Deshaun Watson Prices - Page 133

Siberian13 · 08-18-2022, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Confirmed: Sibs believes Josh Rosen will be starting by Week 8.

Browns would put him in after starting 4-3 with Jacoby to then lose 4 straight thanks to Josh

Siberian13 · 08-18-2022, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

Well what are his options?

porn.

packman80 · 08-18-2022, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

Well what are his options?

He will be released and go to Seattle.

No one is trading for him.

rman112 · 08-18-2022, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by packman80

He will be released and go to Seattle.

No one is trading for him.

He wouldn't be starting immediately even if he went to Seattle.

packman80 · 08-18-2022, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

He wouldn't be starting immediately even if he went to Seattle.

I think within 3-4 games he would be starting just because what they have is that bad in Seattle.

Siberian13 · 08-18-2022, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by packman80

He will be released and go to Seattle.

No one is trading for him.

Why would Seattle even bother. They need to start a rebuild. Just roll with what you got. Jimmy can just wait until a team loses their starter to injury

49erRCCollector · 08-18-2022, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

Why would Seattle even bother. They need to start a rebuild. Just roll with what you got. Jimmy can just wait until a team loses their starter to injury

The Niners have to release him soon or his $$$ becomes guaranteed, I believe, and I think they want him off the books. Word is he doesn't even have a playbook. He's just hanging out, throwing some passes.

I could be very wrong, but I could see the browns offering something for Jimmy because he'd give them a better chance to win and Watson is not 100% to step on the field week 12 and start and play well.

Maybe that is just wishful thinking. Maybe the Browns see this as a lost year... can't imagine the rest of that very talented team would love that idea.

rman112 · 08-18-2022, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

The Niners have to release him soon or his $$$ becomes guaranteed, I believe, and I think they want him off the books. Word is he doesn't even have a playbook. He's just hanging out, throwing some passes.

I could be very wrong, but I could see the browns offering something for Jimmy because he'd give them a better chance to win and Watson is not 100% to step on the field week 12 and start and play well.

Maybe that is just wishful thinking. Maybe the Browns see this as a lost year... can't imagine the rest of that very talented team would love that idea.

It's a weird situation. It's so late into camp already. If a team wants him, you can get him now but give up more. He plays earlier. You wait however long and it cuts into his playing time during the season. Has to learn the playbook, etc.

Then the other question is how much of the Browns' trust in Brissett is lip service?

packman80 · 08-18-2022, 12:54 PM

The Browns are the Browns the curse of Art Modell means they will always have hope but defeat will snatch victory away and leave the fans saying next year again and again.

Grid · 08-18-2022, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

The Niners have to release him soon or his $$$ becomes guaranteed, I believe, and I think they want him off the books. Word is he doesn't even have a playbook. He's just hanging out, throwing some passes.

I could be very wrong, but I could see the browns offering something for Jimmy because he'd give them a better chance to win and Watson is not 100% to step on the field week 12 and start and play well.

Maybe that is just wishful thinking. Maybe the Browns see this as a lost year... can't imagine the rest of that very talented team would love that idea.

The Browns brought in Jacoby Brissett, and gave him a $5MIL 1 year deal to cover for Watson. As they knew Watson would be out some games.

They then double downed, and brought in Joshua Dobbs for another MIL to backup Brissett. Both of those players, are mobile and buy time QB's much like Watson. So it would make sense to use them as a stop gap.

Plus, they both have been through camp and now preason with the team.

What good would it do anyone, to trade for Jimmy G who is not a "like" type QB to run this offense. Who hasnt spent any time with the team. And who would hog up millions of dollars, to play in less than a dozen games this year?

rman112 · 08-18-2022, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Grid

The Browns brought in Jacoby Brissett, and gave him a $5MIL 1 year deal to cover for Watson. As they knew Watson would be out some games.

They then double downed, and brought in Joshua Dobbs for another MIL to backup Brissett. Both of those players, are mobile and buy time QB's much like Watson. So it would make sense to use them as a stop gap.

Plus, they both have been through camp and now preason with the team.

What good would it do anyone, to trade for Jimmy G who is not a "like" type QB to run this offense. Who hasnt spent any time with the team. And who would hog up millions of dollars, to play in less than a dozen games this year?

I don't think they thought it'd be this many.

Zauron · 08-18-2022, 01:02 PM

And he still stands on the ground he didn't do anything wrong lol

I wanted him to succeed when he threw his hissy fit against the Texans after 2020, but dang I hope he fails for his decisions and actions.

packman80 · 08-18-2022, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Zauron

And he still stands on the ground he didn't do anything wrong lol

I wanted him to succeed when he threw his hissy fit against the Texans after 2020, but dang I hope he fails for his decisions and actions.

Criminally he did nothing wrong but he was hiring women in hopes they would have sex with him or at least give him sex acts. So he's just really a really rich perv like the Pats owner.

49erRCCollector · 08-18-2022, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Grid

The Browns brought in Jacoby Brissett, and gave him a $5MIL 1 year deal to cover for Watson. As they knew Watson would be out some games.

They then double downed, and brought in Joshua Dobbs for another MIL to backup Brissett. Both of those players, are mobile and buy time QB's much like Watson. So it would make sense to use them as a stop gap.

Plus, they both have been through camp and now preason with the team.

What good would it do anyone, to trade for Jimmy G who is not a "like" type QB to run this offense. Who hasnt spent any time with the team. And who would hog up millions of dollars, to play in less than a dozen games this year?

It depends if they want to win this season or not. Because we saw how rusty Watson was coming back. The idea he'll step on the field game 12 and light it up seems unrealistic.

This offense is not built exclusively around mobility.

If the Browns want to waste a year, they should stay on target.

Siberian13 · 08-18-2022, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

I don't think they thought it'd be this many.

They knew it would at least be 6 though.

rman112 · 08-18-2022, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

They knew it would at least be 6 though.

They bet on it.

Siberian13 · 08-18-2022, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

They bet on it.

Looks like they won. They just need to hope for some good luck this year. But they are now set for next year as they probably expected.

Grid · 08-18-2022, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

I don't think they thought it'd be this many.

They hoped for 6, and prepared for the entire season. That is why they crafted his contract as such. They knew there would be time served, and that is why they brought in Brisett & Dobbs.

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Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

It depends if they want to win this season or not. Because we saw how rusty Watson was coming back. The idea he'll step on the field game 12 and light it up seems unrealistic.

This offense is not built exclusively around mobility.

If the Browns want to waste a year, they should stay on target.

They have a ton of money into this team for sure. And they do plan on winning. I assume the plan would be to not suck for the first 12. And let a fresh Watson lead them into the post season, with over a month left to play.

You really dont go 12 games playing Jimmy G type ball. Then expect the offense to flip into a Watson type system. That is why they have the 2 QBs they picked up recently, who can play the same. Well, just not as well obviously.

And what do you really get picking up Jimmy G? He would be due like $25MIL. Even if the 49ers eat some of that, what is he getting you in 12 games? 15 TD and 10 INTs?

I just dont see the Browns carrying 5 QBs, even if Rosen is just leading the practice squad. Not if it means $20MIL more spent, and a lost draft pick for Jimmy.

Zauron · 08-18-2022, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by packman80

Criminally he did nothing wrong but he was hiring women in hopes they would have sex with him or at least give him sex acts. So he's just really a really rich perv like the Pats owner.

Criminally speaking, we have no evidence other than words about his actions. That is one reason why no charges were actually put on him.

But he sexually harrassed/assaulted(I don't know about that to be honest) 20+ women and coerced them to do things they were not comfortable with. And even today, he still admits he did nothing wrong. I think that is the kicker with me on this, him not really apologizing, saying he did nothing wrong, and said sorry if this triggered anyone, which is a slap in the face to victims.

Fenway55 · 08-18-2022, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

Well what are his options?

Go to free agency and get the best deal he can. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in East Rutherford.

rman112 · 08-18-2022, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Grid

They hoped for 6, and prepared for the entire season. That is why they crafted his contract as such. They knew there would be time served, and that is why they brought in Brisett & Dobbs.

Garoppolo might be better than both of them combined.

kyle1707 · 08-18-2022, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Zauron

And he still stands on the ground he didn't do anything wrong lol

I wanted him to succeed when he threw his hissy fit against the Texans after 2020, but dang I hope he fails for his decisions and actions.

Just saw 2 interviews without Watson from espn and nbc

Both said he apologized for making bad decisions

Not apologizing to the women or anyone

Claims he did zero wrong

You are missing 28 games ..

Amazing. Good luck Cleveland ….

asujbl · 08-18-2022, 02:42 PM

I'm just glad it's done

Run the ball 50 times a game, you have 4 very capable running backs, and try to beat the teams like the Jets and Falcons that you should beat

Stefanski loves the TE position, along with Cooper out there, so just shorten the game as much as possible and rely on your RB's, OLine, and hopefully an improved Defense

I made the joke, maybe earlier in this thread, that if I can be back in Columbus by 6:30 instead of 7:30 after a 1:00 game that means we probably won. If I get home at 7:30 which is typical? We lost as we threw the ball too much. I'm half kidding.

Worst case? It's a lost year completely, and that's very possible, but Watson at least gets 6 games to shake some rust off before the 2023 season

That would suck but it's better than him missing 2 straight years and trying to go in cold in 2023. He at least gets some games to get back at it (I'm ignoring all the cap ramifications etc... of 11 vs. 16 games)

That's where I'm at today as a Browns fan

Natsfan32 · 08-18-2022, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by packman80

Criminally he did nothing wrong but he was hiring women in hopes they would have sex with him or at least give him sex acts. So he's just really a really rich perv like the Pats owner.

That is not correct. He wasn't prosecuted because the government believed it would be difficult to prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. It would have been Watson's word against the masseuse, with little or no corroborating evidence.

Grid · 08-18-2022, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

Garoppolo might be better than both of them combined.

But at what cost? $25MIL + a draft pick in trade? To fill in for a dozen games?

And like I mentioned, Brisett and Dobbs have the luxury of being in meetings, camp and preseason since the start. They have had their playbook for months now.

You think Jimmy G can walk in and outplay them both, with only a few weeks left to go before the season starts? And that is assuming he gets there soon.

By the time he gets caught up, Watson will be a month away from starting. And the Browns would have just spent half their cap and a pick on Jimmy.

Can it happen? Sure, the Browns be Browning and all. I just dont see them being better off with him, not at what it will take to bring him on board.

08-18-2022, 01:02 PM	#3312
Zauron Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 5,602	And he still stands on the ground he didn't do anything wrong lol I wanted him to succeed when he threw his hissy fit against the Texans after 2020, but dang I hope he fails for his decisions and actions. __________________ Champ Bailey Collector! Currently: 909/2602 hermanotarjeta: You've been BRIOSED!!!!!!!!!

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asujbl Temporarily Suspended Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 63,299 ohiosundevils	I'm just glad it's done Run the ball 50 times a game, you have 4 very capable running backs, and try to beat the teams like the Jets and Falcons that you should beat Stefanski loves the TE position, along with Cooper out there, so just shorten the game as much as possible and rely on your RB's, OLine, and hopefully an improved Defense I made the joke, maybe earlier in this thread, that if I can be back in Columbus by 6:30 instead of 7:30 after a 1:00 game that means we probably won. If I get home at 7:30 which is typical? We lost as we threw the ball too much. I'm half kidding. Worst case? It's a lost year completely, and that's very possible, but Watson at least gets 6 games to shake some rust off before the 2023 season That would suck but it's better than him missing 2 straight years and trying to go in cold in 2023. He at least gets some games to get back at it (I'm ignoring all the cap ramifications etc... of 11 vs. 16 games) That's where I'm at today as a Browns fan __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

08-18-2022, 12:54 PM	#3309
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 17,197	The Browns are the Browns the curse of Art Modell means they will always have hope but defeat will snatch victory away and leave the fans saying next year again and again.