First Buzz: 2019 Topps Series 2 baseball cards - Page 13

Chrisyork33 · 06-10-2019, 11:12 AM

Any retail out there yet?

Housemiller33 · 06-10-2019, 11:14 AM

FOMO is strong. Just pre-ordered a case of jumbo.

psochaps · 06-10-2019, 11:16 AM

Very strong....
Ordered a case of each.

smanzari · 06-10-2019, 11:21 AM

Very, Very Strong...

Just bought a blaster...

Rjcollings1973 · 06-10-2019, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tier1dc

A commodity isn't the same as a retail product.

If the packs/box/case have a price on them then that price should be honored. If Target, Walmart, grocery store have a lower price posted on a product on the shelf than is current selling at they honor the lower price for that sale and then fix it.

It's such a slime ball move to turn away from a paying customer to jack up the price for a product because they want to buy it.

Your correct it’s not exact but the point is the same.

I for one will never fault a man for making a fair profit.
Economics 101 on replacement inventory, don’t sell 5$ product at 8$ if it cost you 10$ to replace it with.

Yes this is a hobby for many of us but these guys are in business. Just like blowout and the distributors selling it at higher prices. As long as they sell it more power to them. If they overprice it no one will buy it. And no one buying product hasn’t been a big issue last few years.

vodkalodka · 06-10-2019, 12:23 PM

Have odds been mentioned on regular SPs yet? Curious after the fiasco with missing in S1 jumbo.

tier1dc · 06-10-2019, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rjcollings1973

Your correct it’s not exact but the point is the same.

I for one will never fault a man for making a fair profit.
Economics 101 on replacement inventory, don’t sell 5$ product at 8$ if it cost you 10$ to replace it with.

Yes this is a hobby for many of us but these guys are in business. Just like blowout and the distributors selling it at higher prices. As long as they sell it more power to them. If they overprice it no one will buy it. And no one buying product hasn’t been a big issue last few years.

fair profit was the original price on that the boxes were labeled at. it was fair enough to set the price in the first place, the shop owner did that, not the customer.

either the shop owner honors the price they have listed or they've become a commodity exchange.

I can say that when blowout's retail (fantastic store) has prices cheaper than the website they honor that price for as much as someone wants to buy. THEN they change the price to reflect current going rate for the next customer.

to shirk a paying customer in the final steps of a transaction to squeeze an extra $5 per box is dirty and shouldn't be treated as anything else.

edclay · 06-10-2019, 01:23 PM

First Vlad up on eBay and it's not numbered.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-TOPPS-...4AAOSwqQFc~po2

brentandbecca · 06-10-2019, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by edclay

First Vlad up on eBay and it's not numbered.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-TOPPS-...4AAOSwqQFc~po2

Guerrero is easier to pull....5 per case regardless of hobby or jumbo

brentandbecca · 06-10-2019, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by vodkalodka

Have odds been mentioned on regular SPs yet? Curious after the fiasco with missing in S1 jumbo.

sp are 1:5 jumbo, 1:20 hobby

premium1981 · 06-10-2019, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by edclay

First Vlad up on eBay and it's not numbered.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-TOPPS-...4AAOSwqQFc~po2

No numbering is probably a reflection of the Acuna/Gleyber confusion last year. Especially when they put another version in the factory sets as a variation.

craines27mc · 06-10-2019, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by griffan15

I pre-ordered 6 cases. 5 are hobby, only 1 jumbo.

I'm actually hoping to keep these sealed though, so let's see how this all shakes out.

Riiiiigggghhhttttt

LVDan · 06-10-2019, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by brentandbecca

Guerrero is easier to pull....5 per case regardless of hobby or jumbo

5 per case?
Lol I wish they wouldve just made him a base card.

edclay · 06-10-2019, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by brentandbecca

Guerrero is easier to pull....5 per case regardless of hobby or jumbo

Do you think there's a chance they will be in retail?

actionbryan · 06-10-2019, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrisyork33

Any retail out there yet?

not at my walmart (that had retail out early last year's update)

Also, 5 per case is a borderline base card. I bought two hobby boxes in January and didn't make a full set of S1

Ajax1723 · 06-10-2019, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by actionbryan

not at my walmart (that had retail out early last year's update)

Also, 5 per case is a borderline base card. I bought two hobby boxes in January and didn't make a full set of S1

There should be almost exactly 10 of each base in a hobby case, so Vlad would be about half the print run. This obviously changes dramatically if it is not available in retail. But still, 3-4x easier than the Gleyber or Acuna last year.

actionbryan · 06-10-2019, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ajax1723

There should be almost exactly 10 of each base in a hobby case, so Vlad would be about half the print run. This obviously changes dramatically if it is not available in retail. But still, 3-4x easier than the Gleyber or Acuna last year.

yea, so obv not as common as a base, but if they are falling out 5 per case, the singles on ebay will reflect that pretty hard. At least I know to temper my excitement after pulling one

LVDan · 06-10-2019, 01:51 PM

I think Topps blew this one a little.
Not SP'd enough to make higher end collectors care much, or even give much excitement for a lower level collector IMO.
A base card and all the parallels woulda been yuge!
Its gonna be all about update I guess.

babybull · 06-10-2019, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LVDan

I think Topps blew this one a little.
Not SP'd enough to make higher end collectors care much, or even give much excitement for a lower level collector IMO.
A base card and all the parallels woulda been yuge!
Its gonna be all about update I guess.

Isn't it always about Update?

PDCCollectibles · 06-10-2019, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by babybull

Isn't it always about Update?

I think he's gonna be in Club....remember Judge's card in '17 Archives...blew up. Think it could be like that....

LVDan · 06-10-2019, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by babybull

Isn't it always about Update?

indeed

Chrisyork33 · 06-10-2019, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by babybull

Isn't it always about Update?

ALWAYS!!!!

brentandbecca · 06-10-2019, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by edclay

Do you think there's a chance they will be in retail?

definitely

Stech36 · 06-10-2019, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by brentandbecca

definitely

Don’t know if you’ve opened much, but still thinking Jumbo over Hobby? I can switch my hobby case to jumbo If I want for $60 less.

brentandbecca · 06-10-2019, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stech36

Don’t know if you’ve opened much, but still thinking Jumbo over Hobby? I can switch my hobby case to jumbo If I want for $60 less.

opened zero
the VG listed on ebay from just baseball is from retail
he only opens retail

but the jumbo odds are the best jumbo odds for color/better autos i've seen in a few years (for s2 or s1), I went back thru all my wrappers

hobby is much more difficult than prior series and years DESPITE production decrease, as a lot of content moved to jumbo, even red autos that were once hobby exclusive
hobby odds come out to 1 auto per case on avg, vs 2-3 in S1
hobby odds on inserts tougher than S1 too, except iconic cards, which is the tough one in jumbo now
not sure why they did that
but jumbo is hands down better on odds

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Chrisyork33 Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 2,470 Chrius_kskvk42sh Chrisyork33	Any retail out there yet?

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Housemiller33 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Folsom, Ca Posts: 848 Housebowl300	FOMO is strong. Just pre-ordered a case of jumbo.

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psochaps Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,360 psochaps psochaps	Very strong.... Ordered a case of each.

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smanzari Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: N/A Posts: 10,640	Very, Very Strong... Just bought a blaster...

06-10-2019, 12:23 PM	#306
vodkalodka Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois Posts: 938 vodkalodka	Have odds been mentioned on regular SPs yet? Curious after the fiasco with missing in S1 jumbo.

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edclay Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,090	First Vlad up on eBay and it's not numbered. https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-TOPPS-...4AAOSwqQFc~po2

06-10-2019, 01:51 PM	#318
LVDan Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 17,561	I think Topps blew this one a little. Not SP'd enough to make higher end collectors care much, or even give much excitement for a lower level collector IMO. A base card and all the parallels woulda been yuge! Its gonna be all about update I guess.