Michael Jordan RC, PSA 10, shatters 100k !!! - Page 139

nepatsfan12dt · 04-04-2021, 09:23 AM

Imagine a year ago, if someone said people would be complaining because a jordan psa 10 rc sold for only $400-$500k and said the market isnt doing well.

dio · 04-04-2021, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nepatsfan12dt

Imagine a year ago, if someone said people would be complaining because a jordan psa 10 rc sold for only $400-$500k and said the market isnt doing well.

And someone say the hobby is dying.

nepatsfan12dt · 04-04-2021, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dio

And someone say the hobby is dying.

Exactly. They take like 5 cards with super high pop reports and expect everyone to just keep paying more and more. If they bought it for $30k over a year ago or whatever they were, they wouldn't complain about it selling for $500k.

noaskiecards · 04-04-2021, 02:17 PM

I see in early Feb a psa 8 was going 20k to 25k

They cooled a bit to 10k in the current market

Do we see it stabilizing at 10k or major movement?

Are most people buy in Feb wealthy so the drop in value isn't really a big deal? To spend 20k on a card, you prob have a lot of money I'd guess

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alphaomegas · 04-04-2021, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by noaskiecards

I see in early Feb a psa 8 was going 20k to 25k

They cooled a bit to 10k in the current market

Do we see it stabilizing at 10k or major movement?

Are most people buy in Feb wealthy so the drop in value isn't really a big deal? To spend 20k on a card, you prob have a lot of money I'd guess

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GOATcards · 04-04-2021, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by noaskiecards

Do we see it stabilizing at 10k or major movement?

I don't see major movement in either direction, but I think it'll come down a couple grand or so in the near term. The 8s were $3K before the pandemic lockdowns and I don't see them getting near that level again. And it'll be a while before they see $20-30K again, like a matter of several years probably. And when that happens they'll probably see a run-up to $60K first before dropping lol.

mragentm · 04-05-2021, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GOATcards

I don't see major movement in either direction, but I think it'll come down a couple grand or so in the near term. The 8s were $3K before the pandemic lockdowns and I don't see them getting near that level again. And it'll be a while before they see $20-30K again, like a matter of several years probably. And when that happens they'll probably see a run-up to $60K first before dropping lol.

What about the psa 9? it has also dropped from like 80-90k down to 30k. What a drop off but I am actually thinking of snagging one soon. I think the psa 9 can slowly climb back up to the 100k range if the psa 10 can touch $1 million.

thenwhatjk · 04-05-2021, 09:05 AM

I need to get this sold for my friend in the next week or so. We were pretty disappointed with the grade which I assume got nailed for the bleed on the back. In what manner would y’all recommend moving this, factoring in a. the market going in the wrong direction currently and b. that it presents really well for a 7.5 from the front

anderjam · 04-05-2021, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by thenwhatjk

I need to get this sold for my friend in the next week or so. We were pretty disappointed with the grade which I assume got nailed for the bleed on the back. In what manner would y’all recommend moving this, factoring in a. the market going in the wrong direction currently and b. that it presents really well for a 7.5 from the front

The bleed on the back hurts, but it’s also off-centered a pretty significant amount. I think your best bet for max dollar is to consign with PWCC or Probstein (there are other big players). Just more visibility. They’ll start the auction at .99 cents and let it ride. You could list on eBay and play the (best offer) game, but you’d be joining a pretty big crowd right now, could sit for weeks/months, and the card may continue downward trajectory in value. I would personally consign if certain you’d like to sell right now.

rainmaker · 04-05-2021, 09:12 PM

yeah consign that sucker with pwcc or probstein. its not the prettiest card I wouldn't expect a high hammer in the current market. if you don't need the $ it may make sense to sit on it and track the market. could be smart to sit on it a year or two (or more).

interestingcool · 04-05-2021, 10:15 PM

I think you guys are being harsh on that card. Too to bottom it’s damn near perfectly centered and to me the l/r is not bad. The bleeding hurts but personally it doesn’t bother me that much, as it’s a factory defect.

Springerj23 · 04-05-2021, 10:41 PM

I think it’s lucky to be a 7.5 to be honest. They aren’t real friendly with the half grades so you got lucky there. By looking at the provided pictures I would have been happy with a 6-7. Nice card and good luck. Consignment is your best bet for top dollar in my opinion.

MT5 · 04-06-2021, 06:02 PM

Any of you see this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Fleer-...p2047675.l2557

I was following it for a minute but kind of lost track. Didn't think it would go so high. Even with the pics, that's a lot to pay for an ungraded card.

kefskala · 04-06-2021, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MT5

Any of you see this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Fleer-...p2047675.l2557

I was following it for a minute but kind of lost track. Didn't think it would go so high. Even with the pics, that's a lot to pay for an ungraded card.

looks like a fake,,,in the arrow by the fleer symbol there should be small directional orange dots that are missing...

rueben21 · 04-06-2021, 06:47 PM

Curious what people think of this Jordan. Have had since 1988 and need to get it grade. Its a small bit off center, but curious on the print defect on the back and what that will do for the grade.

rueben21 · 04-06-2021, 06:53 PM

Sorry..pics here

EJKaufman · 04-07-2021, 12:28 AM

This was an absolute steal tonight:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-87-Fle...p2047675.l2557

This card is so rare. Pop 14 with 2 x 10 and 2 x 9.5 sub grades. Just .5 a point away from a BGS 10 Pristine pop 6 which is a $1m card easy. This card should be worth at least $200-250K easy. Can't believe it only went for $121,100! This is much rarer than a PSA 10 pop 14 vs pop 317.

Thirsty Whale · 04-07-2021, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by EJKaufman

This was an absolute steal tonight:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-87-Fle...p2047675.l2557

This card is so rare. Pop 14 with 2 x 10 and 2 x 9.5 sub grades. Just .5 a point away from a BGS 10 Pristine pop 6 which is a $1m card easy. This card should be worth at least $200-250K easy. Can't believe it only went for $121,100! This is much rarer than a PSA 10 pop 14 vs pop 317.

Nice one, congrats on winning it! I'm very happy for you finally finding a copy you like!

Bob Ross · 04-07-2021, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rueben21

Sorry..pics here

Tough to tell in the page sleeve. I'd most certainly take it out of there carefully and into a penny sleeve/top loader.

bberns · 04-07-2021, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by EJKaufman

This was an absolute steal tonight:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-87-Fle...p2047675.l2557

This card is so rare. Pop 14 with 2 x 10 and 2 x 9.5 sub grades. Just .5 a point away from a BGS 10 Pristine pop 6 which is a $1m card easy. This card should be worth at least $200-250K easy. Can't believe it only went for $121,100! This is much rarer than a PSA 10 pop 14 vs pop 317.

I agree. Incredible value.

rats60 · 04-07-2021, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by EJKaufman

This was an absolute steal tonight:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-87-Fle...p2047675.l2557

This card is so rare. Pop 14 with 2 x 10 and 2 x 9.5 sub grades. Just .5 a point away from a BGS 10 Pristine pop 6 which is a $1m card easy. This card should be worth at least $200-250K easy. Can't believe it only went for $121,100! This is much rarer than a PSA 10 pop 14 vs pop 317.

The problem is it didn't cross to a PSA 10. You know with those subs it has been tried if not multiple times. The people paying 200k+ for Jordan RCs only want PSA. They only care about the slab not the card. It also seems like the BGS cards are holding their value better.

rainmaker · 04-07-2021, 01:13 PM

Beckett slabs are a major drag on this card. Great feel good story like you posted about population and high grade etc. While it’s a good get for a collector it’s value in that case is crushed. Is PSA or nothing as far as resale/investment with #57. There’s no arguing this as it’s clear the market has spoken. And the gap will only widen in time.

r338 · 04-07-2021, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60

The problem is it didn't cross to a PSA 10. You know with those subs it has been tried if not multiple times. The people paying 200k+ for Jordan RCs only want PSA. They only care about the slab not the card. It also seems like the BGS cards are holding their value better.

That is a good point. When the difference between BGS 9.5 with great subs and PSA 10 is $121K versus $450K, someone tried unsuccessfully to cross already.

Thunderdunk · 04-07-2021, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rainmaker

Beckett slabs are a major drag on this card. Great feel good story like you posted about population and high grade etc. While it’s a good get for a collector it’s value in that case is crushed. Is PSA or nothing as far as resale/investment with #57. There’s no arguing this as it’s clear the market has spoken. And the gap will only widen in time.

I guess all of those million dollar sales for the Trout, Lebron, Brady, Kobe in BGS slabs are just worthless now. Hand them over, ill dispose of them. Such a drag. People blindly following companies is kind of comical. Yes PSA looks to have the market cornered for investing appetites, but that BGS 9.5 MJ #57, looks a lot better then a lot of PSA 10s.

Grading is political and always will be. Over the years, I have crossed BGS 9's to PSA 10's and PSA 9's to BGS 9.5's. Its all about timing and who is looking at it.

r338 · 04-07-2021, 01:29 PM

If the buyer of this beautiful BGS 9.5 cares at all about money, then he can try to cross to PSA 10 to quadruple his money.

04-04-2021, 09:23 AM	#3451
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04-05-2021, 09:05 AM	#3458
thenwhatjk Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Berrrrrrwyyyyn IL Posts: 9,074 thenwhatjk	I need to get this sold for my friend in the next week or so. We were pretty disappointed with the grade which I assume got nailed for the bleed on the back. In what manner would y’all recommend moving this, factoring in a. the market going in the wrong direction currently and b. that it presents really well for a 7.5 from the front __________________ White Sox. Oilers/Titans. Bears. Bulls.

04-05-2021, 09:12 PM	#3460
rainmaker Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 2,825 thewescoast	yeah consign that sucker with pwcc or probstein. its not the prettiest card I wouldn't expect a high hammer in the current market. if you don't need the $ it may make sense to sit on it and track the market. could be smart to sit on it a year or two (or more). __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/152850287@N08/albums

04-07-2021, 01:13 PM	#3472
rainmaker Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 2,825 thewescoast	Beckett slabs are a major drag on this card. Great feel good story like you posted about population and high grade etc. While it’s a good get for a collector it’s value in that case is crushed. Is PSA or nothing as far as resale/investment with #57. There’s no arguing this as it’s clear the market has spoken. And the gap will only widen in time. __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/152850287@N08/albums

04-04-2021, 02:17 PM	#3454
noaskiecards Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 1,145	I see in early Feb a psa 8 was going 20k to 25k They cooled a bit to 10k in the current market Do we see it stabilizing at 10k or major movement? Are most people buy in Feb wealthy so the drop in value isn't really a big deal? To spend 20k on a card, you prob have a lot of money I'd guess Sent from my SM-G970U1 using Tapatalk

04-05-2021, 10:15 PM	#3461
interestingcool Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 333	I think you guys are being harsh on that card. Too to bottom it’s damn near perfectly centered and to me the l/r is not bad. The bleeding hurts but personally it doesn’t bother me that much, as it’s a factory defect.

04-05-2021, 10:41 PM	#3462
Springerj23 Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Newburgh, IN Posts: 1,499	I think it’s lucky to be a 7.5 to be honest. They aren’t real friendly with the half grades so you got lucky there. By looking at the provided pictures I would have been happy with a 6-7. Nice card and good luck. Consignment is your best bet for top dollar in my opinion.

04-06-2021, 06:02 PM	#3463
MT5 Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 47	Any of you see this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Fleer-...p2047675.l2557 I was following it for a minute but kind of lost track. Didn't think it would go so high. Even with the pics, that's a lot to pay for an ungraded card.

04-06-2021, 06:47 PM	#3465
rueben21 Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 78	Curious what people think of this Jordan. Have had since 1988 and need to get it grade. Its a small bit off center, but curious on the print defect on the back and what that will do for the grade.

04-07-2021, 12:28 AM	#3467
EJKaufman Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 125 madelawyer	This was an absolute steal tonight: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-87-Fle...p2047675.l2557 This card is so rare. Pop 14 with 2 x 10 and 2 x 9.5 sub grades. Just .5 a point away from a BGS 10 Pristine pop 6 which is a $1m card easy. This card should be worth at least $200-250K easy. Can't believe it only went for $121,100! This is much rarer than a PSA 10 pop 14 vs pop 317.

04-07-2021, 01:29 PM	#3475
r338 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 397	If the buyer of this beautiful BGS 9.5 cares at all about money, then he can try to cross to PSA 10 to quadruple his money.