LeBron Exquisite /99 - altered & damaged

[AlabamaSlamma]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Yeah they are not the same, thought that was known. Just showing the backs of the cards for reference.

Understood and appreciated. My simple mind jumped the gun on the comparison (even though I was the one who posted the WP link). Amateur hour.

[DajuanWagner]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer

No one is that jealous of cardboard cards to go on witch hunts. Most of the people in this thread just hate the fact that there is a group of high-end collectors that are doing shady things for profit and that many collectors knew about these stories or may have been involved but were afraid to even come out and mention it b/c they wouldn't get the cards they want or they had interactions. In that way, they can be considered an "accomplice" if they knew about any of those shady dealings and actions. When BNC is involved with the majority of these trimmed cards, it's not wise to continue promoting him or say he is a nice guy or use his holder, etc. Just not a smart thing to deal.

Also the supposed "shaming" of longtime members may come from the fact that they have seen a lot of the evidence here and continue to promote BNC using holders or by being silent and not answering questions about certain cards and just continuing to say that BNC is a good guy just based on interactions with him. That is why the "shaming" occurs. They seem to watch each other's back because they are all involved and run in the same circles.

^^^^^^^Absolutely this!!!!!!


Just because someone is your "friend", should you continue to keep the lovefest going, OR, should you look at the bigger picture and break up with him??? If you really care about the hobby, distance yourselves from the Trim Shady and all those who are near and dear to him that have concealed information or continue to B/S/T with him or others who are "dirty". When you break up with a girl, do you still go out or do you distance yourselves? I know it hurts to break up and leave your friend, but aren't morals more important than cardboard??????

[the27guy]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Yeah they are not the same, thought that was known. Just showing the backs of the cards for reference.

My bad. Should have read it all and looked at the fronts first. Sorry!

[Deadshot]

Originally Posted by DajuanWagner

^^^^^^^Absolutely this!!!!!!
Just because someone is your "friend", should you continue to keep the lovefest going, OR, should you look at the bigger picture and break up with him??? If you really care about the hobby, distance yourselves from the Trim Shady and all those who are near and dear to him that have concealed information or continue to B/S/T with him or others who are "dirty". When you break up with a girl, do you still go out or do you distance yourselves? I know it hurts to break up and leave your friend, but aren't morals more important than cardboard??????

Those people obviously aren't going to jump into the thread now. Have you contacted any of them in private?

As far as Exquisite goes, I'd be interested to talk to someone who broke a lot of the product personally (maybe Blowout even has a breaker that broke for the site at the time). I've noticed a fair amount of cards that have this slant and it always seems to angle in the same direction. Could this have been a factory error of some sort? I thought the LeBron Limited Logos 11/50 had quite a slant but the edge damaged matched up on each copy I found.

[DajuanWagner]

Originally Posted by Deadshot

Those people obviously aren't going to jump into the thread now. Have you contacted any of them in private?

As far as Exquisite goes, I'd be interested to talk to someone who broke a lot of the product personally (maybe Blowout even has a breaker that broke for the site at the time). I've noticed a fair amount of cards that have this slant and it always seems to angle in the same direction. Could this have been a factory error of some sort? I thought the LeBron Limited Logos 11/50 had quite a slant but the edge damaged matched up on each copy I found.

No, I haven't sent anything private to them. I was hoping they would go public. Adam is the closest thing to public that we probably ever going to get. Everyone else is just going into hiding.


Attyball was the biggest breaker of Exquisite. Not sure if he is still in jail or not, but he popped Logomen and acted like it was a base card...…..

[AbraCalabro]

Hey guys, real quick. This is about the Epic Signatures Gold Jordan Autograph that was brought up earlier in this thread.

The card that is not in BNC's possession shows up in this video, at approximately 10 minutes 40 seconds in. 7/23 BNC's copy looks suspicious in that the ink and signature seem to vary greatly, but I am not a pro on Jordan's signature, maybe this will help out those who are. This is before it was graded, if I remember correctly, the card is now graded.

[Deadshot]

Nice find, abra

[ljandkg]

Originally Posted by AbraCalabro

Hey guys, real quick. This is about the Epic Signatures Gold Jordan Autograph that was brought up earlier in this thread.

The card that is not in BNC's possession shows up in this video, at approximately 10 minutes 40 seconds in. 7/23 BNC's copy looks suspicious in that the ink and signature seem to vary greatly, but I am not a pro on Jordan's signature, maybe this will help out those who are. This is before it was graded, if I remember correctly, the card is now graded.

Ahhh the pan flute, just what this thread needed.

[ThoseBackPages]

that is a nice album of money

[Jasondr91]

Originally Posted by ljandkg

Ahhh the pan flute, just what this thread needed.

Yes indeed. I can just see Asia Carrera sun bathing in the desert sun during this fantastic eargasm of a song. Straight 1991 here.....

Gheorghe Zamfir in the house........

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by Jasondr91

Yes indeed. I can just see Asia Carrera sun bathing in the desert sun during this fantastic eargasm of a song. Straight 1991 here.....

Gheorghe Zamfir in the house........

Asia Carrera reference? 2 internets awarded to you, good sir.

Time to dust off those vhs tapes I stole from my dad's closet.

[ljandkg]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Asia Carrera reference? 2 internets awarded to you, good sir.

Time to dust off those vhs tapes I stole from my dad's closet.

If my dusty memory serves me correct, Asia Carrera - a special kind of actress?

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by ljandkg

If my dusty memory serves me correct, Asia Carrera - a special kind of actress?

She sucked as an actress.










Oh wait.

[the27guy]

Originally Posted by AbraCalabro

Hey guys, real quick. This is about the Epic Signatures Gold Jordan Autograph that was brought up earlier in this thread.

The card that is not in BNC's possession shows up in this video, at approximately 10 minutes 40 seconds in. 7/23 BNC's copy looks suspicious in that the ink and signature seem to vary greatly, but I am not a pro on Jordan's signature, maybe this will help out those who are. This is before it was graded, if I remember correctly, the card is now graded.

That's the best binder of basektball cards that I've ever seen and it's not close.

[Deadshot]

Originally Posted by the27guy

That's the best binder of basektball cards that I've ever seen and it's not close.

Need I remind you of the Topps Total binder I showed you that was ALL Pacers base?

[ozantoine]

When will people realize that just because you’ve met someone in person at some shows, spoke to them on the phone, gone out to dinner or been chatting to them on Instagram for 6 months doesn’t mean you know someone’s character.

Fraudsters, scammers, con men are usually well dressed, well spoken, educated and sociable people that’s why they are good at what they do. People live with them for years without even knowing their background or intentions. They certainly don’t all have face tattoos and horns coming out their head.

The evidence is undeniable.


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[cypher]

Originally Posted by ozantoine

When will people realize that just because you’ve met someone in person at some shows, spoke to them on the phone, gone out to dinner or been chatting to them on Instagram for 6 months doesn’t mean you know someone’s character.

Fraudsters, scammers, con men are usually well dressed, well spoken, educated and sociable people that’s why they are good at what they do. People live with them for years without even knowing their background or intentions. They certainly don’t all have face tattoos and horns coming out their head.

The evidence is undeniable.


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The best scammers are extremely sociable. They need this ability to bring in clients/investors.

[Jasondr91]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Asia Carrera reference? 2 internets awarded to you, good sir.

Time to dust off those vhs tapes I stole from my dad's closet.

Was waiting to see who comments, or admits to knowing of Asia. So I have two other dirtbags in here with me.......

[Jasondr91]

Originally Posted by ozantoine

When will people realize that just because you’ve met someone in person at some shows, spoke to them on the phone, gone out to dinner or been chatting to them on Instagram for 6 months doesn’t mean you know someone’s character.

Fraudsters, scammers, con men are usually well dressed, well spoken, educated and sociable people that’s why they are good at what they do. People live with them for years without even knowing their background or intentions. They certainly don’t all have face tattoos and horns coming out their head.

The evidence is undeniable.


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Sadly a lot of truth in this post.

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Asia Carrera reference? 2 internets awarded to you, good sir.

Time to dust off those vhs tapes I stole from my dad's closet.

Give me Jenna Jameson anyday over Asia, lol.

[Jasondr91]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer

Give me Jenna Jameson anyday over Asia, lol.

In the 90s, absolutely. In 2019 Asia is a late 40+ something college grad, Jenna has more plastic than a Pez factory, and looks awful. She was everybody's favorite.....

[the27guy]

Originally Posted by Deadshot

Need I remind you of the Topps Total binder I showed you that was ALL Pacers base?

Those..... are priceless.

[Deadshot]

Originally Posted by ebitz

Here is my best attempt to answer as many questions as I can to satisfy as many of you as I possibly can. If I did not answer a question you have other ones please feel free to message me directly through here or my website and I’m happy to put in as much time as is required with as many people as I have to via phone. I will not be coming back and posting more and answering more questions on this thread.

Those of you that have talked to BNC on the phone already, how did you get that number? PLEASE DO NOT POST IT HERE - I'm not trying to throw someone's personal information out in the open.

A lot of us still have questions. My hope was that these would be answered in some of interview - that's part of why I compiled a list. Like many of you, I wasn't surprised when this didn't happen. My list still serves a purpose.

How many of you would be willing to call BNC with this list of questions and go through them with him one on one? He told us here that he's willing to talk to as many of us as needed.

[gomiamigo]

Originally Posted by Jasondr91

Was waiting to see who comments, or admits to knowing of Asia. So I have two other dirtbags in here with me.......

I always preferred Kobe, tbh.

[Deadshot]

Originally Posted by ebitz

Here is my best attempt to answer as many questions as I can to satisfy as many of you as I possibly can. If I did not answer a question you have other ones please feel free to message me directly through here or my website and I’m happy to put in as much time as is required with as many people as I have to via phone. I will not be coming back and posting more and answering more questions on this thread.

Originally Posted by Deadshot

Those of you that have talked to BNC on the phone already, how did you get that number? PLEASE DO NOT POST IT HERE - I'm not trying to throw someone's personal information out in the open.

A lot of us still have questions. My hope was that these would be answered in some of interview - that's part of why I compiled a list. Like many of you, I wasn't surprised when this didn't happen. My list still serves a purpose.

How many of you would be willing to call BNC with this list of questions and go through them with him one on one? He told us here that he's willing to talk to as many of us as needed.

Still looking for volunteers. Anyone interested in coming out from behind the keyboard?