✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹ - Page 1209

SaveMeTheGum · 08-06-2025, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rage

Average Joe run of the mill collection?

I'll have some of whatever you are smoking

6 years ago you could have bought those 3 cards for under $20k. Total.

NYBBFAN · 08-06-2025, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBBFAN

I like that Ohtani is still dealing and belting HRs just like he did on the Angels. Except now, his team wins.

Another Tungsten Arm O’Doyle day.

Rage · 08-06-2025, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

6 years ago you could have bought those 3 cards for under $20k. Total.

I didn't realize the average Joe baseball card collection was over $20,000 in 2019, I guess I'm one of the poors I keep hearing about

Rage · 08-06-2025, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBBFAN

Another Tungsten Arm O’Doyle day.

Ohtani having some PTSD flashbacks

SaveMeTheGum · 08-06-2025, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rage

I didn't realize the average Joe baseball card collection was over $20,000 in 2019, I guess I'm one of the poors I keep hearing about

Depends how many Zion's you owned...

Trueblue · 08-06-2025, 06:11 PM

Talking about the cost of Shohei cards before his MLB breakout is equivalent to someone making the argument that NVDA was 1/15 the price 5 years ago.

al3xmac10 · 08-06-2025, 06:35 PM

wait, this is mind-boggling...
who are the other 6 who has 1,000 hits on the plate and 500 strikeouts on the mound???

Trueblue · 08-06-2025, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by al3xmac10

wait, this is mind-boggling...
who are the other 6 who has 1,000 hits on the plate and 500 strikeouts on the mound???

They included negro league stats a while ago and there were several TWP players (or position changes) in that league. Some very talented players that never got the fame or recognition.

boxbuster7 · 08-06-2025, 06:54 PM

I would be curious as to the names of the other six players

SaveMeTheGum · 08-06-2025, 07:20 PM

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I would be curious as to the names of the other six players

I can't find any. Ruth didn't do it. Paige didn't do it. Spahn didn't do it. Bullet Rogen didn't do it. Bob Caruthers didn't do it. Jose Mendez didn't do it.

Not sure where that stat came from.

boxbuster7 · 08-06-2025, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

I can't find any. Ruth didn't do it. Paige didn't do it. Spahn didn't do it. Bullet Rogen didn't do it. Bob Caruthers didn't do it. Jose Mendez didn't do it.

Not sure where that stat came from.

lol...

zworykin · 08-06-2025, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

I can't find any. Ruth didn't do it. Paige didn't do it. Spahn didn't do it. Bullet Rogen didn't do it. Bob Caruthers didn't do it. Jose Mendez didn't do it.

Not sure where that stat came from.

According to Elias/official MLB stats, Ruth had 501 Ks. But I'm pretty sure they're the only two.

hammertime · 08-06-2025, 07:55 PM

Not Cy Young or Walter Johnson, but I guess the 500 Ks is the easy part so they may not be household names. Definitely have to be old time dudes that pitched (and therefore batted) every few days.

SaveMeTheGum · 08-06-2025, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by zworykin

According to Elias/official MLB stats, Ruth had 501 Ks. But I'm pretty sure they're the only two.

That's odd. Fangraphs and baseball reference both have him at 488

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Originally Posted by hammertime

Not Cy Young or Walter Johnson, but I guess the 500 Ks is the easy part so they may not be household names. Definitely have to be old time dudes that pitched (and therefore batted) every few days.

500 K's isn't so easy for for some of those old-timers. And the guys who did pitch enough to get it didn't bat enough to get to 1000. Most hitting stats for primary pitchers have Walter Johnson having them most hits at less than 600.

ThoseBackPages · 08-06-2025, 08:15 PM

what a great game!

Topps NOW!!!!!!!

imbluestreak23 · 08-06-2025, 08:35 PM

It’s okay to refer to GOATANI as the goat. It’s okay, nobody will be mad at you

Cowboy85 · 08-06-2025, 08:50 PM

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ThoseBackPages · 08-06-2025, 09:08 PM

LOVE IT!

i am a HFA fan

ScooterD · 08-06-2025, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

I can't find any. Ruth didn't do it. Paige didn't do it. Spahn didn't do it. Bullet Rogen didn't do it. Bob Caruthers didn't do it. Jose Mendez didn't do it.

Not sure where that stat came from.

John Montgomery Ward - 2,100+ hits at the plate and 921 Ks on the mound.

He also won 47 games as a pitcher his second season (2.15 ERA) and had 111 SBs as a position player 9 years later.

Baseball has changed a ton in the 150 years between their careers, but Sho has a lot of work to do to pass most of Ward’s career stats other than HRs

livfreely · 08-06-2025, 11:01 PM

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John Montgomery Ward - 2,100+ hits at the plate and 921 Ks on the mound.

He also won 47 games as a pitcher his second season (2.15 ERA) and had 111 SBs as a position player 9 years later.

Baseball has changed a ton in the 150 years between their careers, but Sho has a lot of work to do to pass most of Ward’s career stats other than HRs

Good ole JMW! Those were the days….lol I wonder what talent was back in the 1890’s lol.

Anybody have his RPA?

Why is this guy not referred to as the GOAT?

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hermanotarjeta · 08-06-2025, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rage

Average Joe run of the mill collection?

I'll have some of whatever you are smoking

Half of the people who responded to the net worth thread are millionaires.

I’ll bet that most of them were millionaires six years ago as well, and you didn’t need to be a millionaire to own those cards in 2019. Not even close to it.

Twalk1975 · 08-06-2025, 11:58 PM

Dug up this picture that I think I took in the spring of '21, maybe '22. Sadly, no prices. At the time, I think I was more shocked by all the black label Acunas than I was by the red and gold Ohtanis.

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jackwesq · 08-07-2025, 01:25 AM

In addition to John Ward mentioned above, there is also Dave Foutz who has 1253 career hits and 790 career strikeouts and Kid Gleason who has 1946 career hits and 744 career strikeouts.

SaveMeTheGum · 08-07-2025, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ScooterD

John Montgomery Ward - 2,100+ hits at the plate and 921 Ks on the mound.

He also won 47 games as a pitcher his second season (2.15 ERA) and had 111 SBs as a position player 9 years later.

Baseball has changed a ton in the 150 years between their careers, but Sho has a lot of work to do to pass most of Ward’s career stats other than HRs

My mom used to take me there to buy school clothes. I wasn't a fan of the fact that I had to get my pants from the "husky" section...

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In addition to John Ward mentioned above, there is also Dave Foutz who has 1253 career hits and 790 career strikeouts and Kid Gleason who has 1946 career hits and 744 career strikeouts.

Great work fellas!

seanrs1 · 08-07-2025, 10:15 AM

So how is everyone feeling about Ohtani's performance so far this year? I am overall very happy with his on the field performance and the fact that his cards are stable or up from last year. I was worried about him coming back as a pitcher, but not being as good as when he was with the Angels. But so far he looks to have mainly recaptured his old form on the mound.

I do have some mixed feelings though! Last year was an incredible year at the plate with a 50/50 season. Sort of little let down this year. I know the SB's would be down this year was hoping for 50/30.

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08-06-2025, 11:58 PM	#30222
Twalk1975 Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: Phoenix Posts: 886	Dug up this picture that I think I took in the spring of '21, maybe '22. Sadly, no prices. At the time, I think I was more shocked by all the black label Acunas than I was by the red and gold Ohtanis. Sent from my SM-S156V using Tapatalk

08-07-2025, 01:25 AM	#30223
jackwesq Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 38	In addition to John Ward mentioned above, there is also Dave Foutz who has 1253 career hits and 790 career strikeouts and Kid Gleason who has 1946 career hits and 744 career strikeouts.

08-07-2025, 10:15 AM	#30225
seanrs1 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,717	So how is everyone feeling about Ohtani's performance so far this year? I am overall very happy with his on the field performance and the fact that his cards are stable or up from last year. I was worried about him coming back as a pitcher, but not being as good as when he was with the Angels. But so far he looks to have mainly recaptured his old form on the mound. I do have some mixed feelings though! Last year was an incredible year at the plate with a 50/50 season. Sort of little let down this year. I know the SB's would be down this year was hoping for 50/30. __________________ PC-#1 Ohtani PC-Acuna, Soto, Tatis Jr., JRod, Vladdy Jr. Starting to collect-Judge, Betts, Trout Bag holder-#1 Wander Franco, #2 Tatis Jr.