Patrick Mahomes Prices

[jjrpilot]

Originally Posted by Stringmusic

Still looking for a rookie auto, but man some people still think it’s 2020-2021.

When comps show a card worth 5k-5.5k, you’re not getting 9.5k for it.

Take the Limited auto for instance, the last two sales are BGS 8 and 8.5 for 2.6 and 2.8 but people are asking 8k for them and seem offended by a 3k offer lol

I’ve pretty much looked everywhere online for one with no luck. I’m just going to have to be patient and wait for something good to come up for auction because that seems like the only way to buy at market value.

Ya, it's funny bc everyone knows about peak pricing during Covid, yet everyone still prices items like it's a few years ago.

On a side note, I was able to land a pretty rare Mahomes last night. Stay tuned friends.

[nabzy28]

Originally Posted by jjrpilot

Ya, it's funny bc everyone knows about peak pricing during Covid, yet everyone still prices items like it's a few years ago.

On a side note, I was able to land a pretty rare Mahomes last night. Stay tuned friends.

Just gotta get a table at a show, get someone to video blog for ya and post up a sign "paying 90%+ comps" ... and turn down everything that isn't auto'd Mahomes RC's. I think that's how it works, now.

[tjforce]

Say what you want about Covid prices, but it's hard as hell to find anybody who wants to sell high Gem Mint copies of rare Mahomes rookies.

[eastbayak]

I haven't been following but how much have Mahomes prices fallen?

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

I haven't been following but how much have Mahomes prices fallen?

Plummeted. Worth less that Kyler Murray now.


JK. Obviously since peak stuff is down, but XRC and Prizm PSA 10s are back over $4k. It also seems like less of his rare stuff is available for a reasonable price, especially in high grade. Either people are just holding for the off season, or a lot of the key stuff is really falling into PC's and long term holds.

[KardsC1]

Anyone holding mahomes knows they have the golden goose guy…no one is selling low unless it’s common cards (Optic colors, base Prizms etc)
Covid prices were absurd, but everyone knows mahomes is the guy

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by KardsC1

Anyone holding mahomes knows they have the golden goose guy…no one is selling low unless it’s common cards (Optic colors, base Prizms etc)
Covid prices were absurd, but everyone knows mahomes is the guy

There's been an absence of his stuff in major auctions lately... maybe it's just people holding for the start of the season, but it's hard to find anything very good of him for a reasonable price right now.

[KardsC1]

I’m sure some big mahomes cards will show up in auctions in Aug and likely in January..but yes, as of late, haven’t seen NT or flawless RPAs in auctions..last night a cracked ice sold for 68k..if you are holding onto rare and high end mahomes, you should do well long term

[boxbuster7]

so glad I got this one a few months back - really haven't seen any numbered mahomes rcs on COMC since

[IMG] 2017 Panini Preferred - Crown Royale - Bronze #84 - Rookies - Patrick Mahomes II /299 [PSA 8 NM‑MT] Courtesy of COMC.com[/IMG]

[tjforce]

Two strong sales tonight on eBay:

2017 Prizm PSA 10 for $4,494.
2016 Select XRC PSA 10 for $4,500.

Steady increase on these.

[boxbuster7]

XRC was a good buy. Prizm...not so much

[kipgen]

This is more of a general question than one pertaining to Mahomes specifically, but when you get into the range of really high value cards ($5000+), does the PSA grade actually matter all that much? Seems to me a Mahomes RPA is still a Mahomes RPA, whether it grades an 8 or a 10, while I could see a lot more hemming and hawing about a CJ Stroud PSA 9 Prizm Silver vs a PSA 10

[KardsC1]

Originally Posted by kipgen

This is more of a general question than one pertaining to Mahomes specifically, but when you get into the range of really high value cards ($5000+), does the PSA grade actually matter all that much? Seems to me a Mahomes RPA is still a Mahomes RPA, whether it grades an 8 or a 10, while I could see a lot more hemming and hawing about a CJ Stroud PSA 9 Prizm Silver vs a PSA 10

Psa 10 will always command a premium..ex: Psa 10 NT RPA goes for about 180-200k even with a average patch vs 70k for a psa 9…Psa 10 cracked ice goes for 115k vs psa 8 35k… so yes the grade matters..personally as a collector, I rather buy lower graded cards just to have the card without the “psa 10 price”…I will always buy the card and not the grade

[jjrpilot]

Originally Posted by kipgen

This is more of a general question than one pertaining to Mahomes specifically, but when you get into the range of really high value cards ($5000+), does the PSA grade actually matter all that much? Seems to me a Mahomes RPA is still a Mahomes RPA, whether it grades an 8 or a 10, while I could see a lot more hemming and hawing about a CJ Stroud PSA 9 Prizm Silver vs a PSA 10

I think in the end people will be glad to get anything they can etc. Right now people can be choosey bc there are still options to be had.

IF Mahomes continues winning SB's at his pace...there won't be much to pick from and at that point people will take any grade they can get.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by kipgen

This is more of a general question than one pertaining to Mahomes specifically, but when you get into the range of really high value cards ($5000+), does the PSA grade actually matter all that much? Seems to me a Mahomes RPA is still a Mahomes RPA, whether it grades an 8 or a 10, while I could see a lot more hemming and hawing about a CJ Stroud PSA 9 Prizm Silver vs a PSA 10

Grade makes all the difference in the world, especially with Mahomes. Here's the thing:

There are A LOT of Mahomes rookie autos on the market. You'll never have trouble tracking one down if all you want is a less than perfect condition Mahomes auto.

Now go try to find a reasonably priced PSA 10 or BGS 9.5 with a 10 auto of a significant card for a reasonable price. There cards rarely come up for auction, and are either being held for ransom at a high BIN price, or tucked away in a PC. It'll be more apparent as time goes on, but this is one of those 'happening before our eyes' type things.

[kipgen]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Grade makes all the difference in the world, especially with Mahomes. Here's the thing:

There are A LOT of Mahomes rookie autos on the market. You'll never have trouble tracking one down if all you want is a less than perfect condition Mahomes auto.

Now go try to find a reasonably priced PSA 10 or BGS 9.5 with a 10 auto of a significant card for a reasonable price. There cards rarely come up for auction, and are either being held for ransom at a high BIN price, or tucked away in a PC. It'll be more apparent as time goes on, but this is one of those 'happening before our eyes' type things.

Yeah I think the 'reasonable price' is the important part there. Anyone with a Flawless Patrick Mahomes RPA that is PSA 10/Auto 10 or something similar will know what they have and will never let it go for a reasonable price, probably because they know they can just hold onto it forever since Mahomes has basically already cemented his legacy (unless some kind of Watson-esque revelation comes out)

For everyone else, I think the opportunity may lie in raw cards from lesser sets or cards that aren't graded as well. Over time I can see those cards doing almost as well as the super out of reach grail cards.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Plummeted. Worth less that Kyler Murray now.


JK. Obviously since peak stuff is down, but XRC and Prizm PSA 10s are back over $4k. It also seems like less of his rare stuff is available for a reasonable price, especially in high grade. Either people are just holding for the off season, or a lot of the key stuff is really falling into PC's and long term holds.

How are the non-rare on-card rookie card autos doing (like Optic, and within the set, higher print-run parallels)?

I've always been tempted to pick one up but don't want to considering buying one until prices have stabilized.

[Stringmusic]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

How are the non-rare on-card rookie card autos doing (like Optic, and within the set, higher print-run parallels)?

I've always been tempted to pick one up but don't want to considering buying one until prices have stabilized.

One of the problems I’m seeing is even with non rare, higher print run cards is the plethora of streaky autos on most of them. Finding a Donruss Optic /150 auto without a streaky auto basically turns it back into a super rare card that will cost above market to own. This goes for Limited, Immaculate etc

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

How are the non-rare on-card rookie card autos doing (like Optic, and within the set, higher print-run parallels)?

I've always been tempted to pick one up but don't want to considering buying one until prices have stabilized.

Originally Posted by Stringmusic

One of the problems I’m seeing is even with non rare, higher print run cards is the plethora of streaky autos on most of them. Finding a Donruss Optic /150 auto without a streaky auto basically turns it back into a super rare card that will cost above market to own. This goes for Limited, Immaculate etc

This is a good observation...

It's hard to really track the market because there is so much variation even between even grades. I have to imagine that the market for a high grade/solid auto copy of these is pretty strong, but I don't have the proof. That being said, go search eBay for his 2017 Optic auto and try to find a high grade copy with a good auto. They aren't there.

[TheFrenzy]

How is my $40 Mahomes dimple-free Prizm RC doing these days?

[boxbuster7]

the parallels don't have the dimple, right? just the base rcs?

[jjrpilot]

Originally Posted by Stringmusic

One of the problems I’m seeing is even with non rare, higher print run cards is the plethora of streaky autos on most of them. Finding a Donruss Optic /150 auto without a streaky auto basically turns it back into a super rare card that will cost above market to own. This goes for Limited, Immaculate etc

What's nuts is that even on his 17' Flawless and NT, most of those autos aren't perfect either. Now that being said they'll still command a high price bc it's Flawless and NT.

For 17' Optic, I've seen most of the near perfect autos on the Holo /99. Everything else is streaky. By default it makes one believe that he signed the Holo's first.

We're really stuck between a rock and hard place with what to chase.

Do you search for perfect autos, but on non-perfect cards? Or do you search for perfect cards with non-perfect autos?

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by jjrpilot

What's nuts is that even on his 17' Flawless and NT, most of those autos aren't perfect either. Now that being said they'll still command a high price bc it's Flawless and NT.

For 17' Optic, I've seen most of the near perfect autos on the Holo /99. Everything else is streaky. By default it makes one believe that he signed the Holo's first.

We're really stuck between a rock and hard place with what to chase.

Do you search for perfect autos, but on non-perfect cards? Or do you search for perfect cards with non-perfect autos?

Perfect condition cards with perfect autos.

Gem Mint/Gem Mint 2017 Mahomes will be/are scarce.

[MallcopKJ]

I'm sure I'm too late to the party and i probably won't buy one but what's the consensus going price for a PSA 9 XRC at the moment?

[KardsC1]

Originally Posted by jjrpilot

What's nuts is that even on his 17' Flawless and NT, most of those autos aren't perfect either. Now that being said they'll still command a high price bc it's Flawless and NT.

For 17' Optic, I've seen most of the near perfect autos on the Holo /99. Everything else is streaky. By default it makes one believe that he signed the Holo's first.

We're really stuck between a rock and hard place with what to chase.

Do you search for perfect autos, but on non-perfect cards? Or do you search for perfect cards with non-perfect autos?

Glad my NT true /99 has a bold blue auto, but unfortunately my cracked ice is a bit streaky