy1320

Eh, maybe. It's yet another situation where the Yanks might have to pass on a good/great hitter solely because their future is likely to be a full time DH. Stanton currently claims that spot and Judge could very well slide into there in the next 3-4 years. Who knows, right?

Vlad is only 26 and can barely field at 1B as is.

Same for Alonso, they're both bottom tier defensive first basemen that will likely age very poorly. That said, Vladdy will probably mash until at least 30.