Optic or Prizm??? - Page 13

mma138 · 01-10-2017, 11:24 PM

can someone tell me which colors are exclusive to blasters ?

jackmac1983 · 01-11-2017, 12:04 AM

I really like optic over prizm.

ThoseBackPages · 01-11-2017, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mma138

can someone tell me which colors are exclusive to blasters ?

Optic: Pink
Prizm: Flash

mma138 · 01-11-2017, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Optic: Pink
Prizm: Flash

but the other colors are still possible correct ? just maybe harder to hit ?

Sportscards12 · 01-11-2017, 08:14 AM

As I receive more Optic I think I am reverting to Optic over Prizm. I really like the on card autos and the cards loo great in person....

imbluestreak23 · 01-12-2017, 01:02 AM

Haven't bought football cards in years, at least regularly, but I've picked up 4 Dak Optics. 2 silver prizms, 1 blue prizm, and 1 base auto, all beautifully centered

Definitely paid a premium for centering, but I can't have bastardized cards! Centering must be legit!

Eaglesfan99 · 01-20-2017, 03:27 PM

After buying both I would say I prefer prizm. Like the look of the cards

yoyosh · 01-20-2017, 03:34 PM

I know they aren't numbered cards, but Optic's bronze parallel cards seem to be pretty rare(purple too from searching the eBay auctions).
I opened 7-8 Optic "Collector's Box" and it looks like you only pull 1-2 Rated Rookies in each one.
With a 50 card Rated Rookie set, that's a really tough pull, right?
What do you guys think?

twisty571 · 01-20-2017, 03:47 PM

Am I losing my mind or is there another thread? I thought I posted in here

I prefer Optic. Both have there ups & downs as far as pics go. I like the throwback design. They are also doing it like Topps did with base Topps & Chrome. The pics are a personal preference and I like the Auto's & being on card & numbered which I would have liked Topps to do with their base chrome Auto's.

Edit to add I think Topps refractor coating is nicer for some reason?

ThoseBackPages · 01-20-2017, 04:49 PM

my Target FINALLY got in Optic retail!

mrdallas · 01-20-2017, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

Haven't bought football cards in years, at least regularly, but I've picked up 4 Dak Optics. 2 silver prizms, 1 blue prizm, and 1 base auto, all beautifully centered

Definitely paid a premium for centering, but I can't have bastardized cards! Centering must be legit!

Retail Blue?? If so amazing pickup

jmsodpc · 01-28-2017, 08:54 PM

i just bought an optic hobby box online tonight...should receive it next week sometime

HBMC · 01-28-2017, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by twisty571

Edit to add I think Topps refractor coating is nicer for some reason?

Depends on the year, 2014 Base Refractors were awesome, but 2015's didn't pop as much.

jared6180 · 01-28-2017, 09:24 PM

I have been following this thread, but wants to give time for many opinions and for the newness of Optic to wear off. I spent about the same $ on Prizm and Optic this year, Optic $100(1 hobby box) and Prizm $80(blasters). Honestly my mind has kind of shifted. I was leaning towards Optic because of it's format with the color refractors and one on card auto per box, and even though I didn't get any autos out of my Prizm blasters I tend to think it is a better overall product, I wasn't anticipating autos out of blasters anyhow.

For 2016, Prizm is the winner.

For 2017, Panini needs to at the very least format the Prizm autos like the Contenders autos, get the guys at the Rookie Premiere to sign ON CARD, and put 1-2 of those in each box and the other autos can be stickers. For retail Prizm take the relics out, nobody honestly wants a single color jersey anymore, give us an extra pack of cards instead with the possibility of an auto or a dedicated pack of a retail only color like pink was this year. Additionally, there is no need for 3-4 different levels of retail Prizm. Packs, Blaster, Little Retail Hobby type boxes, it is overkill, especially when each retail product carries it's own exclusive color. Pink, light blue, red...dumb.

For 2017, Optic needs to have 2 ON CARD autos for a $90/box product to start. Topps got away with it because you could pre-order Chrome at $60-65/box, 2017 may not have the draft class firepower to carry a product as expensive as Optic, Panini got VERY lucky with 2016 being the first year of the exclusive and had two Cowboys (HUGE FAN BASE) carrying the product. Additionally, make the RCs look the same. There should not be two tiers of RCs with two different designs. Make one RC design and if the guys from the Premiere need an insert, make one, but Tyreek Hill was a better rookie than most of the guys with a "Rated Rookie" card.

Both products had issues, with Optic having the most considering the price point. Panini has some work to do.

03supto · 01-28-2017, 10:15 PM

Both are good

pgisback · 01-28-2017, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HBMC

Depends on the year, 2014 Base Refractors were awesome, but 2015's didn't pop as much.

Agree 2014 was one of my favorite Chrome years, everything from their autos to sepia refractors, were awesome. 2015 was a down year for chrome.

Branesergen · 01-28-2017, 10:40 PM

17 Prizm Dak and Zeke rookies (base and a few colors) sold at the show today. 0 optic. Another interesting tidbit - 10 BGS 9.5s sold, 0 PSA 10s.

As for autos - people were looking for all kinds, didn't matter, as long as it was NFL jersey, they were selling.

I used Dak and Zeke because they flew off the tables. Wentz, Paxton, Tyreek, Goff - all 0 sales or even looks. And also this is a show in Texas with heavy Cowboys signers, including the triplets, so Dallas was being bought hard.

As I've always said - Prizm hands down - which is why I stocked up on them in the beginning and am still stocking up lol

norskarv · 01-28-2017, 11:16 PM

I hate the off-centering in both, especially in the Optic. Yeah, I know it makes the well-centered ones more prized. I'm leaning towards Optic over Prizm lately, but those color variations sure can be fugly in Optic.

03supto · 01-28-2017, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by norskarv

I hate the off-centering in both, especially in the Optic. Yeah, I know it makes the well-centered ones more prized. I'm leaning towards Optic over Prizm lately, but those color variations sure can be fugly in Optic.

What the same ones that Chrome had? Right...

HBMC · 01-28-2017, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pgisback

Agree 2014 was one of my favorite Chrome years, everything from their autos to sepia refractors, were awesome. 2015 was a down year for chrome.

They certainly made up for the tsunami of cases by at least making the cards look halfway decent. 2015 was another story, and 2015 as a product was by far the best I have ever done qualitatively buying Chrome in general.

norskarv · 01-29-2017, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 03supto

What the same ones that Chrome had? Right...

Here's an example of an Optic variation that makes me want to throw up a little...

TheFrenzy · 10-23-2018, 01:27 PM

Optic might have delivered the knockout punch this year with Prizm's missteps.

cardmole · 10-23-2018, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Optic might have delivered the knockout punch this year with Prizm's missteps.

For me it's the price point. Prizm price has been manipulated upwards to ridiculous levels the last few years. Optic has remained near Topps Chrome price.
The other thing I really like is the Optic hot boxes-was lucky enough to get one last year and got 5 autos + #ed/5, 2 #ed/10, and 5 others under #/99.

chuckerrrr · 10-23-2018, 02:08 PM

Prizm out tomorrow???

daviswr7 · 10-23-2018, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckerrrr

Prizm out tomorrow???

friday.

01-11-2017, 12:04 AM	#302
jackmac1983 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 989	I really like optic over prizm. __________________ I collect AJ green autos, his 2011 chrome refractors, chrome autos. I also pc Giovani Bernard, Jeremy Hill, and a little Andy Dalton. Need his 2011 topps chrome red auto. I also collect Jerry "The GOAT" Rice autos http://s40.photobucket.com/user/jackmac1983/library/?sort=3&page=1

01-20-2017, 03:47 PM	#309
twisty571 Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 8,808	Am I losing my mind or is there another thread? I thought I posted in here I prefer Optic. Both have there ups & downs as far as pics go. I like the throwback design. They are also doing it like Topps did with base Topps & Chrome. The pics are a personal preference and I like the Auto's & being on card & numbered which I would have liked Topps to do with their base chrome Auto's. Edit to add I think Topps refractor coating is nicer for some reason? Last edited by twisty571; 01-20-2017 at 03:50 PM.

01-20-2017, 04:49 PM	#310
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,933 ThoseBackPages	my Target FINALLY got in Optic retail! __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

01-28-2017, 10:40 PM	#317
Branesergen Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Montgomery Texas Posts: 6,901 Branesergen	17 Prizm Dak and Zeke rookies (base and a few colors) sold at the show today. 0 optic. Another interesting tidbit - 10 BGS 9.5s sold, 0 PSA 10s. As for autos - people were looking for all kinds, didn't matter, as long as it was NFL jersey, they were selling. I used Dak and Zeke because they flew off the tables. Wentz, Paxton, Tyreek, Goff - all 0 sales or even looks. And also this is a show in Texas with heavy Cowboys signers, including the triplets, so Dallas was being bought hard. As I've always said - Prizm hands down - which is why I stocked up on them in the beginning and am still stocking up lol __________________ I will never buy a used car. I knew this one guy who bought a used car once and 10 years later...BAM!...Herpes. Did you eat the whole bowl of stupid this morning??

01-10-2017, 11:24 PM	#301
mma138 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 10,947	can someone tell me which colors are exclusive to blasters ?

01-11-2017, 08:14 AM	#305
Sportscards12 Banned - PBM Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 1,806	As I receive more Optic I think I am reverting to Optic over Prizm. I really like the on card autos and the cards loo great in person....

01-12-2017, 01:02 AM	#306
imbluestreak23 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Meandering the matrix code that the hobby/forum overlords spit out Posts: 17,754 shortslabs	Haven't bought football cards in years, at least regularly, but I've picked up 4 Dak Optics. 2 silver prizms, 1 blue prizm, and 1 base auto, all beautifully centered Definitely paid a premium for centering, but I can't have bastardized cards! Centering must be legit!

01-20-2017, 03:27 PM	#307
Eaglesfan99 Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,540	After buying both I would say I prefer prizm. Like the look of the cards

01-20-2017, 03:34 PM	#308
yoyosh Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: USA Posts: 4,368 partyauctions yoyosh	I know they aren't numbered cards, but Optic's bronze parallel cards seem to be pretty rare(purple too from searching the eBay auctions). I opened 7-8 Optic "Collector's Box" and it looks like you only pull 1-2 Rated Rookies in each one. With a 50 card Rated Rookie set, that's a really tough pull, right? What do you guys think?

01-28-2017, 08:54 PM	#312
jmsodpc Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,314	i just bought an optic hobby box online tonight...should receive it next week sometime

01-28-2017, 09:24 PM	#314
jared6180 Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Kansas Posts: 4,421	I have been following this thread, but wants to give time for many opinions and for the newness of Optic to wear off. I spent about the same $ on Prizm and Optic this year, Optic $100(1 hobby box) and Prizm $80(blasters). Honestly my mind has kind of shifted. I was leaning towards Optic because of it's format with the color refractors and one on card auto per box, and even though I didn't get any autos out of my Prizm blasters I tend to think it is a better overall product, I wasn't anticipating autos out of blasters anyhow. For 2016, Prizm is the winner. For 2017, Panini needs to at the very least format the Prizm autos like the Contenders autos, get the guys at the Rookie Premiere to sign ON CARD, and put 1-2 of those in each box and the other autos can be stickers. For retail Prizm take the relics out, nobody honestly wants a single color jersey anymore, give us an extra pack of cards instead with the possibility of an auto or a dedicated pack of a retail only color like pink was this year. Additionally, there is no need for 3-4 different levels of retail Prizm. Packs, Blaster, Little Retail Hobby type boxes, it is overkill, especially when each retail product carries it's own exclusive color. Pink, light blue, red...dumb. For 2017, Optic needs to have 2 ON CARD autos for a $90/box product to start. Topps got away with it because you could pre-order Chrome at $60-65/box, 2017 may not have the draft class firepower to carry a product as expensive as Optic, Panini got VERY lucky with 2016 being the first year of the exclusive and had two Cowboys (HUGE FAN BASE) carrying the product. Additionally, make the RCs look the same. There should not be two tiers of RCs with two different designs. Make one RC design and if the guys from the Premiere need an insert, make one, but Tyreek Hill was a better rookie than most of the guys with a "Rated Rookie" card. Both products had issues, with Optic having the most considering the price point. Panini has some work to do.

01-28-2017, 10:15 PM	#315
03supto Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: FPO AP Posts: 5,233	Both are good

01-28-2017, 11:16 PM	#318
norskarv Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 777	I hate the off-centering in both, especially in the Optic. Yeah, I know it makes the well-centered ones more prized. I'm leaning towards Optic over Prizm lately, but those color variations sure can be fugly in Optic.

10-23-2018, 01:27 PM	#322
TheFrenzy Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Texan in AZ Posts: 44,115	Optic might have delivered the knockout punch this year with Prizm's missteps.

10-23-2018, 02:08 PM	#324
chuckerrrr Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Georgetown TX Posts: 3,445 charger21	Prizm out tomorrow???