Patrick Mahomes Prices

[clocsta2323]

Originally Posted by mma138

still looking for a optic rookie are the mega boxes a good shot at one ?

is this a bit?

[OneSickDegen]

Originally Posted by Earlsnake07

Big game and I have no doubt KC will be pulling out all the stops

Our secondary is easily exploitable by even a middling QB and we have zero edge rush. We blitzed all night vs raiders and it was largely ineffective.

I don't expect that to change with Allen firing missiles. Those guys are the class of the NFL unless otherwise noted. 2019 was a long time ago

[MyckKabongo]

538 has it as a 50/50 game. Sounds about right to me. On the road against quality opponents, the Bills have looked beatable.

The Chiefs are every bit as fired up as the Bills fir this one. Mahomes wants that MVP trophy (and yes, I'll admit it the staff calls goal line passes to help him get it). Theyve endured 8 months of the media saying the Bills are the better team. They wont lack for motivation.

The Chiefs defense aren't world beaters but they have very consistently delivered in big moments. Getting McDuffie back woukd be big for them

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by mma138

still looking for a optic rookie are the mega boxes a good shot at one ?

If it's the megas with the red/yellow parallels you've got a 1 in 10 chance of pulling a Patty red/yellow (which is my favorite non-numbered Optic parallel because of the KC color match).

[gottagitdemjs]

It was pretty evident that we were overlooking the Raiders toward the Bills game this week. IMO, it was pretty easy to tell. Andy didn't open up the playbook like he did with the Bucs. The defense was just going through the motions until the Roughing the Passer penalty. If you want my honest opinion, I think we only won this game because the referees made that absolutely awful call. It lit a fire under both sides of the ball, the coaches, and the fans; and added the right amount of makeup calls from the refs to basically bury the Raiders. The Raiders coach (McDaniels) also helped the Chiefs out with his asinine decisions toward the end. I don't know if he got desperate for a win or just panicked when things fell apart (probably a little of both). I think we'll probably beat them soundly later this year in Vegas like we have in the 2nd meetings with them in recent years.

As for the Bills beating them is going to be a tough chore. To say they want revenge is putting it lightly. Thankfully the game is at Arrowhead. We'll need to get McDuffie back and will definitely need to come out focused like we were in the Bucs game to have any chance of winning or it could end up an 18 point debacle like last year.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by gottagitdemjs

It was pretty evident that we were overlooking the Raiders toward the Bills game this week. IMO, it was pretty easy to tell. Andy didn't open up the playbook like he did with the Bucs. The defense was just going through the motions until the Roughing the Passer penalty. If you want my honest opinion, I think we only won this game because the referees made that absolutely awful call. It lit a fire under both sides of the ball, the coaches, and the fans; and added the right amount of makeup calls from the refs to basically bury the Raiders. The Raiders coach (McDaniels) also helped the Chiefs out with his asinine decisions toward the end. I don't know if he got desperate for a win or just panicked when things fell apart (probably a little of both). I think we'll probably beat them soundly later this year in Vegas like we have in the 2nd meetings with them in recent years.

As for the Bills beating them is going to be a tough chore. To say they want revenge is putting it lightly. Thankfully the game is at Arrowhead. We'll need to get McDuffie back and will definitely need to come out focused like we were in the Bucs game to have any chance of winning or it could end up an 18 point debacle like last year.

That call definitely lit a fire but if the call on the field was correct, KC gets the ball on their own 42 with a little over 1 minute left on the clock and the score at 17-7. Likely they get a TD to make it 17-14 or at worst a FG which would make it 17-10 - both are much better than going into the half down 20-10 with the bad call.

Reid opened the playbook before the bad call - I think they roll to an easier win if the call is correct on the field.

[imbluestreak23]

Dude, we need a Travis Kelce/Patty Cake/Andy BBQ Reid triple auto

[OneSickDegen]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

Dude, we need a Travis Kelce/Patty Cake/Andy BBQ Reid triple auto

True juan of juan with BBQ stain on Andy's Hawaiian shirt game worn relic obvs

[tjforce]

Love that this week is a normal Sunday afternoon game.

Primetime games are fine, but 3 out of 5 is a bit of overkill. Enjoy the Sunday afternoon stuff as well

[Earlsnake07]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Love that this week is a normal Sunday afternoon game.

Primetime games are fine, but 3 out of 5 is a bit of overkill. Enjoy the Sunday afternoon stuff as well

Absolutely agree.....5:20 alarm after prime time games really suck.

[gottagitdemjs]

yeah, my family and I like to meet at a bar for noon games, but the Chiefs don't have another one for like 2 months. The cross we bear for being must see TV I guess.

[OneSickDegen]

Not to brag, but Pacific time is the optimal NFL time zone, boys.

[Rabs]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Love that this week is a normal Sunday afternoon game.

Primetime games are fine, but 3 out of 5 is a bit of overkill. Enjoy the Sunday afternoon stuff as well

I'm much rather see the Chiefs in primetime than the Broncos which we are getting again...

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by Rabs

I'm much rather see the Chiefs in primetime than the Broncos which we are getting again...

Anybody but the Broncos.

But it's nice to get afternoon games sometime.

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by OneSickDegen

Not to brag, but Pacific time is the optimal NFL time zone, boys.

Ewwwwww. No thanks. Games starting at 10 am. Pass

[HBMC]

Originally Posted by OneSickDegen

Our secondary is easily exploitable by even a middling QB and we have zero edge rush. We blitzed all night vs raiders and it was largely ineffective.

I don't expect that to change with Allen firing missiles. Those guys are the class of the NFL unless otherwise noted. 2019 was a long time ago

Who did anything in the passing game outside of Adams catching prayer balls?

124 yards for Adams on extremely difficult to complete plays, 117 yards for 16 other catches amongst 6 other targets. Jacobs grinding out a huge rushing total was more troubling and it may be an outlier due to the Raiders' blocking with two extra large guys out there.

Hunter Renfroe didn't really do all that much, the Raiders did a lot of max protect after the Chiefs got that early sack. Most of their runs were with unbalanced lines with a Fullback. Buffalo doesn't have a Running Back like Jacobs or the willingness to actually run the ball like that.

I wouldn't be too worried IMO. It may come down to who makes the least mistakes like most of these games do.

Buffalo has the ability to exploit weak OL's but has struggled against two of the teams with a pulse on their schedule (Baltimore and Miami, where they made a ton of mistakes to lose). Buffalo is a good team no doubt, but the odds that they're going to run the Chiefs out of Arrowhead is low.

[mma138]

Originally Posted by TSonn

If it's the megas with the red/yellow parallels you've got a 1 in 10 chance of pulling a Patty red/yellow (which is my favorite non-numbered Optic parallel because of the KC color match).

yes i got 4 , about to open now . i would be happy with just the base .......

[mma138]

ok so second box in i got the base and red/yellow . made the stupid mistake of opening the last 2 which yielded nothing special . from what i have seen on youtube , if you get kareem hunt , mahomes is also in the box and you get the base and the yellow ....wickid happy !

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by mma138

ok so second box in i got the base and red/yellow . made the stupid mistake of opening the last 2 which yielded nothing special . from what i have seen on youtube , if you get kareem hunt , mahomes is also in the box and you get the base and the yellow ....wickid happy !

Congrats! A bunch of us got cases of that stuff from BO during some sort of special (I want to say Thanksgiving?) it was definitely a fun rip.

[mma138]

should i save up for a hobby box ? i never opened one ? would the odds be against me to get a nice mahomes ? should i just be content with the base and red and yellow ?

[dantheman514]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Congrats! A bunch of us got cases of that stuff from BO during some sort of special (I want to say Thanksgiving?) it was definitely a fun rip.

It must have been an early Black Friday because my order date was November 1st, 2019. The 20-box lot was $599.95 with free shipping, and this was before they collected tax. Many people received a sealed case (myself included) instead of 20 loose boxes. I still have my case.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by mma138

ok so second box in i got the base and red/yellow . made the stupid mistake of opening the last 2 which yielded nothing special . from what i have seen on youtube , if you get kareem hunt , mahomes is also in the box and you get the base and the yellow ....wickid happy !

Nice - congrats! There's a chance to hit numbered stuff in the megas (oranges and aquas I think) so ripping the final two wasn't a terrible idea. I'd say you beat the odds and got a bonus base RR too!

When I learned it was a 1:10 chance to hit a red/yellow Patty I bought 1 mega from ebay for $50 and hit it in my first pack. It was awesome. The red/yellows have a pretty high PR but the color match should always make them pretty valuable - kinda like Luka blue velocities.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by mma138

should i save up for a hobby box ? i never opened one ? would the odds be against me to get a nice mahomes ? should i just be content with the base and red and yellow ?

Just be content with the red/yellow and base imo.

Go watch some 2017 optic hobby case breaks on YouTube to see how difficult it is to pull a decent Mahomes.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Ewwwwww. No thanks. Games starting at 10 am. Pass

Long time East Coaster who moved to Central, then West:

10AM NFL start times are the best.

I wake up around 8:30, eat breakfast, make the kid breakfast, walk the dog, one final look at the fantasy roster, then it's off to the man cave to watch 2 screens of football + one of fantasy scores to start the day. Best part is, I can watch both slates of games and be finished by 5 PM, with plenty of time to enjoy my evening, go for a bike ride, go out to/make dinner, etc. And If I want to skip the afternoon game, I'm done by 1. Even the night games end at a reasonable hour so that I can still have a bit of my Sunday night.

It's the best.

[BosPats1980]

Well just rub it our faces I guess

Originally Posted by tjforce

Long time East Coaster who moved to Central, then West:

10AM NFL start times are the best.

I wake up around 8:30, eat breakfast, make the kid breakfast, walk the dog, one final look at the fantasy roster, then it's off to the man cave to watch 2 screens of football + one of fantasy scores to start the day. Best part is, I can watch both slates of games and be finished by 5 PM, with plenty of time to enjoy my evening, go for a bike ride, go out to/make dinner, etc. And If I want to skip the afternoon game, I'm done by 1. Even the night games end at a reasonable hour so that I can still have a bit of my Sunday night.

It's the best.