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[The_Reverend]

I like the top pop designation. I sent a recommendation that they give a pedigree to the first graded CSG 10 for sets. They would get lots of new cards, increasing their set registry.

[thewesdub]

Originally Posted by The_Reverend

I like the top pop designation. I sent a recommendation that they give a pedigree to the first graded CSG 10 for sets. They would get lots of new cards, increasing their set registry.

I’d be very pleased if they did that. Quite a few cards in my Dallas Stars PC would get that flag.

[kon jelly]

Just sent in a submission with 1 standard and 5 economy. They received the orders on 8/15 and the standard card is already in Quality Control/Finalized. It's for this JRod that I'm really hoping gems, but I'm expecting a 9.5:

[discodanman45]

I am putting my cards in the registry, and it is not a fun process. About 40% done and I am in the top 90 already. It is not very user friendly and cards that I have should automatically pop in sets. For instance, there is a 1965 Topps set. I have a 1965 Topps Gaylord Perry and have to request a set type. This should be automatically populated for sets like this. Does anyone else here use the registry?

[kon jelly]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

I am putting my cards in the registry, and it is not a fun process. About 40% done and I am in the top 90 already. It is not very user friendly and cards that I have should automatically pop in sets. For instance, there is a 1965 Topps set. I have a 1965 Topps Gaylord Perry and have to request a set type. This should be automatically populated for sets like this. Does anyone else here use the registry?

If there is already a set, you shouldn't request a set type. You should create your 1965 Topps Set, and then if the Gaylord Perry card isn't loaded into the system yet you have to select "Request New Slot". They're pretty backed up on loading the registry right now, so it may take a while for it to be available.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by kon jelly

If there is already a set, you shouldn't request a set type. You should create your 1965 Topps Set, and then if the Gaylord Perry card isn't loaded into the system yet you have to select "Request New Slot". They're pretty backed up on loading the registry right now, so it may take a while for it to be available.

Thanks for the advice! It takes some getting used to. I will leave my wrong requests for now and not do another request to piss them off further.

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

I am putting my cards in the registry, and it is not a fun process. About 40% done and I am in the top 90 already. It is not very user friendly and cards that I have should automatically pop in sets. For instance, there is a 1965 Topps set. I have a 1965 Topps Gaylord Perry and have to request a set type. This should be automatically populated for sets like this. Does anyone else here use the registry?

They need a lot of work on their registry. I tried to put my Kirill Kaprizov player collection in and still to this day they have yet to be added.

[mnckla22]

Originally Posted by The_Reverend

They need a lot of work on their registry. I tried to put my Kirill Kaprizov player collection in and still to this day they have yet to be added.

They froze the set and slot request for the registry awards during the month of June. Here is the latest update "We are currently working on new set requests from June 23rd".

[kon jelly]

They were on top of things before the shut down, but two months of backlog has really hurt them. Before I would request a new slot and it would usually be up in 24 hours. They'll catch up eventually.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by kon jelly

They were on top of things before the shut down, but two months of backlog has really hurt them. Before I would request a new slot and it would usually be up in 24 hours. They'll catch up eventually.

Some of this should be automated and is unacceptable from a programming standard that it isn't. It will waste a lot of time. If a card is populated into a set on the registry or a player's name, there is no reason why it shouldn't be a manual process to put everything in.

[kon jelly]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

Some of this should be automated and is unacceptable from a programming standard that it isn't. It will waste a lot of time. If a card is populated into a set on the registry or a player's name, there is no reason why it shouldn't be a manual process to put everything in.

It's the scoring that is manual. They could have every card up there with zero points, but they research each one to assign points based off of condition, rarity, and value.

[kon jelly]

On another note, my one card standard submission just popped:



!!!

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by kon jelly

On another note, my one card standard submission just popped:



!!!

Nice!!! Congrats! It looks very nice.

[TSonn]

Recent bulk just popped. Crushed it on modern and got crushed on all my 90s cards.

Decided to send in my 3 green label 10s and 2 came back PERFECT (my first ever 10 Perfects)!



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[YayNJ]

Received at CSG - 10th of August
Shipped back to me - 17th of August.

Economy.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

Received at CSG - 10th of August
Shipped back to me - 17th of August.

Economy.

Speedy!

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

Received at CSG - 10th of August
Shipped back to me - 17th of August.

Economy.

Wow! I need to send my economy to them soon.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by TSonn

Recent bulk just popped. Crushed it on modern and got crushed on all my 90s cards.

From my two bulk orders, I have observed that CSG grades the cards by heavily weighting surface, then taking centering into consideration, and then allowing corners to be graded very leniently on their scale. If your card has any surface issues, they will destroy it. They seem to be harsher than SGC/PSA in that category. However, I have seen many CSG 10's with whiting on the corners and have experienced vintage in the 7 range with corners that PSA would automatically put in the 5 to 6 range. I think that is why a lot of people get crushed on junk wax. I will only send junk wax to CSG that have great surfaces. However, this is based on grading only 130ish cards with them, so it could just be the graders I got.

[YeahBuddy]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

From my two bulk orders, I have observed that CSG grades the cards by heavily weighting surface, then taking centering into consideration, and then allowing corners to be graded very leniently on their scale. If your card has any surface issues, they will destroy it. They seem to be harsher than SGC/PSA in that category. However, I have seen many CSG 10's with whiting on the corners and have experienced vintage in the 7 range with corners that PSA would automatically put in the 5 to 6 range. I think that is why a lot of people get crushed on junk wax. I will only send junk wax to CSG that have great surfaces. However, this is based on grading only 130ish cards with them, so it could just be the graders I got.

I had one card that got overgraded in regards to surface ... everything else in my bulk i felt was pretty accurate or just ones im not sure of ... but one i know for sure shouldnt have got the grade it got ... but im not complaining , its PC. ha

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

From my two bulk orders, I have observed that CSG grades the cards by heavily weighting surface, then taking centering into consideration, and then allowing corners to be graded very leniently on their scale. If your card has any surface issues, they will destroy it. They seem to be harsher than SGC/PSA in that category. However, I have seen many CSG 10's with whiting on the corners and have experienced vintage in the 7 range with corners that PSA would automatically put in the 5 to 6 range. I think that is why a lot of people get crushed on junk wax. I will only send junk wax to CSG that have great surfaces. However, this is based on grading only 130ish cards with them, so it could just be the graders I got.

Your scenario sounds like they are relying on the computer scans more so than humans. Surface and centering are probably what computer assisted could do best. It might also explain them keep throughput up. All pure speculation of course.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Your scenario sounds like they are relying on the computer scans more so than humans. Surface and centering are probably what computer assisted could do best. It might also explain them keep throughput up. All pure speculation of course.

I think CSG may be more computer assisted than people think. I am thinking this may be the case as well. My biggest issue is just the 1975 George Brett. According to their rubric, the highest it should have scored should have been a 6.5 with a dinged corner. I personally think it should have been a 6 max. CSG is grading vintage like 2020 SGC, before SGC got more technical with grades. Another card I had an issue with was my 1963 Mays. It got a 2.5 and it had a slight crease that went edge to edge of the card. That alone makes the 2.5 a higher grade than the rubric. "A card graded Good Plus may have heavier creasing, but the creasing does not travel across the surface from edge to edge."

My order wasn't insanely high, but when the majority of your cards grade higher than expected, it causes some concern.

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

I think CSG may be more computer assisted than people think. I am thinking this may be the case as well. My biggest issue is just the 1975 George Brett. According to their rubric, the highest it should have scored should have been a 6.5 with a dinged corner. I personally think it should have been a 6 max. CSG is grading vintage like 2020 SGC, before SGC got more technical with grades. Another card I had an issue with was my 1963 Mays. It got a 2.5 and it had a slight crease that went edge to edge of the card. That alone makes the 2.5 a higher grade than the rubric. "A card graded Good Plus may have heavier creasing, but the creasing does not travel across the surface from edge to edge."

My order wasn't insanely high, but when the majority of your cards grade higher than expected, it causes some concern.

Glad you said this because most people say it is about grading fair, when most simply want the highest grade, 10, regardless if it is over graded. I have yet to have an over grade to that extent, but I have had the red and white company say I had trimmed a card and I knew that was not true.

[thewesdub]

The 5 card submission I sent to Cade's was returned to me last Wednesday. I assume they just had a lot of orders to process.

Door to door with Cade's using the bulk service was about 1.5 months. That's likely much slower than the returns others are seeing by submitting directly.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by The_Reverend

Glad you said this because most people say it is about grading fair, when most simply want the highest grade, 10, regardless if it is over graded. I have yet to have an over grade to that extent, but I have had the red and white company say I had trimmed a card and I knew that was not true.

I am not into the hobby for money. It is not my job or source of income. I can be more honest than most people that treat cards as a job or as an investment. There are faults with every grading company, but I enjoy grading and the thrill of searching for raw cards. This is why I picked CSG, $10.80 per card was a great deal and gave me lots of entertainment for my PC.

[PunsRTonsOfFun]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

I think that is why a lot of people get crushed on junk wax. I will only send junk wax to CSG that have great surfaces. However, this is based on grading only 130ish cards with them, so it could just be the graders I got.

I've graded about 120 cards with CSG and can confirm your opinion regarding junk wax. As an experiment, I cracked some SGC 9.5s Bo Jacksons (86 Topps, 87 Donruss, 91 Score) and sent them to CSG. All of them came back 8.5 and I actually agree with SGC. Don't send 80s and early 90s cards to CSG.