2023 Vintage Show Off Thread!

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by aguinness

Cool focus, there are some of the all timers in those years. Are you going for one example of each HOFer or multiple? I'm with you on the slabs, I've got examples graded from all of the big four graders.

I even have some HGA slabs. When the price is right, I would even grab GMA.

I am going for as many examples as I can get. Certain cards I will never get because of the insane prices. Paying $100,000 for a Mantle is not going to happen with me. The highest I ever paid for a card is $400. I have cards that are worth way more than that, but that is just because I got them graded myself.

I dabbled in basketball and football, but I really need to focus more. Right now, 100% of my attention is on HOF baseball RC's, pre-70's baseball HOF base cards, HOF on-card autographs with MLB licenses, and getting as many different Rik Smits cards as possible.

[Svabinsky78]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

My HOF PC is going to be graded, so I am leaving them in. For right now I am concentrating on the 50's and 60's for any player in the HOF, just their regular card. I personally grade with CSG for the cost, but I buy any slab if I like the card inside. My collection would make any OCD collector feel sick to their stomach.

I also have a hodge podge of slabs......BVG, CSG, old/new PSA and SGC slabs. I just look for the nicest looking 6 or 7 with vintage....don't care if it's in a BVG slab....

I personally like to buy vintage cards (40s, 50s, 60s) already slabbed. I have some bad experiences with buying vintage raw. with trimming, sellers being lax in their opinions re: condition, you roll the dice. For example, I bought what looked like a solid 7 Early Wynn from the 51 Bowman set. When I got it though, upon closer inspection, at the right angle, it has two perfectly parallel lines, which I am assuming are some sort of print lines. Haven't submitted it for grading yet.... afraid to see how CSG will treat them....I paid about a 7 grade price...

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got this beauty in the mail today

[towerymt]

On a whim, I saw this '55 Golden Stamps PSA-1 Hank Aaron in a Probstein auction so I bought it for $51.80. I had owned a '55 Koufax once, but I didn't know a lot about the Braves issue. Had no idea what the value might be on this Aaron. Did a tiny bit of searching, saw a miscut 'AUTHENTIC' PSA slabbed Aaron auctioned recently for $41 and a few other rough ungraded copies sold for more than my max bid on this PSA-1.

I really like the centering on this compared to other examples I found. The perforations around the edge are consistent. The back obviously has all the damage, but that's fine. The front is clean, no major stains or creases.

https://ebay.com/itm/374622075983

Fits in nicely with this run of early low grade Aarons I've been collecting lately. next up is a '56. Already have a '57 PSA-2.


(links to full size scan)

[aguinness]

Originally Posted by towerymt

On a whim, I saw this '55 Golden Stamps PSA-1 Hank Aaron in a Probstein auction so I bought it for $51.80. I had owned a '55 Koufax once, but I didn't know a lot about the Braves issue. Had no idea what the value might be on this Aaron. Did a tiny bit of searching, saw a miscut 'AUTHENTIC' PSA slabbed Aaron auctioned recently for $41 and a few other rough ungraded copies sold for more than my max bid on this PSA-1.

I really like the centering on this compared to other examples I found. The perforations around the edge are consistent. The back obviously has all the damage, but that's fine. The front is clean, no major stains or creases.

https://ebay.com/itm/374622075983

Fits in nicely with this run of early low grade Aarons I've been collecting lately. next up is a '56. Already have a '57 PSA-2.

Nice pick up. It's always a great deal with a Hank Aaron like that at that price point.

[bblair_2002]

Picked this up at a show today and thought it was pretty unique for a card of this caliber:

Untitled by Brett Blair, on Flickr

Any idea if the double-print would affect the grade if I send it in? I know it'll get nicked for centering.

[irv]

Originally Posted by bblair_2002

Picked this up at a show today and thought it was pretty unique for a card of this caliber:

Untitled by Brett Blair, on Flickr

Any idea if the double-print would affect the grade if I send it in? I know it'll get nicked for centering.

For sure it will but best check to see if this is a recognized variation as it might have some value?
There is a huge variation thread at Net54 that may show/tell if it is or not, or at the very least, I am sure many would be interested in seeing it?
https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=187722

[bblair_2002]

Originally Posted by irv

For sure it will but best check to see if this is a recognized variation as it might have some value?
There is a huge variation thread at Net54 that may show/tell if it is or not, or at the very least, I am sure many would be interested in seeing it?
https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=187722

Yeah,I've thought about posting it on there too. Just haven't gotten around to it is all. It's definitely piqued my curiosity and thanks for showing me the exact thread to post it on!

[towerymt]

5(PD) or 3 is my guess. PSA Grading Standards says the PD qualifier is an optional one, but that's a major defect...but I don't know when PSA elects to use that qualifier now.

[corndog]

Originally Posted by bblair_2002

Picked this up at a show today and thought it was pretty unique for a card of this caliber:

Untitled by Brett Blair, on Flickr

Any idea if the double-print would affect the grade if I send it in? I know it'll get nicked for centering.

The likely culprit for this double image of the black ink involves changing the position of the printing cylinder blanket by either "rolling" it forward or backward and then not washing the ink off of the blanket before starting the press back up. Sometimes an imperfection or slight dimple or smash in the blanket is noticed and the most common solution is to roll the blanket forward or backward and placing the problem spot in a non-image area. It's easier to do that than to replace an expensive rubber blanket. There would have only been maybe less than 20 sheets with this image before the doubling disappeared.

[Hollywood42]

Affordable HOF RC in nice condition of one a Minnesota born all time hitter and Twins manager

[Svabinsky78]

The pitcher equivalent of McGriff.....just a hair shy of that HOF milestone.....12 Ws shy of 300. I do think that at some point, he will be elected.

$100 for this blazer....to nice to pass up

[aguinness]

Originally Posted by Svabinsky78

The pitcher equivalent of McGriff.....just a hair shy of that HOF milestone.....12 Ws shy of 300. I do think that at some point, he will be elected.

$100 for this blazer....to nice to pass up

That grader was taking his/her job too seriously that day. Gorgeous 7.

Agreed on Tommy - with Kaat's election and the fact that Tommy John was a pioneer as the first subject of the surgery that bears his name (with much success after), I think he'll be in. Perhaps as soon as the next committee ballot he shows up on.

[Svabinsky78]

Originally Posted by aguinness

That grader was taking his/her job too seriously that day. Gorgeous 7.

Agreed on Tommy - with Kaat's election and the fact that Tommy John was a pioneer as the first subject of the surgery that bears his name (with much success after), I think he'll be in. Perhaps as soon as the next committee ballot he shows up on.

Really curious about the next old timer committee, whatever it's called. I believe that they will convene in 2025. Next year are the managers, executives. Some gents I'd like to see make it are TJ, Tiant, Garvey, Allen.

[aguinness]

Originally Posted by Svabinsky78

Really curious about the next old timer committee, whatever it's called. I believe that they will convene in 2025. Next year are the managers, executives. Some gents I'd like to see make it are TJ, Tiant, Garvey, Allen.

Yes, this winter is managers, etc. for the 2024 induction. Here's a great site on the HOF and candidates: https://www.cooperstowncred.com/index/
If you scroll down, you can see profiles on some of the upcoming candidates and the different committees. Tommy John will be POSSIBLY on the ballot in late 2024 for induction in 2025.
That's a big POSSIBLY, too, for a number of reasons. First off is they've changed the format so many times that it's tough to tell if the next few years will play out as anticipated. Second, it's clear from this past year's era ballot that the 10 players chosen indicated a preferred candidate to make it, as the straight odds of getting 75 percent is challenging.
The whole era system is frustrating, especially on some players that have great public support. Lou Whitaker comes to mind, who appeared on one era ballot and could have been elected in the same year as Trammell. Will he even be on the ballot for possible induction in 2026? Who knows? And there are so many players of the 1980-2010 era that really need a second look (not counting steroid guys). As the ballots seem to be tailored to try and get one (maybe two) candidates some strong support, it could either be FOR Whitaker, or leave him off entirely in order to get better support for Dewey, Hernandez, etc.
Getting more than one in with the new era rules is going to be tough, and while I would assume Dick Allen is next in line to get in when that next ballot appears, they could just as easily leave him off for Tommy John. Or Bobby Grich. Or Tiant...

[Svabinsky78]

My first Goudey.....

1933 HOF rookie

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by Svabinsky78

My first Goudey.....

1933 HOF rookie

We got to get you hooked up with a Flickr and get you to post your images better.

I only have a few 1933 Goudey and none of the 1934. Definitely great sets! These cards have left the price point where I feel comfortable buying them. I am pausing any purchasing of vintage until I see what the market does.

[Svabinsky78]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

We got to get you hooked up with a Flickr and get you to post your images better.

I only have a few 1933 Goudey and none of the 1934. Definitely great sets! These cards have left the price point where I feel comfortable buying them. I am pausing any purchasing of vintage until I see what the market does.

I picked this one up for $550.

I thought that was a decent deal for a 90 year old HOFer rookie. Per PSA pop report, there are only 300 or so graded and there are only 31 graded higher than this one, and of the 31 graded higher, 8 have qualifiers.

I usually try to get a 7 or better but for these really old cards, I am ok with a 6. I consider a 6 a mid grade but with the pre-war cards, given the super low pop count and majority of the examples being in the authentic to 4 grade, the 5s and 6s seem like solid buys.

[aguinness]

Originally Posted by Svabinsky78

I picked this one up for $550.

I thought that was a decent deal for a 90 year old HOFer rookie. Per PSA pop report, there are only 300 or so graded and there are only 31 graded higher than this one, and of the 31 graded higher, 8 have qualifiers.

I usually try to get a 7 or better but for these really old cards, I am ok with a 6. I consider a 6 a mid grade but with the pre-war cards, given the super low pop count and majority of the examples being in the authentic to 4 grade, the 5s and 6s seem like solid buys.

That's a sweet card, nice going!

[Svabinsky78]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

We got to get you hooked up with a Flickr and get you to post your images better.

So that's how people get those nice large, crisp images embedded in the body of the post

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by Svabinsky78

So that's how people get those nice large, crisp images embedded in the body of the post

Yup! Or another image hosting site. I need to update my folders this summer. I am over 1000 slabs and it is getting impossible to show everything!

[Svabinsky78]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

Yup! Or another image hosting site. I need to update my folders this summer. I am over 1000 slabs and it is getting impossible to show everything!

Also seems like a good way to document one's collection in case, God forbid, something were to happen.

[kissmaster]

I am not real big into Baseball, But I grew up near Philly and Greg Luzinski was My Idol . So when I had a Chance to pick up his graded rookie I got it

[dboll20]

Added a few over the past few weeks - focusing on quality over quantity this year!

Untitled by Dylan Boll, on Flickr
by Dylan Boll, on Flickr
Untitled by Dylan Boll, on Flickr
Untitled by Dylan Boll, on Flickr
Untitled by Dylan Boll, on Flickr
Untitled by Dylan Boll, on Flickr

[Sluggerrr]

I've always admired the 1948 Leaf baseball cards, but the football cards look great too.