✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

they all count bro

Yes sir.


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[anusinha]

They dont ask "How?", they ask "How many?"

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Shobomb 26 - off a fan, kid crying lol

At least this time he didn't smash the kid in the face with the ball like that other time. Lol
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Dad not winning Father of the Year literally dropping the ball.

[Cardsandcoffee]

Man it’s a really nice feeling, seeing Shohei doing Shohei things. Even at one inning, that was awesome

[GabrielCards]

Shohei does need to stop swinging at bad pitches....and come on Dave Roberts - he can go more than one inning pitching already.

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

they all count bro

some count more than others bro

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

some count more than others bro

which ones?

[kipgen]

Originally Posted by GabrielCards

Shohei does need to stop swinging at bad pitches....and come on Dave Roberts - he can go more than one inning pitching already.

Shohei's never been a big contact hitter, the key is that he has enough power, hits it hard, pulls it, and lifts it enough that even if he doesn't connect all the time, when he does connect it's a big hit

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

which ones?

just saying not all regular season hr are created equal

a home run in the bottom of the ninth is better than a hr in garbage time

War accounts for that, right?

[unicron02]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

just saying not all regular season hr are created equal

a home run in the bottom of the ninth is better than a hr in garbage time

War accounts for that, right?

WAR is supposed to be context-neutral.

[Rage]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

just saying not all regular season hr are created equal

a home run in the bottom of the ninth is better than a hr in garbage time

War accounts for that, right?

You are thinking of WPA (win percentage added)

[Rage]

I just checked and he leads MLB this year in WPA with 3.7

For reference Aaron Judge's WPA this year is 2.8

Cal Raleigh in 2nd with 3.4, then Alonso with 3.0

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by unicron02

WAR is supposed to be context-neutral.

I wasn't sure - I find that interesting though - so is WPA the best stat to measure how clutch a player is?

[NYRE2PECT]

BOOM.




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[ThoseBackPages]

LOVE IT!

[eastbayak]

For anyone tracking values on the 2018 Topps S2 Ohtani Black #/67, I occasionally throw up my PSA 9 on eBay for 1-2 days (with a high price and OBO) to see what kind of offers might come in. Although I don't have any immediate plans to sell it, you never know what kind of offers will come through (and what might change your mind to sell).

Anyway, during that time, I received a $6XXX offer. Not bad for a listing of a short period.

[NYBBFAN]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

For anyone tracking values on the 2018 Topps S2 Ohtani Black #/67, I occasionally throw up my PSA 9 on eBay for 1-2 days (with a high price and OBO) to see what kind of offers might come in. Although I don't have any immediate plans to sell it, you never know what kind of offers will come through (and what might change your mind to sell).

Anyway, during that time, I received a $6XXX offer. Not bad for a listing of a short period.

That’s a solid offer. If I owned that, I wouldn’t sell it either.

I noticed that Topps Chrome autos are starting to perk up too. A PSA 10 Blue Wave /150 went for $26k best offer over this last weekend. Shows up in eBay sales data, so it seems that it was paid for.

[SleepyWill]

Originally Posted by NYBBFAN

That’s a solid offer. If I owned that, I wouldn’t sell it either.

I noticed that Topps Chrome autos are starting to perk up too. A PSA 10 Blue Wave /150 went for $26k best offer over this last weekend. Shows up in eBay sales data, so it seems that it was paid for.

Not exactly apples to apples.

An update BGS 9.5 went for $4,255 on May 26th. Looking at the card and sub-grades was certainly a steal and likely a crossover snipe.

Depending on condition of your card, 6K offer would be hard to turn down.

[NYBBFAN]

?? I don’t have any cards for sale. Just commenting on recent sales of nice Ohtani cards.

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by SleepyWill

Not exactly apples to apples.



An update BGS 9.5 went for $4,255 on May 26th. Looking at the card and sub-grades was certainly a steal and likely a crossover snipe.



Depending on condition of your card, 6K offer would be hard to turn down.

That 9.5 was a BGS "Gem Mint" special with 2-3 white corners. Definitely not a PSA crossover unless you want an 8 or 9.

US1 is no slouch but it's 2nd/3rd on the totem pole compared to S2 #700.

All that said, if you can afford to hold these cards, you should. Sho doing two-way in primetime is going to add helium to his collectibles.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by NYBBFAN

That’s a solid offer. If I owned that, I wouldn’t sell it either.

I noticed that Topps Chrome autos are starting to perk up too. A PSA 10 Blue Wave /150 went for $26k best offer over this last weekend. Shows up in eBay sales data, so it seems that it was paid for.

Originally Posted by SleepyWill

Not exactly apples to apples.

An update BGS 9.5 went for $4,255 on May 26th. Looking at the card and sub-grades was certainly a steal and likely a crossover snipe.

Depending on condition of your card, 6K offer would be hard to turn down.

It wasn't a horrible offer but it wasn't the best one I've received yet. In recent months, I received multiple cash/trade offers (best one was likely the one involving a camo /25 with the cash amount being negotiable but I ultimately passed without pursuing it further). But for a listing of 1-2 days, it was respectable (I value the card a lot more than $6k).

I know that if I listed the card for a longer period of time, more eyes would've come across the listing and a better (potentially tempting) offer would've come through.

[SleepyWill]

For those saying he's playing two roles again.

That's true, although obviously on a pitch count currently, there's additional wear/tear on him once again.

Hypothetically, if his arm blows out once again and requires a third TJ, what would that do to his market?

I'm not saying it can't go higher, but realistically, how much more would a non-10 fetch in this current market.

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by SleepyWill

For those saying he's playing two roles again.

That's true, although obviously on a pitch count currently, there's additional wear/tear on him once again.

Hypothetically, if his arm blows out once again and requires a third TJ, what would that do to his market?

I'm not saying it can't go higher, but realistically, how much more would a non-10 fetch in this current market.

We all thought $40-50K for a BCA batting blue PSA 10 was a hefty price tag until it exploded to $80K+ a month ago. High end is pretty much dry besides the same couple dozen cards being hot potatoed by flippers.

The realistic answer is that the price runway is a lot longer than you think. Whether it will materialize is another story. It's up to Sho.

Hypothetically, any active player can get injured and prices will fall. It's no more relevant to Shohei than it is to Judge or Witt. He can always "just" bat. Last I saw his prices were fine as a one-way guy. Ruth only did two-way for two years, so there's no real angle to take away from his past accomplishments.

[ThoseBackPages]

collecting breathing people is not for scared folks

[SleepyWill]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

We all thought $40-50K for a BCA batting blue PSA 10 was a hefty price tag until it exploded to $80K+ a month ago. High end is pretty much dry besides the same couple dozen cards being hot potatoed by flippers.

The realistic answer is that the price runway is a lot longer than you think. Whether it will materialize is another story. It's up to Sho.

Hypothetically, any active player can get injured and prices will fall. It's no more relevant to Shohei than it is to Judge or Witt. He can always "just" bat. Last I saw his prices were fine as a one-way guy. Ruth only did two-way for two years, so there's no real angle to take away from his past accomplishments.

That's a bit off the mark, he would be back to pitching once he healed up from surgery, so the dual threat player appeal was still there.

If he does it again, that's it. He's a DH for the rest of his career, which is fine but I could certainly see his market plateau.

What would you be asking for in trade value in this scenario? Just out of curiosity.