2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

You're misinterpreting my perspective that I think Dems are angelic figures. The Democratic Establishment is a mess of corruption and complacency and many Democratic voters are ignorant to the hypocrisy of their party.

Then I assume that, like me, you have a backbone to pair with that conviction and will not be voting for such a corrupt party.

#thirdparty

Originally Posted by Jopeal

That said, my basic view is that the Republican Party is ideologically and socially stuck in some earlier, simpler time in U.S history prior to the internet age.

By this logic, you're anti-immigration given that most of the Global South consists of societies far more traditional and espousing far more "pre-internet" sensibilities than the average US conservative. Your average evangelical Mississippian has far more in common with US liberals than the average immigrant from the Global South.

Or perhaps you've misstated your views and need to provide some clarification to resolve the glaring inconsistencies.

(I sincerely hope that your political worldview isn't predicated on the idea of "civilizational uplift" and the education of "backwards" traditionalist (non-white) immigrants from the Global South in the values of elite US liberals.)

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by lionsfan20

Are these the same pollsters that had Hillary dominating Trump in months leading up to 2016 election??

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....................................yes.

And hence why I'll be keenly interested in the outcome of this election between two candidates that I won't be voting for.

[lionsfan20]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

....................................yes.



And hence why I'll be keenly interested in the outcome of this election between two candidates that I won't be voting for.

I find it very surprising and even a little comical that the liberal media and most of the democratic party are literally repeating the same exact mistakes from the last election. They spend nearly all of their time bashing Trump and complaining about how terrible this country is at everything. Meanwhile they put zero effort into actually promoting a credible or realistic pres/VP nominee. I actually watch CNN quite a bit and I think today was the first time in months they even spent more than 5 minutes talking about Biden. Heck if your not a hard core Dem you probably wouldn't even know who was running from that party. Somehow they think the anyone but Trump approach will work the second time around. I would be very disappointed in my party overall if I was a democratic and I wouldn't be voting either.

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[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by lionsfan20

I find it very surprising and even a little comical that the liberal media and most of the democratic party are literally repeating the same exact mistakes from the last election. They spend nearly all of their time bashing Trump and complaining about how terrible this country is at everything. Meanwhile they put zero effort into actually promoting a credible or realistic pres/VP nominee. I actually watch CNN quite a bit and I think today was the first time in months they even spent more than 5 minutes talking about Biden. Heck if your not a hard core Dem you probably wouldn't even know who was running from that party. Somehow they think the anyone but Trump approach will work the second time around. I would be very disappointed in my party overall if I was a democratic and I wouldn't be voting either.

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Bingo. What is their solution?

[jarrodsalas]

THey are so caught up in pointing fingers that there is zero platform of solution.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Then I assume that, like me, you have a backbone to pair with that conviction and will not be voting for such a corrupt party.

#thirdparty

By this logic, you're anti-immigration given that most of the Global South consists of societies far more traditional and espousing far more "pre-internet" sensibilities than the average US conservative. Your average evangelical Mississippian has far more in common with US liberals than the average immigrant from the Global South.

Or perhaps you've misstated your views and need to provide some clarification to resolve the glaring inconsistencies.

(I sincerely hope that your political worldview isn't predicated on the idea of "civilizational uplift" and the education of "backwards" traditionalist (non-white) immigrants from the Global South in the values of elite US liberals.)

I voted third party in 2016. I was openly going to do the same this election depending on the candidate that the Dems elected.
Biden was 2nd worst, only to Bloomberg.
My preference is for both Parties to split in two, so I guess that makes me a potential 'fourth party voter.'

The Trump administrations Covid response, coupled with ideological idiocy from the right over the pandemic has pushed me past the point of indifference to a Biden Presidency. I would prefer to see a one-term Presidency from Biden at this point over a second from Trump, albeit grudgingly. I would not vote for Harris in 2024 regardless of this elections outcome.

Your second assertion might be the most random and amusing yet although still an interesting topic of choice.

Without debating the merits of blanket statements on the value systems of the entirety of Central & South America, I'm failing to see where my view is any type direct or indirect commentary on immigration.

I'll humor you that I'm still working out the nuance of the topic of Immigration in the U.S.
My moral would be that as a country we have no ground to stand on when refusing entry into our country founded on stolen land, but I can't honestly say what the best ideological path forward is for Immigration Reform.
Feel free to comment if this is a pressing issue for you. You seem to be geographically closer to the heart of it.

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

I voted third party in 2016. I was openly going to do the same this election depending on the candidate that the Dems elected.
Biden was 2nd worst, only to Bloomberg.
My preference is for both Parties to split in two, so I guess that makes me a potential 'fourth party voter.'

The Trump administrations Covid response, coupled with ideological idiocy from the right over the pandemic has pushed me past the point of indifference to a Biden Presidency. I would prefer to see a one-term Presidency from Biden at this point over a second from Trump, albeit grudgingly. I would not vote for Harris in 2024 regardless of this elections outcome.

Your second assertion might be the most random and amusing yet although still an interesting topic of choice.

Without debating the merits of blanket statements on the value systems of the entirety of Central & South America, I'm failing to see where my view is any type direct or indirect commentary on immigration.

I'll humor you that I'm still working out the nuance of the topic of Immigration in the U.S.
My moral would be that as a country we have no ground to stand on when refusing entry into our country founded on stolen land, but I can't honestly say what the best ideological path forward is for Immigration Reform.
Feel free to comment if this is a pressing issue for you. You seem to be geographically closer to the heart of it.

My opinion on stolen ground...

Native Americans were doing the same against one another. All nations were fought for across the globe. It is a part of evolution.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

I voted third party in 2016. I was openly going to do the same this election depending on the candidate that the Dems elected.
Biden was 2nd worst, only to Bloomberg.
My preference is for both Parties to split in two, so I guess that makes me a potential 'fourth party voter.'

Clarity certainly is not among your talents. Will you be voting third party or willingly supporting a party you described as corrupt?

Originally Posted by Jopeal

Without debating the merits of blanket statements on the value systems of the entirety of Central & South America, I'm failing to see where my view is any type direct or indirect commentary on immigration.

Such a failing is not unexpected, but it is not beyond remedy. Put simply:

You stated your opposition to half the country on the basis of their "pre-internet" sensibilities on topics ranging from economics to diversity to religion to energy policy means that unless you maintain double standards, the application of this metric to broader issues like immigration leaves you in an anatagonistic position in relation to most of the world.

I will say again, unless you have perhaps misrepresented yourself, your view smacks of a patronizing form of elitism.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Clarity certainly is not among your talents. Will you be voting third party or willingly supporting a party you described as corrupt?

Such a failing is not unexpected, but it is not beyond remedy. Put simply:

You stated your opposition to half the country on the basis of their "pre-internet" sensibilities on topics ranging from economics to diversity to religion to energy policy means that unless you maintain double standards, the application of this metric to broader issues like immigration leaves you in an anatagonistic position in relation to most of the world.

I will say again, unless you have perhaps misrepresented yourself, your view smacks of a patronizing form of elitism.

At this point, I would prefer Biden.
Opposition to half the country or less than half of active participating voters?

I've been horribly misrepresented by you since the day 1, so your opinions have become hollow.

Your rudimentary boxes bore me.

Your obsession with defending conservatives as if they're naive children in need of protection and you're Holden Caulfield is truly fascinating though.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

My opinion on stolen ground...

Native Americans were doing the same against one another. All nations were fought for across the globe. It is a part of evolution.

That's fair, but it's not justification.

[clocsta2323]

Late to the VP party.. the irony about racism and an old white man throwing a dart at a board at who the best female african american to join his ticket is hilarious.

[jlzinck]

Originally Posted by jdandns

You're right, of course, but there was an odd coincidence in that Kamala, the wrestler who passed away, also had the last name of Harris, so in that way, it was a Kamala Harris who died, which may have added to the confusion.
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No. It was Kamala or James Harris/ Never Kamala Harris. Only a moron would think she died when seeing this on Twitter.

[TheHeel]

TRUMP GOLF COUNT: 271*
Cost to Taxpayer: About $139,000,000

*Daytime visits to golf clubs since inauguration, with evidence of playing golf on at least 132 visits. Our last recorded outing was on August 9, 2020.

https://trumpgolfcount.com/

[jlzinck]

Originally Posted by anusinha

Is there anyone out there that actually like Kamala Harris? I havent found a single person with anything good to say about her.

I gotta say the reaction from my left leaning friends is underwhelming.

Seems the average working democrat friends I have either don't like or have a "meh" attitude for the pick.

The "woke/never Trump" group are moist over the pick.

Bottom line in the bottom group would still be moist if Biden picked a wet sponge to run with. These people would give up an organ for Trump to lose.

[ballhawkdawk]

Heel can you get us a count on how many times Trump jerks off on a daily basis?

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

Heel can you get us a count on how many times Trump jerks off on a daily basis?

Some of you have odd sexual fetishes.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by jlzinck

I gotta say the reaction from my left leaning friends is underwhelming.

Seems the average working democrat friends I have either don't like or have a "meh" attitude for the pick.

The "woke/never Trump" group are moist over the pick.

Bottom line in the bottom group would still be moist if Biden picked a wet sponge to run with. These people would give up an organ for Trump to lose.

2016 still a sour moment for many. I’m really hoping we get another round of YouTube clips of Democrats crying. I’d even take clips of Republicans crying, but I don’t foresee them being such sore losers.

I have so many more important things to deal with in my life than to be that invested in an election outcome. That’s quite a privilege... to have so few real life concerns that losing an election is a catastrophic event to your psyche.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

Some of you have odd sexual fetishes.

I just asked for a count, not a video or a description. I’ll take your lack of a hard “no” to mean you’re working on it.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

Heel can you get us a count on how many times Trump jerks off on a daily basis?

[ballhawkdawk]

Speaking of odd sexual fantasies, can we get a count on how many underage girls Biden has sexually assaulted?

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

I just asked for a count, not a video or a description. I’ll take your lack of a hard “no” to mean you’re working on it.

You do not find it odd that you're asking me how many times Trump jerked it?

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by mike1498

I believe in lower corporate taxes but Trumps corporate tax plan has only helped the highest up. Corporations have been using that money for share buybacks, higher wages for executives and higher dividend payments. These tax breaks should be used as credits for things like capex which is the exact opposite of what's actually happening. These breaks only help the daily workers when companies invest it into their company for things like machinery, education and higher workers wages not share buybacks and higher dividends.

You nailed it - THANK YOU!!

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

You do not find it odd that you're asking me how many times Trump jerked it?

I find it odd that we’re almost four years into Trump’s presidential term and you’re looking up how often he goes golfing. I can only dream of having so little going on in my life that such a consideration would even cross my mind.

The fact that you’re taking my comment seriously is alarming. I’m just F’ing with you.

[Boo]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

Speaking of odd sexual fantasies, can we get a count on how many underage girls Biden has sexually assaulted?

Ask Kamala, she believes them. Well she did until yesterday.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

You do not find it odd that you're asking me how many times Trump jerked it?

Compared to what you normally post, I don’t think anyone would give it a second thought.

Keep up the good work soldier.