Julio Rodriguez - Page 127

kyle1707 · 02-12-2023, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

why BGS?

Because it would be a Psa 9

Still I’m a fan of bgs

Love the sleeve and that the card can’t be broken out of the case and resealed

ThoseBackPages · 02-12-2023, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle1707

Because it would be a Psa 9

Still I’m a fan of bgs

Love the sleeve and that the card can’t be broken out of the case and resealed

bleh. the sleeve is terrible. might as well be in a top loader lol

Funkster · 02-12-2023, 05:53 PM

Oof, Houdini pulled the 2022 BCS purple image variation last night.

pewe · 02-12-2023, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle1707

Because it would be a Psa 9

Still I’m a fan of bgs

Love the sleeve and that the card can’t be broken out of the case and resealed

This one looks like the case where PSA is a 10 when BGS grades tougher on centering??? Looks like the target to hide flaws behind PSA’s lenient grading

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jus bert · 02-13-2023, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

Bulk will now let you declare up to $499. I think you can get this in at that declared price without an upchare. I sent in a 2018 Topps Chrome Devers auto blue wave #/150 and put a DV of $199. No up-charge. It gemmed too.

I sent in a cosmic Julio auto at the value plus level. Got upcharged (which I was happy to pay) when it gemmed.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 02-13-2023, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jus bert

I sent in a cosmic Julio auto at the value plus level. Got upcharged (which I was happy to pay) when it gemmed.

Nice! I like that card a lot.

pewe · 02-13-2023, 12:47 PM

What's up with the crazy logo fractor pricing on JRod??? Other players I'm tracking have the same cards going for roughly the level of a flagship rainbow foil... yet JRod these are going for 10x that price.

Which is more likely?
-- other players come up to JRod's level
-- JRod falls to the level of other players
-- JRod somehow stays unique and is the one oddly priced player
-- other?

ObanMontecristo · 02-13-2023, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

What's up with the crazy logo fractor pricing on JRod??? Other players I'm tracking have the same cards going for roughly the level of a flagship rainbow foil... yet JRod these are going for 10x that price.

Which is more likely?
-- other players come up to JRod's level
-- JRod falls to the level of other players
-- JRod somehow stays unique and is the one oddly priced player
-- other?

It was an SP

towerymt · 02-13-2023, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by towerymt

Grades popped this morning, PSA-9. Best possible outcome.

Dimple above his head:

The blob on the dark pinstripe line of the border seems common on the issue.

Doesn't show up as obvious in certain lighting. it's not a tangible surface defect or rough spot. Just a flaw in the glass, so to speak.

If you're looking to buy one raw to grade, GOOD LUCK! I got my one card from this set and I'm done.

Navigating all the possible ACTUAL damage these could sustain, and having to go through ebay authentication, plus all the hidden flaws they could have. Gems will be tough.

ThoseBackPages · 02-13-2023, 02:07 PM

whats wrong with a PSA 9?

zworykin · 02-13-2023, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

whats wrong with a PSA 9?

Depends. Could be the centering, could be a slight ding on a corner or along an edge. Could even be a minor surface issue.

That's what you meant, right?

eastbayak · 02-13-2023, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

whats wrong with a PSA 9?

Absolutely nothing.

SaltyCracker · 02-13-2023, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by zworykin

Depends. Could be the centering, could be a slight ding on a corner or along an edge. Could even be a minor surface issue.

That's what you meant, right?

That’s never the problem. It’s always the grader is having a bad day or pop control.

towerymt · 02-13-2023, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

whats wrong with a PSA 9?

Nothing! I thought this might get an eight

towerymt · 02-13-2023, 02:19 PM

No crying here

zworykin · 02-13-2023, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by towerymt

No crying here

Oof. Maybe I should dig out my stash and submit some of the refractors, at least...

MiamiMarlinsFan · 02-13-2023, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyCracker

That’s never the problem. It’s always the grader is having a bad day or pop control.

The “grader had a bad” thing always cracks me up. I guess the thinking is that a grader in a bad mood is harsher on grades… to make other people as unhappy as they are? And a grader in a good mood just waves the Magic 10 Gem Mint Wand around everywhere to spread happiness amongst collectors? A lot of us here have bad mood days and are still able to perform our jobs.

Bcr · 02-13-2023, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

The “grader had a bad” thing always cracks me up. I guess the thinking is that a grader in a bad mood is harsher on grades… to make other people as unhappy as they are? And a grader in a good mood just waves the Magic 10 Gem Mint Wand around everywhere to spread happiness amongst collectors? A lot of us here have bad mood days and are still able to perform our jobs.

It probably doesn't happen as much as people think but I'm sure it happens to some extent. Nobody is 100% perfect at their job.

Alternatively, would it kill graders to provide an explanation?

pewe · 02-13-2023, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ObanMontecristo

It was an SP

It has a shorter print run relative to other logo fractor cards? I thought it was a normal card in the base set?

I confess I didn't watch the facts around this card very closely though

eastbayak · 02-13-2023, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

It has a shorter print run relative to other logo fractor cards? I thought it was a normal card in the base set?

I confess I didn't watch the facts around this card very closely though

It's a base image variation (though there's no base LF version of the card).

The print-run is estimated to be in the low 200s. If I remember correctly, BO statisticians said somewhere in the 220-240 range.

The recent price rise caught me by surprise too. It was in the $700-$1000 range for quite some time.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 02-13-2023, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bcr

It probably doesn't happen as much as people think but I'm sure it happens to some extent. Nobody is 100% perfect at their job.

Alternatively, would it kill graders to provide an explanation?

That would be great! CGC does it for comics. Just makes sense.

ObanMontecristo · 02-13-2023, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bcr

It probably doesn't happen as much as people think but I'm sure it happens to some extent. Nobody is 100% perfect at their job.

Alternatively, would it kill graders to provide an explanation?

Most other grading companies do, by providing subgrades that break down surface, centering, corners and edges.

And yet people swear by using PSA, which provides no explanation whatsoever- and then those people complain about not understanding why every card isn’t a 10-Gem Mint.

rfgilles · 02-13-2023, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bcr

It probably doesn't happen as much as people think but I'm sure it happens to some extent. Nobody is 100% perfect at their job.

Alternatively, would it kill graders to provide an explanation?

https://my.taggrading.com/card/V7052373

If you provide an explanation, then the whole "resubmitting" cottage industry takes a hit.

ThoseBackPages · 02-13-2023, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by zworykin

Depends. Could be the centering, could be a slight ding on a corner or along an edge. Could even be a minor surface issue.

That's what you meant, right?

you know it isnt. lol

people need to stop being anal with their cards.

Mint State is perfectly fine for cards, especially something that was made post-pandemic.

eastbayak · 02-13-2023, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

you know it isnt. lol

people need to stop being anal with their cards.

Mint State is perfectly fine for cards, especially something that was made post-pandemic.

Hahaha, that's the only sad part about the post-pandemic "collecting" world.

People being overly concerned about a card's grade than the actual card itself (shoot, same individuals would probably take a dinged up card if you just placed it in a Gem-Mint 10 slab).

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pewe Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 26,641	What's up with the crazy logo fractor pricing on JRod??? Other players I'm tracking have the same cards going for roughly the level of a flagship rainbow foil... yet JRod these are going for 10x that price. Which is more likely? -- other players come up to JRod's level -- JRod falls to the level of other players -- JRod somehow stays unique and is the one oddly priced player -- other?