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Old 02-12-2024, 11:07 PM   #34226
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I also recently nabbed an El Dorado out of 2023 Gold Standard to go with my 2022 Gold Dust.
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Old 02-13-2024, 01:26 AM   #34227
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Might want to consider the 2017 Contenders #303, Contenders Optic #103, or Optic #177. All three are on card w/ his original "Patel Mel" auto. But if you're capping yourself off at ~$4kish, then maybe try for a PSA 7/BGS 8 w/ a clean 10 auto. If going the RPA route, you might consider a mid-grade version of the Limited /149 #136 or the Vertex /99 #104. Now isn't a great time to buy, but there will be some potential bargains later in the NFL off season, especially at auction on Goldin, PWCC, Heritage, Alt, etc.
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Old 02-13-2024, 11:19 AM   #34228
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2023 Gold Dust/24

I also recently nabbed an El Dorado out of 2023 Gold Standard to go with my 2022 Gold Dust.
Oh man nice! I probably bid you up a bit on that Gold Dust because I wanted it too! Great pickups.
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Old 02-13-2024, 11:22 AM   #34229
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I'm enjoying this SB but I already want to start thinking about what next year looks like...

Rice looks like a solid #2, could be #1 WR... who else could they add in FA? Maybe give Michael Pittman a chance to be a true #1?

Feels like they need just 1 true #1/#2 WR (and not even a top guy) and Rice taking the year 2 WR leap to open up the offense again.

I'd love for them to figure out a way to get Adam Thielen as the #3 somehow.

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Old 02-13-2024, 11:31 AM   #34230
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I'm enjoying this SB but I already want to start thinking about what next year looks like...

Rice looks like a solid #2, could be #1 WR... who else could they add in FA? Maybe give Michael Pittman a chance to be a true #1?

Feels like they need just 1 true #1/#2 WR (and not even a top guy) and Rice taking the year 2 WR leap to open up the offense again.

I'd love for them to figure out a way to get Adam Thielen as the #3 somehow.
I'm okay with them running it back after finding a replacement for MVS, but priority #1 is not letting Chris Jones leave the building. He needs a 3 year $87M deal.
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Old 02-13-2024, 11:54 AM   #34231
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Bring back Hardman on a cheap 1 year deal as the MVS replacement? Then look for additional help of course.
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Old 02-13-2024, 12:14 PM   #34232
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Here's the deal.

For all you wanting to get a Mahomes...go for autos. Period.

Early autos/rookie autos are the best...but autos in general.

He hasn't signed any cards since 2020, and now at this point with 3 SB rings, I doubt he cares if he signs anymore.

Any autos after 2020 are aftermarket and I would stay away.
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Old 02-13-2024, 12:38 PM   #34233
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I'm enjoying this SB but I already want to start thinking about what next year looks like...

Rice looks like a solid #2, could be #1 WR... who else could they add in FA? Maybe give Michael Pittman a chance to be a true #1?

Feels like they need just 1 true #1/#2 WR (and not even a top guy) and Rice taking the year 2 WR leap to open up the offense again.

I'd love for them to figure out a way to get Adam Thielen as the #3 somehow.
As much as I like Pittman, I think he will cost way too much for the Chiefs. I think they will look for short term free agents and add another WR in the draft. They just won the last two Super Bowls with this formula at WR, so I don't see them changing anything.
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Old 02-13-2024, 12:45 PM   #34234
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Here's the deal.

For all you wanting to get a Mahomes...go for autos. Period.

Early autos/rookie autos are the best...but autos in general.

He hasn't signed any cards since 2020, and now at this point with 3 SB rings, I doubt he cares if he signs anymore.

Any autos after 2020 are aftermarket and I would stay away.
Is the "Patel Mel" or the lazy "P swoop" auto more valuable?
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Old 02-13-2024, 12:57 PM   #34235
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As much as I like Pittman, I think he will cost way too much for the Chiefs. I think they will look for short term free agents and add another WR in the draft. They just won the last two Super Bowls with this formula at WR, so I don't see them changing anything.
Yeah I didn't realize Pittman will probably be the #1 free agent WR this offseason. Thought he'd go under the radar.
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Old 02-13-2024, 01:04 PM   #34236
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Is the "Patel Mel" or the lazy "P swoop" auto more valuable?
Patel Mel is his rookie sig, so that will always be a bit more special than the P swoosh swoosh.


BUUUUUT, getting either one, especially on card will be something that would be good to own.

He just doesn't sign cards anymore other than after-market stuff...

I don't care for the aftermarket swoosh swoosh autos on his rookie card thought, bc it sticks out like soar thumb. A non rookie auto on a rookie card????? HARD pass.
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He just doesn't sign cards anymore other than after-market stuff...

I don't care for the aftermarket swoosh swoosh autos on his rookie card thought, bc it sticks out like soar thumb. A non rookie auto on a rookie card????? HARD pass.
I don't care for aftermarket stuff period, but I agree the swoosh stuff on RCs makes it even worse.
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Old 02-13-2024, 02:00 PM   #34238
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I don't care for aftermarket stuff period, but I agree the swoosh stuff on RCs makes it even worse.
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Old 02-13-2024, 02:20 PM   #34239
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Here's the deal.

For all you wanting to get a Mahomes...go for autos. Period.

Early autos/rookie autos are the best...but autos in general.

He hasn't signed any cards since 2020, and now at this point with 3 SB rings, I doubt he cares if he signs anymore.

Any autos after 2020 are aftermarket and I would stay away.
I am sentimental about a lot of the early year #ed/SSP cards I'm holding, but if I were to consolidate I'd go for nothing but certified autos as you say.

The early autos are a lock to be desirable and scarce.

That said, he's got to be after only Jordan on Fanatics' wishlist so I wouldn't count on certified stuff not coming back. The old sig, however, won't be coming back.
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Old 02-13-2024, 02:28 PM   #34240
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I'm going to make an assumption here and if it's not accurate in your case, I hope the suggestion helps someone else out.

I'm assuming you also have one of those Epson Perfection v600 scanners that are incredibly reliable, but also have a bad habit of cutting off 1/4 - 1/2 inches around the edges of the scanning area?

If so, my personal workaround to ensure crisp, square scans is to use skinny Legos (1x4's or longer) to make an appropriately-sized "L" that sits in the corner of the scanner and ensures that my cards are square and never cut off.
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I'm going to make an assumption here and if it's not accurate in your case, I hope the suggestion helps someone else out.

I'm assuming you also have one of those Epson Perfection v600 scanners that are incredibly reliable, but also have a bad habit of cutting off 1/4 - 1/2 inches around the edges of the scanning area?

If so, my personal workaround to ensure crisp, square scans is to use skinny Legos (1x4's or longer) to make an appropriately-sized "L" that sits in the corner of the scanner and ensures that my cards are square and never cut off.
I have that scanner and use some cardboard in the corner.
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Old 02-13-2024, 02:35 PM   #34242
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Oh man nice! I probably bid you up a bit on that Gold Dust because I wanted it too! Great pickups.
Ha! No worries man, I'm sure another one will pop up soon. This is only the 3rd I have seen out of 2023.

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I'm going to make an assumption here and if it's not accurate in your case, I hope the suggestion helps someone else out.

I'm assuming you also have one of those Epson Perfection v600 scanners that are incredibly reliable, but also have a bad habit of cutting off 1/4 - 1/2 inches around the edges of the scanning area?

If so, my personal workaround to ensure crisp, square scans is to use skinny Legos (1x4's or longer) to make an appropriately-sized "L" that sits in the corner of the scanner and ensures that my cards are square and never cut off.
I do have an Epson but it is an ET-3750, not the best for scanning cards. I will certainly take that advice about the Legos though, I know mine are stashed somewhere lol.
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Old 02-13-2024, 02:36 PM   #34243
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Here's the deal.

For all you wanting to get a Mahomes...go for autos. Period.

Early autos/rookie autos are the best...but autos in general.

He hasn't signed any cards since 2020, and now at this point with 3 SB rings, I doubt he cares if he signs anymore.

Any autos after 2020 are aftermarket and I would stay away.
This is good advice! Mahomes autographs on cards are going to be as rare and limited as Brady autograph cards became late in his career. Ultimately, his autos will just be too expensive for the card companies to pay, and as mentioned above, Patty may not even care to sign anymore.
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Old 02-13-2024, 02:37 PM   #34244
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I'm okay with them running it back after finding a replacement for MVS, but priority #1 is not letting Chris Jones leave the building. He needs a 3 year $87M deal.
I'd be shocked if Jones is back. Someone will offer him over 30 million (Texans is my bet)...and I don't think the Chiefs will up there offer from last year .Sneed is a bigger worry . might become the highest paid CB and only 25-26....pay him and rebuild the rest. We will probably have to find cheap pieces like last off-season when we got great cheap signings (Tranquil, Edwards, Omenihu)...Gay probably leaves..Move Creed to G cuz his snaps are awful....Lots to be done and this was all over the place but id be really really suprised if Jones is back. When ur QB is paid alot u can't have alot of the highest paid at other positions ...especially guys in their 30s.
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I'd be shocked if Jones is back. Someone will offer him over 30 million (Texans is my bet)...and I don't think the Chiefs will up there offer from last year .Sneed is a bigger worry . might become the highest paid CB and only 25-26....pay him and rebuild the rest. We will probably have to find cheap pieces like last off-season when we got great cheap signings (Tranquil, Edwards, Omenihu)...Gay probably leaves..Move Creed to G cuz his snaps are awful....Lots to be done and this was all over the place but id be really really suprised if Jones is back. When ur QB is paid alot u can't have alot of the highest paid at other positions ...especially guys in their 30s.
At this point: In Veech I trust.

No sense in me playing GM. What this guy is doing works. The Tyreek trade has worked to be an absolute masterclass in roster reconstruction.
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At this point: In Veech I trust.

No sense in me playing GM. What this guy is doing works. The Tyreek trade has worked to be an absolute masterclass in roster reconstruction.
agreed ..he had totally earned trust. Tyreek trade could end up like the modern day Hershal Walker trade. Also I wouldn't be shocked if they end up trading Sneed. His value would never be higher...hope they keep him...but as long as we have 15 we got a chance .
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MVS and Hardman absolutely must go. I'll forever be grateful to their contributions this year in the playoffs, but when your major deep threat goes for 21 catches for 315 yards and 1 TD in the entire season he's gone. Hardman caught the most important pass of the year, but also almost lost us the season by fumbling at the 1. Again, grateful, he's a Chiefs semi-legend with 3 rings, but he's gone. Give up on Sky Moore now.

Keep Rashee and I guess Justin Watson because he's good for 1 catch a game for 23 yards and his catches seem timely. Then start over. They absolutely need to get a WR1 somewhere. They need to get Patty whatever he wants that they can afford after what he did for the team this year. He is absolutely not going to put up with the trash core he had this year.

Would love to see Chris Jones stay a play for his legacy, but after the way the Chiefs treated him this year he's absolutely gone. He'll get paid somewhere and we'll never hear from him again on some non-playoff team.
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So they said 125 million people watched the game - I wonder if that number is just in united states or includes other countries
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I'd be shocked if Jones is back. Someone will offer him over 30 million (Texans is my bet)...and I don't think the Chiefs will up there offer from last year .Sneed is a bigger worry . might become the highest paid CB and only 25-26....pay him and rebuild the rest. We will probably have to find cheap pieces like last off-season when we got great cheap signings (Tranquil, Edwards, Omenihu)...Gay probably leaves..Move Creed to G cuz his snaps are awful....Lots to be done and this was all over the place but id be really really suprised if Jones is back. When ur QB is paid alot u can't have alot of the highest paid at other positions ...especially guys in their 30s.
This is one of those things where if I'm Pat, I want THAT guy in the locker room. It's a $10M difference to make up. Restructure and keep CJ in Kansas City.

I trust Veach to solve the problem if that doesn't transpire but as a teammate, there is no way I'm letting the heart and soul of the D walk out over $10M/year knowing KC can make it up on the backend for Pat.
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MVS and Hardman absolutely must go. I'll forever be grateful to their contributions this year in the playoffs, but when your major deep threat goes for 21 catches for 315 yards and 1 TD in the entire season he's gone. Hardman caught the most important pass of the year, but also almost lost us the season by fumbling at the 1. Again, grateful, he's a Chiefs semi-legend with 3 rings, but he's gone. Give up on Sky Moore now.

Keep Rashee and I guess Justin Watson because he's good for 1 catch a game for 23 yards and his catches seem timely. Then start over. They absolutely need to get a WR1 somewhere. They need to get Patty whatever he wants that they can afford after what he did for the team this year. He is absolutely not going to put up with the trash core he had this year.

Would love to see Chris Jones stay a play for his legacy, but after the way the Chiefs treated him this year he's absolutely gone. He'll get paid somewhere and we'll never hear from him again on some non-playoff team.
MVS is out. I'm okay if they can keep Hardman if they are able to sign him for $1-$1.5M a year. Jet sweeps are probably making a comeback next year and that's where he excelled. Nice gadget guy. Might break out and have a 100 yard game once a year.
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