LeBron Exquisite /99 - altered & damaged

[gslayton]

You guys are grasping...remember you are looking at a blurry black and white photo, not scanned but taken from about a foot away. My cards are all in a vault.


I've helped way to many members on this site over the years, you guys want to come after me because I showcased my cards on bnc stands and personally know Eric through the shows.

Do your due diligence before buying cards. I always have.

Here's another copy of the MJ platinum from worthpoint. Looks identical to mine.







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[Silentcommit]

Originally Posted by chuckerrrr

Card is def trimmed


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Lol! It's impossible to tell from these images. This is just wish casting by dudes who want to believe because they disliked the card owners card stands.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Silentcommit

Lol! It's impossible to tell from these images. This is just wish casting by dudes who want to believe because they disliked the card owners card stands.

he's back!

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by gslayton

You guys are grasping...remember you are looking at a blurry black and white photo, not scanned but taken from about a foot away. My cards are all in a vault.


I've helped way to many members on this site over the years, you guys want to come after me because I showcased my cards on bnc stands and personally know Eric through the shows.

Do your due diligence before buying cards. I always have.

Here's another copy of the MJ platinum from worthpoint. Looks identical to mine.







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Please dont take it as me coming after you. I don't know you and have never dealt with you. This thread is about BNC and his trimmed cards. I have no idea what cards anyone has bought from him including you. The photos provided of the MJ look trimmed. It could be the quality of the photos used. Don't take it as an attack. I made a comment about the BNC stands because honest members shouldn't be promoting someone like BNC. Take that as you wish.

[KhalDrogo]

Wouldn’t be surprised if that copy was trimmed. While this may be frustrating, this is probably your new norm in high-end cards thanks to people like BNC and Steve Deer.

Here is another example sold raw in 2011 that looks like the first example I posted.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...inum-136086819




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[KhalDrogo]

And here are cleaner photos of your card compared to the first example. Overlooked that there were better images you provided

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The bottom appears short, and the top appears the same. So, the card would be short, no? Could be factory variance, sure. It was 1997.


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[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Silentcommit

Lol! It's impossible to tell from these images. This is just wish casting by dudes who want to believe because they disliked the card owners card stands.

Like a magnet.


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[Deadshot]

Originally Posted by gslayton

I've helped way to many members on this site over the years, you guys want to come after me because I showcased my cards on bnc stands and personally know Eric through the shows.

Grant - Let me start by saying I still think the LeBron Limited Logos is the route we need to be going here.

I'm not sure what angle these posters are pursuing exactly but while I have you in here, I'd like to pick your brain.

Just for reference, I'm going to post my every mention of you here because I've specifically noted twice that the stands are not an issue.

Originally Posted by Deadshot

The stands are not the issue here. Buying and selling a card is not an issue here. I've had one transaction with gslayton and it was awesome. I'm thankful for being able to add those cards to my collection.

He came in here with info about another character that can be added to the mix. He has an extensive knowledge of high end cards. He's done business with BNC on multiple occasions and his opinions are valued here. It would be nice to see the extent of their workings and what else he thinks of the situation.

Before everyone drags him through the mud, it would be nice to hear his thoughts first.

Originally Posted by Deadshot

I'll say it again, I don't think the stands are a big issue. I appreciate gslayton coming in here and posting. He obviously has a wealth of knowledge when it comes to the types of cards we're looking at here. In fact, I wish he would chime in more.

As quoted above, it seems like he's using BNC to sell a Jordan card on his site (I could be wrong, but the PSA cert numbers match up). I figure this is the extent of their relationship, but I can't speak for him (nor would I ever consider it after what went down in this thread earlier).

Originally Posted by Deadshot

I think everyone associated with BNC in any capacity should be given a chance to clear their name (and they should).

Someome else brought up that gslayton is using BNC stands to show off his cards. There's obviously some relationship between the two, even if just buyer and seller. He picked up this card in Nov 2017 that he showed off here:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5c93e013ca.jpg

Either it was sold to BNC at one point or he is consigning it for him:

https://buynicecards.com/product/199...p-5-one-higher

Is your association with BNC simply buying and selling? Do you sell cards through his site like the one above perhaps?

Hopefully if this is a nonissue we can put it to rest and switch gears back to the LeBron LL.....

[bmf]

Originally Posted by SchmittFaced

Is this Eric bitz the same that worked for Shreve crump and low? Could a laser cutter used for diamonds trim cards?

I don't know the name of the place but he did work for a diamond jewelry dealer.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Like a magnet.


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He's been quite the defense attorney in Adam's absence.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Deadshot

I'm not sure what angle these posters are pursuing exactly

BNC's inventory is Dirty

[the27guy]

Just to be clear, khal, those are two different cards, right? Grants is not 47, correct?

[Deadshot]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

BNC's inventory is Dirty

The person who came in here and brought gslayton's name up said BNC could be involved in the grading of this card.

Gslayton said Josh Cade graded it and people who follow his Facebook and Instagram will note that's consistent with his mail days on there. He tags Josh. I don't see where this card was in BNC inventory.

Am I missing something? This seems like basic reading.

[theLUCKYshow]

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[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by the27guy

Just to be clear, khal, those are two different cards, right? Grants is not 47, correct?

Correct. I just grabbed the first I found on Worthpoint for comparison since the photo used for the card has many points of reference to consider.

We can all agree that the images can be placed differently on the cards, by very small amounts. But if the bottom shows more of the image, the top must show less. Unless the card was cut short at the factory (always a possibility) or was trimmed.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Deadshot

The person who came in here and brought gslayton's name up said BNC could be involved in the grading of this card.

Gslayton said Josh Cade graded it and people who follow his Facebook and Instagram will note that's consistent with his mail days on there. He tags Josh. I don't see where this card was in BNC inventory.

Am I missing something? This seems like basic reading.

Ok, but i think what is being said is that they want him to be careful as he probably has bought cards from him in the past

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by gslayton

I've helped way to many members on this site over the years, you guys want to come after me because I showcased my cards on bnc stands and personally know Eric through the shows.

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I’ve noticed you seem to skirt the main question people have asked about you. What are your thoughts on Eric Bitz and buynicecards now that’s you’ve seen this thread? Do you thinks it’s wise to continue using buynicecards stands? Do you think he’s done anything wrong? You know him personally and seems like you could help others going forward since you’ve helped so many other members on this site.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

I’ve noticed you seem to skirt the main question people have asked about you. What are your thoughts on Eric Bitz and buynicecards now that’s you’ve seen this thread? Do you thinks it’s wise to continue using buynicecards stands? Do you think he’s done anything wrong? You know him personally and seems like you could help others going forward since you’ve helped so many other members on this site.

I think 40 days and 128 pages later would tell you he’s not going to answer those questions.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

I think 40 days and 128 pages later would tell you he’s not going to answer those questions.

He may not and that’s fine. It’s his choice to remain silent on those questions. I would think someone out there would defend buynicecards if they dealt with him personally. But so far the only ones who came forward to his defense have looked like fools. So far we have nothing that says this person Eric Bitz of buynicecards is innocent. Eric himself can’t even defend himself. What a mess all these people associated with Eric are in. Pretty shameful.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

I think 40 days and 128 pages later would tell you he’s not going to answer those questions.

Eric probably still has some nice cards he wants.

Seems to be the going theme.

[Silentcommit]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

He may not and that’s fine. It’s his choice to remain silent on those questions. I would think someone out there would defend buynicecards if they dealt with him personally. But so far the only ones who came forward to his defense have looked like fools. So far we have nothing that says this person Eric Bitz of buynicecards is innocent. Eric himself can’t even defend himself. What a mess all these people associated with Eric are in. Pretty shameful.

This is awesome. People now need to prove their innocence. This thread is great. What mess is anyone in, can you clarify?

Try this. If you don't think buynicecards is reputable, don't buy anything from him. Why do you need gslayton to tell you this?

And don't get me started on those card stands!

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Silentcommit

This is awesome. People now need to prove their innocence. This thread is great. What mess is anyone in, can you clarify?

Try this. If you don't think buynicecards is reputable, don't buy anything from him. Why do you need gslayton to tell you this?

And don't get me started on those card stands!

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by Silentcommit

This is awesome. People now need to prove their innocence. This thread is great. What mess is anyone in, can you clarify?

Try this. If you don't think buynicecards is reputable, don't buy anything from him. Why do you need gslayton to tell you this?

And don't get me started on those card stands!

Hey look Captain save a hoe.

[ninjacookies]

huhuhuhuhu

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by Silentcommit

This is awesome. People now need to prove their innocence. This thread is great. What mess is anyone in, can you clarify?

Try this. If you don't think buynicecards is reputable, don't buy anything from him. Why do you need gslayton to tell you this?

And don't get me started on those card stands!

So you’re saying Eric shouldn’t come in and prove his innocence? I feel like you, me and any innocent person would do that. The mess would be all the altered cards Eric and anyone else involved, right? Do you know Eric personally? I’m asking this guy because he seems to know him personally. What are his thoughts about Eric and this mess? He’s seemed to have dealt with eric and should have more knowledge than you or I.