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Old 07-31-2016, 11:59 AM   #3426
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Old 07-31-2016, 12:01 PM   #3427
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What? Lmao. Where'd you learn that? Trump U?
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Old 07-31-2016, 12:02 PM   #3428
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What amazes me the most about this election is that Trump, with all his warts and scars, is able to stay competitive with Hillary.
The fact that it's still competitive speaks volumes to just how lousy the Democratic nominee is.
The fact that Trump so easily won their nomination shows the sorry state the GOP is in, much worse than in 2012, and that didn't go so well either, 'member?

By the way, 10 post youngster, I think you're supposed to at least pretend to like trading cards for a while before you saunter over here. If I was one of our more paranoid members, I'd accuse you of PBM-ism. Just to be safe, maybe go hang out in the Basketball Forum for a while. I hear it's amazing.

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Old 07-31-2016, 12:04 PM   #3430
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What amazes me the most about this election is that Trump, with all his warts and scars, is able to stay competitive with Hillary.
The fact that it's still competitive speaks volumes to just how lousy the Democratic nominee is.

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It has nothing to do with trump being great. Rep can put you in the ballet and you still going to get millions of votes even if you don't talk. People vote for their parties and each party have enough "fan" base.

Check the independent voters. Hillary are in lead, and it is not even close.
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Old 07-31-2016, 12:08 PM   #3431
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Haha, well you can see why any Hillary hater wouldn't want anyone quoting Trump. I'll even sum up our position on that for you using some of Trump's most famous quotes:

"Will be."
"A lot."
"Believe me."

Nice try.
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Old 07-31-2016, 12:11 PM   #3432
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The fact that Trump so easily won their nomination shows the sorry state the GOP is in, much worse than in 2012, and that didn't go so well either, 'member?

By the way, 10 post youngster, I think you're supposed to at least pretend to like trading cards for a while before you saunter over here. If I was one of our more paranoid members, I'd accuse you of PBM-ism. Just to be safe, maybe go hang out in the Basketball Forum for a while. I hear it's amazing.

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Sorry state versus scandalous state.
While I'm admittedly not very proud of my party, at least I'm honest enough to recognize it's faults, something dems cannot, scratch that, refuse to admit.
As far as my post total, should I be forwarding my posts to you for approval before anyone else can see them?
How DNC of you.

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Old 07-31-2016, 12:11 PM   #3433
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They will just have a few more kids to bump up the monthly income.
I don't think anyone knows more about all of these benefits that are available than you.
What can it mean?
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Old 07-31-2016, 12:14 PM   #3434
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I don't think anyone knows more about all of these benefits that are available than you.
What can it mean?
More money taken out of responsible people's paychecks.

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Old 07-31-2016, 12:21 PM   #3435
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You are trying to argue with a couple of radical liberal hippies that are still trying to get over their last shroom trip. One from Cali and the other from the Alaska wilderness. Have you not noticed that the other Hillary supporters have shied away from joining in on their arguments?
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Old 07-31-2016, 12:23 PM   #3436
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Sorry state versus scandalous state.
While I'm admittedly not very proud of my party, at least I'm honest enough to recognize it's faults, something dems cannot, scratch that, refuse to admit.
As far as my post total, should I be forwarding my posts to you for approval before anyone else can see them?
How DNC of you.
No, I was joking about that and you couldn't tell. How RNC of you.
That's exactly what Trump did to them, and he now defines you. He was looking to up the ratings of his TV show, and somehow got the nod. I wouldn't like that either.

To be clear, I'm not voting against Trump. I'm voting for Hillary.
Plenty of her supporters say that. Her convention was filled with people willing to say so, and anyone asked to attend and speak did so, and spoke their conscience. The Bernie supporters closer to Liberal than Anarchist will fall in line, too. The others probably wouldn't have voted anyway. The DNC backed the winner, but had Bernie won the nomination, I still would have have been able to say, I'm voting for Bernie, not against Trump.

This is the difference in this election.

How many like you can say the following:
"I'm not voting against Hillary. I'm voting for Trump."
Not many. Look at all the no-shows at Trump's convention, and some who did speak couldn't even bring themselves to say his name.
When the time comes, many, many Conservatives of conscience won't be able to pull the Trump lever even as they vote for their other candidates down the ticket.

Both sides have flaws. The GOP flaws, however, have allowed a totally unqualified person to ascend to the top of the ticket. Time to pay the piper on that, and to find a new way forward for 2020.
Good luck.
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Old 07-31-2016, 12:27 PM   #3437
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One from Cali and the other from the Alaska wilderness. Have you not noticed that the other Hillary supporters have shied away from joining in on their arguments?
There aren't many others here to join in, Jarrod, and what more is there to say anyway? Our opponent has been disarmed. This very well sums up what they have left:

"You are trying to argue with a couple of radical liberal hippies that are still trying to get over their last shroom trip."

Pathetic.
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Old 07-31-2016, 12:31 PM   #3439
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Talk to Cruiserdaddy7 about what he's doing with your money. I'm not on the dole.

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Old 07-31-2016, 12:38 PM   #3440
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No, I was joking about that and you couldn't tell. How RNC of you.
That's exactly what Trump did to them, and he now defines you. He was looking to up the ratings of his TV show, and somehow got the nod. I wouldn't like that either.

To be clear, I'm not voting against Trump. I'm voting for Hillary.
Plenty of her supporters say that. Her convention was filled with people willing to say so, and anyone asked to attend and speak did so, and spoke their conscience. The Bernie supporters closer to Liberal than Anarchist will fall in line, too. The others probably wouldn't have voted anyway. The DNC backed the winner, but had Bernie won the nomination, I still would have have been able to say, I'm voting for Bernie, not against Trump.

This is the difference in this election.

How many like you can say the following:
"I'm not voting against Hillary. I'm voting for Trump."
Not many. Look at all the no-shows at Trump's convention, and some who did speak couldn't even bring themselves to say his name.
When the time comes, many, many Conservatives of conscience won't be able to pull the Trump lever even as they vote for their other candidates down the ticket.

Both sides have flaws. The GOP flaws, however, have allowed a totally unqualified person to ascend to the top of the ticket. Time to pay the piper on that, and to find a new way forward for 2020.
Good luck.
Seriously, "her convention was filled with people blah, blah, blah"....
Did you see the empty seats?
Hell one of their biggest states, loony left California, was empty.
As far as Trump being unqualified, I'll take my chances on that before the candidate that should be disqualified.
For the record, I am not in the bag for Trump.
There were other Republicans I would have rather seen.
Truth is I've always felt he was a pompous, egotistical ass.
And its, really quite sad when one feels that way but would still choose that person over their opponent.
That speaks volumes about Hillary in itself.
I haven't made up my mind who I'm voting for, but I've definitely made up my mind who I'm not voting for.

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Old 07-31-2016, 12:55 PM   #3441
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I voted twice for Obama. Have no issues admitting it, but no way in hell I vote for Clinton. Even my parents voted for Obama twice and they won't vote for Clinton. I know a lot of people that feel the same. If she wasn't a former First Lady, she'd be in a load of #@#@#@#@ right now.




Trump prevails over Clinton in convention speech ratings race - Jul. 29, 2016

Final convention numbers in from Nielsen Media Ratings!!

Trump- 32.2 Million viewers

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170 million users reached on Facebook. Unprecedented.

Trump Prevails!!!

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Seriously, "her convention was filled with people blah, blah, blah"....
Did you see the empty seats?
Hell one of their biggest states, loony left California, was empty.
As far as Trump being unqualified, I'll take my chances on that before the candidate that should be disqualified.
For the record, I am not in the bag for Trump.
There were other Republicans I would have rather seen.
Truth is I've always felt he was a pompous, egotistical ass.
And its, really quite sad when one feels that way but would still choose that person over their opponent.
That speaks volumes about Hillary in itself.
I haven't made up my mind who I'm voting for, but I've definitely made up my mind who I'm not voting for.

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What speaks volumes for Hillary is Michele and Barack Obama vouching for her as a person and leader. I'll take their word any day in regards to her qualifications. Trump is a thin skinned pansy. How anyone could even consider voting for him is pretty scary. He knows nothing about foreign affairs, heck today he said Russia will not go in to Ukraine, lol. They already are in Ukraine. He jokes about Russians committing espionage in America to attack his political opponent. I mean the dude is clearly the least prepared candidate to lead this great nation in the history of America. There is a reason he might be the first Republican candidate in 60 years to lose the white college educated vote. Smart people aren't buying what he's selling. They can see just how unprepared he is. It's very scary that there are this many people in America that could believe a wannabe dictator like Comrade Trump.
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Trump prevails over Clinton in convention speech ratings race - Jul. 29, 2016

Final convention numbers in from Nielsen Media Ratings!!

Trump- 32.2 Million viewers

Killary- 27.8 Million

170 million users reached on Facebook. Unprecedented.

Trump Prevails!!!

Looking forward to the debates!!
Yeah, you're the same dude who was creaming his jeans the other day over Trump hitting 10 million on Facebook to Hillary's 5 million, but I just read Vin Diesel just passed 100 million. By your "logic", we should just install Vin Diesel as Emperor, but then, I wouldn't want to give you any ideas.

Also looking forward to the debates, as they are the only thing on your list that means a thing.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:04 PM   #3444
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Trump prevails over Clinton in convention speech ratings race - Jul. 29, 2016

Final convention numbers in from Nielsen Media Ratings!!

Trump- 32.2 Million viewers

Killary- 27.8 Million

170 million users reached on Facebook. Unprecedented.

Trump Prevails!!!

Looking forward to the debates!!
This comes as no surprise as most people watched not because they were Trump backers but more so to see just how far he would go with his narcissism.

He did not disappoint, pure clown show! LMFAO
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What can it mean?
It can mean that I read up on things. It means my wife sees the indigent population at the medical facility where she is employed.

You see, they discuss it openly and boast about it. There is no shame at all.

I pay my taxes and I'm not happy where that money goes in most cases.
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Yeah, you're the same dude who was creaming his jeans the other day over Trump hitting 10 million on Facebook to Hillary's 5 million, but I just read Vin Diesel just passed 100 million. By your "logic", we should just install Vin Diesel as Emperor, but then, I wouldn't want to give you any ideas.

Also looking forward to the debates, as they are the only thing on your list that means a thing.
I just felt like mocking a couple of posters on here. Too bad you couldn't see that.
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What speaks volumes for Hillary is Michele and Barack Obama vouching for her as a person and leader. I'll take their word any day in regards to her qualifications. Trump is a thin skinned pansy. How anyone could even consider voting for him is pretty scary. He knows nothing about foreign affairs, heck today he said Russia will not go in to Ukraine, lol. They already are in Ukraine. He jokes about Russians committing espionage in America to attack his political opponent. I mean the dude is clearly the least prepared candidate to lead this great nation in the history of America. There is a reason he might be the first Republican candidate in 60 years to lose the white college educated vote. Smart people aren't buying what he's selling. They can see just how unprepared he is. It's very scary that there are this many people in America that could believe a wannabe dictator like Comrade Trump.
Funny how Barry and Michelle's opinions took a 180 from 2008.
Could it be a matter of party over principles?
Of course that's going by the assumption one has principles.
As far as foreign policy, do you seriously believe things are better now than they were 8 years ago?
If so, then there is really no reason to continue this discussion with you.
Talk about rose colored glasses.

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Trump prevails over Clinton in convention speech ratings race - Jul. 29, 2016

Final convention numbers in from Nielsen Media Ratings!!

Trump- 32.2 Million viewers

Killary- 27.8 Million

170 million users reached on Facebook. Unprecedented.

Trump Prevails!!!

Looking forward to the debates!!
Love the logic. Totally misguided, but still awesome.

People slow down for car crashes, for the same reason that Trump is good tv. He's a train wreck blowhard who speaks directly to mental halfwits.

"What's he going to say this time?"

If anyone can somehow draw viewership numbers and assume those are votes...well...you should get a coloring book and focus on staying in between the lines.
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Seriously, "her convention was filled with people blah, blah, blah"....
Did you see the empty seats?
Hell one of their biggest states, loony left California, was empty.
As far as Trump being unqualified, I'll take my chances on that before the candidate that should be disqualified.
For the record, I am not in the bag for Trump.
There were other Republicans I would have rather seen.
Truth is I've always felt he was a pompous, egotistical ass.
And its, really quite sad when one feels that way but would still choose that person over their opponent.
That speaks volumes about Hillary in itself.
I haven't made up my mind who I'm voting for, but I've definitely made up my mind who I'm not voting for.
Hillary or Bernie would have beaten any of the 17 GOP candidates this year in the general election, and either would make a better President than any of those Republicans.

That the 16 also-rans couldn't even beat Trump says it all about them. It was simply the worst GOP field in history. The "winner" of it is the proof. By the way, were Trump at the top of my party's ticket, I'd avoid the use of the words "loony" and "blah" entirely.

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